Wow...I actually finished it!!! - Page 2

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-10-2002, 11:25 AM

Like you X^X, I have read bits and pieces of the HoMe. Morgoth's Ring is great so far. Have you read the Athrabeth? It is my favorite of that book. I also love the Laws and Customes of the Eldar. Very informative. Unfinished Tales is also a good one. It elaborates on stories that have all ready been told in the Silmarillion.

bropous · 01-10-2002, 02:47 PM

Renille, I've read your other posts, and you're anything but stupid.

Thanks, emplynx, and thanks for posting the link [I like the new title too!], and in the spirit of full disclosure, EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO is an abbreviation for:

"Extremely insightful and deeply reflective individual of rare character and quality who shares a deep and abiding knowledge of literary masterworks of extreme detail and delightful creativity, without whom the incredible works of a tremendously talented Oxford professor would fade into obscurity"

This was my answer as to what we Tolkien fans should be called in response to another thread [in plural form, however]...and the Site Gods apparently liked it!

Who said administrators and moderators had no sense of humor...

emplynx · 01-10-2002, 06:27 PM

Administrators and moderators have no sense of humor...

Nariel Starfire · 01-10-2002, 07:32 PM

It was really stuffed full of, well, stuff! I love the elements of Quenya and Sindarin names part. GREAT!

X^X · 01-10-2002, 09:02 PM

No, Sis Golden Hair, I am not familiar with the Athrabeth. Is that part of, or included within the pages of Morgoth's Ring? Or is it another book alltogether? Ill be sure to read that right after the Silmarillian if I can get my hands on it! I have a copy of Morgoth's Ring laying about someplace, I just have to find it. I think.
Thanks

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-10-2002, 09:41 PM

Yes X^X it is within the pages of Morgoth's Ring. Quite a bueatiful, but sad story.

X^X · 01-10-2002, 09:46 PM

Great! That is exactly what I am looking for! Much thanks for the info

bropous · 01-11-2002, 01:50 AM

A hearty "welcome to the Moot" from the Welcome Wagon, Nariel Starshine!

markedel · 01-29-2002, 12:03 AM

If Lotr is a bittersweet epic, the silmarillion is high tragedy.

HoME is an essay source epic. Though I haven't read the lays-which are supposed to be fine poetry.

Ñólendil · 01-29-2002, 12:16 AM

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If Lotr is a bittersweet epic, the silmarillion is high tragedy.

That's a great quote! I like that.

eowyn144 · 02-24-2002, 03:51 PM

relating back 2 original post-
i've just finished reading it too!it took me ages!hate to say that i've forgotten a lot of it already but what i can remember was great.i just get a bit confused with all the similar sounding names and places.
will now continue with my tolkien reading quest and search for the unfinished tales
wish me luck!

Elbereth Gilthoniel · 02-24-2002, 04:03 PM

I wish you lack!

I read the silmarilion few mounth ago but not in english.
I want to read the unfinished tails but there arn't in the labrery (in hebreu I cant read them in english)

markedel · 02-24-2002, 11:26 PM

LOL I could imagine trying to read UT in Hebrew. A hebrew story I'd want to read! LOL

eowyn144 · 02-25-2002, 03:08 PM

i'd just like to say that i think its really cool that there are people from all over the world in here. it makes the world seem just that little bit smaller.
also- the unfinished tales in nowhere to be found!have searched my library and 3 neighbouring libraries and even checked the library computer and there are none anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
will have to reread lotr again at this rate.

Celebripaur · 02-26-2002, 02:22 AM

I think that once you've read the Sil, then go back and re-read the LotR, it gives a lot of meaning behind some of the actions that didn't make a lot of sense the first time around.

It certainly made my heart stop when re-reading LotR when Frodo offers Galadriel the One Ring in the scene at her mirror! Talk about karmic payback, she had desired the One Ring for so long and there it is, hers for the asking.

It also makes the farewell of Arwen and Elrond that much more difficult.

The Sil isn't an easy read by any stretch, but it add so much depth that it really is worth it.

Celebripaur · 02-26-2002, 11:29 AM

I think that once you've read the Sil, then go back and re-read the LotR, it gives a lot of meaning behind some of the actions that didn't make a lot of sense the first time around.

It certainly made my heart stop when re-reading LotR when Frodo offers Galadriel the One Ring in the scene at her mirror! Talk about karmic payback, she had desired the One Ring for so long and there it is, hers for the asking.

It also makes the farewell of Arwen and Elrond that much more difficult.

The Sil isn't an easy read by any stretch, but it add so much depth that it really is worth it.

Laurelyn · 02-26-2002, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Celebripaur
I think that once you've read the Sil, then go back and re-read the LotR, it gives a lot of meaning behind some of the actions that didn't make a lot of sense the first time around.

Yes, definitely!! It does indeed add much depth to LotR.

Finrod Felagund · 02-26-2002, 03:49 PM

Congrats Renille, it takes a hard-core Tolkien fan to finish the Silmarillion

Renille · 02-26-2002, 11:50 PM

You just said I was a hard-core Tolkien fan!!! Thank you so much, Finrod, that's the best compliment anyone's ever given me.

Now I should really go find where I buried UT...

eowyn144 · 02-27-2002, 02:46 PM

me too!i've never been called a hard core tolkien fan before!just "that weird girl who's always reading lotr"
it makes me fell kinda....well.....i dunno.special.
i'm off on a search of bookstores this weekend and i WILL find UT even if it kills me.

01-10-2002, 02:47 PM	#22
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Renille, I've read your other posts, and you're anything but stupid. Thanks, emplynx, and thanks for posting the link [I like the new title too!], and in the spirit of full disclosure, EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO is an abbreviation for: "Extremely insightful and deeply reflective individual of rare character and quality who shares a deep and abiding knowledge of literary masterworks of extreme detail and delightful creativity, without whom the incredible works of a tremendously talented Oxford professor would fade into obscurity" This was my answer as to what we Tolkien fans should be called in response to another thread [in plural form, however]...and the Site Gods apparently liked it! Who said administrators and moderators had no sense of humor... __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

01-10-2002, 07:32 PM	#24
Nariel Starfire Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: La La Land Posts: 309	It was really stuffed full of, well, stuff! I love the elements of Quenya and Sindarin names part. GREAT! __________________ It is the failed skydiver who leaves an impression upon the earth. "But what about the R.O.U.Ses?" Yours Truly, The Tisroc -You forgot to say "May he live forever" -That's because I don't want him to live forever! - The Horse and his Boy--C.S. Lewis

01-11-2002, 01:50 AM	#28
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	A hearty "welcome to the Moot" from the Welcome Wagon, Nariel Starshine! __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

01-29-2002, 12:03 AM	#29
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	If Lotr is a bittersweet epic, the silmarillion is high tragedy. HoME is an essay source epic. Though I haven't read the lays-which are supposed to be fine poetry. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-24-2002, 03:51 PM	#31
eowyn144 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 435	relating back 2 original post- i've just finished reading it too!it took me ages!hate to say that i've forgotten a lot of it already but what i can remember was great.i just get a bit confused with all the similar sounding names and places. will now continue with my tolkien reading quest and search for the unfinished tales wish me luck! __________________ If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe

01-10-2002, 11:25 AM	#21
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Like you X^X, I have read bits and pieces of the HoMe. Morgoth's Ring is great so far. Have you read the Athrabeth? It is my favorite of that book. I also love the Laws and Customes of the Eldar. Very informative. Unfinished Tales is also a good one. It elaborates on stories that have all ready been told in the Silmarillion.

01-10-2002, 06:27 PM	#23
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	Administrators and moderators have no sense of humor...

01-10-2002, 09:02 PM	#25
X^X Sapling Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7	No, Sis Golden Hair, I am not familiar with the Athrabeth. Is that part of, or included within the pages of Morgoth's Ring? Or is it another book alltogether? Ill be sure to read that right after the Silmarillian if I can get my hands on it! I have a copy of Morgoth's Ring laying about someplace, I just have to find it. I think. Thanks

01-10-2002, 09:41 PM	#26
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Yes X^X it is within the pages of Morgoth's Ring. Quite a bueatiful, but sad story.

01-10-2002, 09:46 PM	#27
X^X Sapling Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7	Great! That is exactly what I am looking for! Much thanks for the info

02-24-2002, 04:03 PM	#32
Elbereth Gilthoniel Enting Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: israel Posts: 80	I wish you lack! I read the silmarilion few mounth ago but not in english. I want to read the unfinished tails but there arn't in the labrery (in hebreu I cant read them in english) __________________ O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! We still remember, we who dwell In this far land beneath the trees, thy starlight on the Western Seas.

02-24-2002, 11:26 PM	#33
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	LOL I could imagine trying to read UT in Hebrew. A hebrew story I'd want to read! LOL __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-25-2002, 03:08 PM	#34
eowyn144 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 435	i'd just like to say that i think its really cool that there are people from all over the world in here. it makes the world seem just that little bit smaller. also- the unfinished tales in nowhere to be found!have searched my library and 3 neighbouring libraries and even checked the library computer and there are none anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! will have to reread lotr again at this rate. __________________ If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe

02-26-2002, 02:22 AM	#35
Celebripaur Sapling Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lancaster, Pa USA Posts: 5	I think that once you've read the Sil, then go back and re-read the LotR, it gives a lot of meaning behind some of the actions that didn't make a lot of sense the first time around. It certainly made my heart stop when re-reading LotR when Frodo offers Galadriel the One Ring in the scene at her mirror! Talk about karmic payback, she had desired the One Ring for so long and there it is, hers for the asking. It also makes the farewell of Arwen and Elrond that much more difficult. The Sil isn't an easy read by any stretch, but it add so much depth that it really is worth it.

02-26-2002, 11:29 AM	#36
Celebripaur Sapling Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lancaster, Pa USA Posts: 5	I think that once you've read the Sil, then go back and re-read the LotR, it gives a lot of meaning behind some of the actions that didn't make a lot of sense the first time around. It certainly made my heart stop when re-reading LotR when Frodo offers Galadriel the One Ring in the scene at her mirror! Talk about karmic payback, she had desired the One Ring for so long and there it is, hers for the asking. It also makes the farewell of Arwen and Elrond that much more difficult. The Sil isn't an easy read by any stretch, but it add so much depth that it really is worth it.

02-26-2002, 03:49 PM	#38
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	Congrats Renille, it takes a hard-core Tolkien fan to finish the Silmarillion __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

02-26-2002, 11:50 PM	#39
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	You just said I was a hard-core Tolkien fan!!! Thank you so much, Finrod, that's the best compliment anyone's ever given me. Now I should really go find where I buried UT... __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

02-27-2002, 02:46 PM	#40
eowyn144 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 435	me too!i've never been called a hard core tolkien fan before!just "that weird girl who's always reading lotr" it makes me fell kinda....well.....i dunno.special. i'm off on a search of bookstores this weekend and i WILL find UT even if it kills me. __________________ If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe

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