Rosie Cotton - Page 2

Ribbons · 06-30-2005, 11:17 PM

Oh good, I wasn't typing in the wrong place. About Rosie, she is my favorite character, but she's not exactly a hero. She was very practical and probubly really cheerful, so I don't think she would have died an old maid simply because Sam didn't return. She would have been sensible enough to move on, because for all she knew, Sam didn't even love her. She was more of a cute hobbit lass wondering shyly if Sam cared for her, not a devoted lover, if you ask me. But it's hard to tell, because their isn't that much information on her.

Lenya · 07-01-2005, 01:09 PM

Welcome Ribbons. It sucks to bet lost on your first day eh? Oh well, I like your theory on Rosie - about her not knowing of Sam really loves her. Maybe after a year she was starting to wonder if it wasn't just her imagination.

CrazySquirrel · 07-01-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ribbons

Oh good, I wasn't typing in the wrong place. About Rosie, she is my favorite character, but she's not exactly a hero. She was very practical and probubly really cheerful, so I don't think she would have died an old maid simply because Sam didn't return. She would have been sensible enough to move on, because for all she knew, Sam didn't even love her. She was more of a cute hobbit lass wondering shyly if Sam cared for her, not a devoted lover, if you ask me. But it's hard to tell, because their isn't that much information on her.

Welcome to the Moot, Ribbons!
I agree completely with your POV on Rosie. I can't say I care about her overmuch, but she is a nice lass, honest and faithful, not a Penelope hero.

Ribbons · 07-02-2005, 11:54 AM

I think that Rosie was really practical and cheerful, so she wouldn't have died an old maid simply because Sam didn't return. She was sensible enough to move on. She was there to give Sam something to live for, and she was really important, but she's not a epic hero. But she's still my favorite. :-)

ofthewind · 08-19-2005, 01:34 PM

actually, i think she knew nothing... her one interest (as far as i can tell) in the entire matter was sam and that was that....

Spock · 08-19-2005, 02:33 PM

Yep, I agree. When Sam returns home (at the very end) she's just glad to see him back. No questions, no tears, just happy. That's great.

Lotesse · 08-19-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spock

Yep, I agree. When Sam returns home (at the very end) she's just glad to see him back. No questions, no tears, just happy. That's great.

I know, I agree, and this quality of hers as her character in the whole scheme of things in Lord of the Rings i think is what makes her so special, so necessary a component to add to the flavour of Sam's personality as well, and so poignant & refreshing. I really like her simplicity and her pure, casual normalcy.

Elanor · 09-03-2005, 01:31 AM

I love the scene where they first meet up when Sam gets to the Cotton house. He's distressed because there's the whole Ruffian thing, and nervous about seeing her again, but he's been through Mordor and everything, and she asks him if he's been looking after Frodo all this time, why is he abandoning him just when things get dangerous? Don't have the exact quote, but it just seems the perfect let-down, after everything Sam's been through! But she's sweet, and I'm sure she loves him. How much did she know? Probably just what she heard from other Hobbits, until Sam got back. I'm sure he told her everything after they were married.

Or did he? Some of it might have been too painful for him to discuss, and he wouldn't have wanted to burden her with the scary stuff, like Shelob, or Snaga. But I'm sure he told her about the Oliphaunts, and all his friends in the Fellowship.

EarthBound · 01-20-2006, 03:22 PM

I think Rosie was the lass all those men hoped to return to from the world wars from which Tolkien himself (Thank goodness) returned.

I'm also betting Sam told most everything to Rosie, wanting to share the experience with a 'believing' and 'loving' ear. I'm sure the fella's at the pub just rolled thier eye's to most of Sam's tales...

paul · 01-22-2006, 09:02 PM

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Rosie is every women who has had to wait for her guy to come back from any war, Start with the Trojan and keep on going, She has to cope with Sam's PTSD a.k.a. (in Tolkiens day shelll shock) and carries on to be the wife opf a succesful hobbit

08-19-2005, 01:34 PM	#25
ofthewind Hobbit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Middle of Nowhere... Posts: 38	actually, i think she knew nothing... her one interest (as far as i can tell) in the entire matter was sam and that was that.... __________________ Colours of the Wind.........

08-19-2005, 02:33 PM	#26
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Yep, I agree. When Sam returns home (at the very end) she's just glad to see him back. No questions, no tears, just happy. That's great. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

09-03-2005, 01:31 AM	#28
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	I love the scene where they first meet up when Sam gets to the Cotton house. He's distressed because there's the whole Ruffian thing, and nervous about seeing her again, but he's been through Mordor and everything, and she asks him if he's been looking after Frodo all this time, why is he abandoning him just when things get dangerous? Don't have the exact quote, but it just seems the perfect let-down, after everything Sam's been through! But she's sweet, and I'm sure she loves him. How much did she know? Probably just what she heard from other Hobbits, until Sam got back. I'm sure he told her everything after they were married. Or did he? Some of it might have been too painful for him to discuss, and he wouldn't have wanted to burden her with the scary stuff, like Shelob, or Snaga. But I'm sure he told her about the Oliphaunts, and all his friends in the Fellowship. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

01-20-2006, 03:22 PM	#29
EarthBound Lady Tipple & Queen of Blessed Thistle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: I've been told it's all in my head Posts: 916	I think Rosie was the lass all those men hoped to return to from the world wars from which Tolkien himself (Thank goodness) returned. I'm also betting Sam told most everything to Rosie, wanting to share the experience with a 'believing' and 'loving' ear. I'm sure the fella's at the pub just rolled thier eye's to most of Sam's tales... __________________ Beer + Pizza = N'uff said Happy to be here The HACBR has been alerted to my postings…..Hobbits Against Constant Beer References Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Ben Franklin I want my Mooter T-Shirt!

01-22-2006, 09:02 PM	#30
paul Sapling Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 5	Rosie Cotton undefined Rosie is every women who has had to wait for her guy to come back from any war, Start with the Trojan and keep on going, She has to cope with Sam's PTSD a.k.a. (in Tolkiens day shelll shock) and carries on to be the wife opf a succesful hobbit

06-30-2005, 11:17 PM	#21
Ribbons Sapling Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6	Oh good, I wasn't typing in the wrong place. About Rosie, she is my favorite character, but she's not exactly a hero. She was very practical and probubly really cheerful, so I don't think she would have died an old maid simply because Sam didn't return. She would have been sensible enough to move on, because for all she knew, Sam didn't even love her. She was more of a cute hobbit lass wondering shyly if Sam cared for her, not a devoted lover, if you ask me. But it's hard to tell, because their isn't that much information on her.

07-01-2005, 01:09 PM	#22
Lenya Elentári Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Africa Posts: 727	Welcome Ribbons. It sucks to bet lost on your first day eh? Oh well, I like your theory on Rosie - about her not knowing of Sam really loves her. Maybe after a year she was starting to wonder if it wasn't just her imagination.

07-02-2005, 11:54 AM	#24
Ribbons Sapling Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6	I think that Rosie was really practical and cheerful, so she wouldn't have died an old maid simply because Sam didn't return. She was sensible enough to move on. She was there to give Sam something to live for, and she was really important, but she's not a epic hero. But she's still my favorite. :-)

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