Why is there no mention of...

***gdl96*** · 01-07-2004, 11:41 PM

In the movie, why is there no reference to "Nine Fingered Frodo"? I always liked that little conversation in the book and such about how Frodo would be remembered. Anybody else disapointed about this?

I have a feeling that there will at least be some mention of this in the rumored 5 hour EE DVD.

Finrod Felagund · 01-08-2004, 01:09 PM

I also ejoyed that exchange, and how then the tale was actually told, and Sam was all so excited.

**Nurvingiel** · 01-08-2004, 04:13 PM

That part was cool. Go nameless minstrel of Gondor! I guess that was just another neglected detail. No room for everything or whatever.

Dúnedain · 01-08-2004, 04:46 PM

Well if you watch the movies and then read the books right after again you really catch a lot of lines that they did use and didn't even know. I started to re-read the whole series again right after I watched all of the movies when RotK came out and I have realized that they put a ton of lines into the movie that I didn't even remember were from the book. Granted this one wasn't in it, but they did a good job with a lot of other things as far as book lines go

matthew · 01-08-2004, 04:59 PM

Speaking of omissions, is anyone other than me ready to sue pj over the disappearance of the scouring of the shire? I loved the movie, but the omission bothered me. if its not in the EE i will be realy mad!

Elf Girl · 01-08-2004, 05:09 PM

It's not in the EE. It was never shot. (It didn't bother me, I knew about it a year or so in advance so I was prepared.)

Dúnedain: We aren't discussing how great they did with all the other lines. We're discussing this particular line.

Dúnedain · 01-08-2004, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by Elf Girl
Dúnedain: We aren't discussing how great they did with all the other lines. We're discussing this particular line.

Wow you're a quick one Mr. Grinch. It's called a comment...

Aragorn_iz_cool · 01-08-2004, 08:31 PM

They had that as a song on the cartoon ROTK. Thay played it 10 million times. After hearing that, I'm glad it wasn't in the movie! (Although I do want it in the extended edition, but not as a song, as a comment or something)

**Nurvingiel** · 01-08-2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by matthew
Speaking of omissions, is anyone other than me ready to sue pj over the disappearance of the scouring of the shire? I loved the movie, but the omission bothered me. if its not in the EE i will be realy mad!

There is actually a thread about that somewhere. A lot of people were choked.

I wasn't amazingly upset over this omission, and they did include part of the story-telling theme at the end of TTT. Now I can't remember what Sam said, but I think it was along the lines of that theme.

Dúnedain, I'm almost done re-reading the series too, and I also noticed a lot of lines. I do appreciate everthing from the book that they included. Sometimes, we don't notice this in the movie because they were so natural and well-done. We do notice out of place lines or stunts because they shock and grab out attention.

I do appreciate all the book lines. I think Nine Fingered Frodo would have been a good addition to the book line line-up.

Fimbrethil · 01-08-2004, 10:40 PM

It's not in my sig anymore and I'm not sayin you should stop be angery or discussing the movie I'm jsut saying give PJ a little break after all : "If the movie had been more like the book the nwe would have been happier yes, but would we have liked it better?"

I was rather peeved about the scouring and Nine Fingered Frodo, but what got me was Merry and Pip were more or less the same size they always were. And no one even mentioned they would be remembered as the tallest hobbits ever in the Shire.

Please don't be angery about what I said above.

**Nurvingiel** · 01-09-2004, 01:27 AM

Perhaps we are to negative sometimes Fim. The fact that the movies are worth nitpicking is a credit to Jackson. I also did enjoy them very much. It's just that there are things from the book that would have been done well had they appeared in the movie, and I would have liked to see more. This is also a credit to Jackson.

Nariel · 01-09-2004, 12:37 PM

and kids, why didn't they say anything about merry and pip being bigger?

Because they didn't mention Merry and Pip drinking the entjuice, that's why.

And there wouldn't have been any point in mentioning that Merry and pip were bigger, had longer hair and hairier feet, if the viewer didn't know why that was.

But the fact that they left Saruman so open-ended was disturbing to me.

Dúnedain · 01-09-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by Nariel
and kids, why didn't they say anything about merry and pip being bigger?

Because they didn't mention Merry and Pip drinking the entjuice, that's why.

Actually they did in the Two Towers Extended Edition...

It is weird though, cuz in some scenes they are bigger than the others and in others they are the same height...

***Fat middle*** · 01-09-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by gdl96
In the movie, why is there no reference to "Nine Fingered Frodo"? I always liked that little conversation in the book and such about how Frodo would be remembered. Anybody else disapointed about this?

I have a feeling that there will at least be some mention of this in the rumored 5 hour EE DVD.

Yep. It's a pity they didn't included that line. BTW, did any of you notice if Frodo had really 9 or 10 fingers in the last scenes? When he's writing the book it seems he has them all...

Another thing I missed was a refference to Gollum's role after he's done his great jump. I think Frodo had said something before, as in the book, but I would have liked to see him or Gandalf explaining at the end since it's one of the most important points of the book.

Fimbrethil · 01-09-2004, 01:27 PM

AH...but that should be in my blooper thread. I don't know perhaps your right Nariel it would have been nice to see it but confusing to all the dumb little people who are to stuborn to read the books. Please ignore the dumb part I'm in a slightly bad mood. It happens when people who have not read the books try to explain things to you when you know you are right because you have just read that particular chapter in the book. *continues ranting* Ah, Nurvingiel yo udo have to be rasonible don't you? Thank you for not getting angery though I jsut felt the need to defend some of the better made decions by PJ.

Dúnedain · 01-09-2004, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by Fat middle
Yep. It's a pity they didn't included that line. BTW, did any of you notice if Frodo had really 9 or 10 fingers in the last scenes? When he's writing the book it seems he has them all...

I looked for it and he only had 9 fingers at the end...

***Fat middle*** · 01-09-2004, 03:29 PM

Okey, thanks.

Thorin II · 01-09-2004, 05:00 PM

Dúnedain is right. When Frodo is finishing his portion of Bilbo's book, he's missing a most of his left index finger.

jerseydevil · 01-11-2004, 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
Well if you watch the movies and then read the books right after again you really catch a lot of lines that they did use and didn't even know. I started to re-read the whole series again right after I watched all of the movies when RotK came out and I have realized that they put a ton of lines into the movie that I didn't even remember were from the book. Granted this one wasn't in it, but they did a good job with a lot of other things as far as book lines go

Wow it's great - the "writers" figured out how to cut and paste.

Too bad they couldn't cut and paste the heart and soul of Lord of the Rings. Too bad a more accomplished director who didn't just drop plot lines from the story after having them started (Saruman, Pippin and Merry growing) didn't do Lord of the Rings. The movies have so much to be desired - especially when you view them back to back.

And yes - I missed nine fihngered Frodo - not to mention the fact that not even his WHOLE finger was bitten off. How many people only wear their rings up to the first knuckle?

squinteyedsoutherner · 01-11-2004, 01:54 PM

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not to mention the fact that not even his WHOLE finger was bitten off. How many people only wear their rings up to the first knuckle?

true,

but then movie Sauron doesn't even have a hand.

01-07-2004, 11:41 PM	#1
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	Why is there no mention of... In the movie, why is there no reference to "Nine Fingered Frodo"? I always liked that little conversation in the book and such about how Frodo would be remembered. Anybody else disapointed about this? I have a feeling that there will at least be some mention of this in the rumored 5 hour EE DVD.

01-08-2004, 01:09 PM	#2
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	I also ejoyed that exchange, and how then the tale was actually told, and Sam was all so excited. __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

01-08-2004, 04:46 PM	#4
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	Well if you watch the movies and then read the books right after again you really catch a lot of lines that they did use and didn't even know. I started to re-read the whole series again right after I watched all of the movies when RotK came out and I have realized that they put a ton of lines into the movie that I didn't even remember were from the book. Granted this one wasn't in it, but they did a good job with a lot of other things as far as book lines go __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

01-08-2004, 04:59 PM	#5
matthew Enting Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 75	Speaking of omissions, is anyone other than me ready to sue pj over the disappearance of the scouring of the shire? I loved the movie, but the omission bothered me. if its not in the EE i will be realy mad! __________________ Nai anar caluva tierelyanna Flame me. Go ahead. Matthew in 2028. One by one we're bringing them back. Vote Nader. Stop the hamster eaters!!!! End global warming! Turn on the AC!!! Gadzooks! Run!

01-08-2004, 05:09 PM	#6
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	It's not in the EE. It was never shot. (It didn't bother me, I knew about it a year or so in advance so I was prepared.) Dúnedain: We aren't discussing how great they did with all the other lines. We're discussing this particular line. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

01-08-2004, 08:31 PM	#8
Aragorn_iz_cool Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 119	They had that as a song on the cartoon ROTK. Thay played it 10 million times. After hearing that, I'm glad it wasn't in the movie! (Although I do want it in the extended edition, but not as a song, as a comment or something) Last edited by Aragorn_iz_cool : 02-01-2004 at 09:17 PM.

01-08-2004, 10:40 PM	#10
Fimbrethil My microwave speaks to me Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Having conversations with my major household appliances. Posts: 937	It's not in my sig anymore and I'm not sayin you should stop be angery or discussing the movie I'm jsut saying give PJ a little break after all : "If the movie had been more like the book the nwe would have been happier yes, but would we have liked it better?" I was rather peeved about the scouring and Nine Fingered Frodo, but what got me was Merry and Pip were more or less the same size they always were. And no one even mentioned they would be remembered as the tallest hobbits ever in the Shire. Please don't be angery about what I said above. __________________ Bah, Bah black sheep have oyu any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full! One for the master, one for the dame, one for the little boy who lives down the lane! Bah, bah black sheep have you any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full. I'll be gone for a while. But never fear! "I shall return anon!"

01-09-2004, 12:37 PM	#12
Nariel Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the custody of the Knights who say "Ni!" They want a shrubbery. Posts: 365	and kids, why didn't they say anything about merry and pip being bigger? Because they didn't mention Merry and Pip drinking the entjuice, that's why. And there wouldn't have been any point in mentioning that Merry and pip were bigger, had longer hair and hairier feet, if the viewer didn't know why that was. But the fact that they left Saruman so open-ended was disturbing to me. __________________ I'M NOT A PIRATE! I'M A REDISTRIBUTION ECONOMIST! Marketing Supervisor and Everything Girl for Entmoot's "Lord of the Rings" Avatar Courtesy of "Ye Olde Avatare Shoppe" Sounds like a job for... UBERGEEK!" (special thanks to Finrod Felagund!) I try to make everyone's day a bit more surreal. Funny Error Messages... "Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted." "Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue..." "Bad Command or File Name. Good try, though." "WARNING: Keyboard Not Attached. Press F10 to Continue." "I have a spelling checker It came with my PC; It plainly marks four my revue Mistakes I cannot sea. I've run this poem threw it, I'm sure your pleased too no, Its letter perfect in it's weigh, My checker tolled me sew." -Janet Minor "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."

01-09-2004, 01:27 PM	#15
Fimbrethil My microwave speaks to me Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Having conversations with my major household appliances. Posts: 937	AH...but that should be in my blooper thread. I don't know perhaps your right Nariel it would have been nice to see it but confusing to all the dumb little people who are to stuborn to read the books. Please ignore the dumb part I'm in a slightly bad mood. It happens when people who have not read the books try to explain things to you when you know you are right because you have just read that particular chapter in the book. continues ranting Ah, Nurvingiel yo udo have to be rasonible don't you? Thank you for not getting angery though I jsut felt the need to defend some of the better made decions by PJ. __________________ Bah, Bah black sheep have oyu any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full! One for the master, one for the dame, one for the little boy who lives down the lane! Bah, bah black sheep have you any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full. I'll be gone for a while. But never fear! "I shall return anon!"

01-09-2004, 03:29 PM	#17
*Fat middle* Mootis per forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Spain Posts: 61,439	Okey, thanks. __________________ Do not be hasty. That is my motto. Now we'll have a drink and go to the Entmoot.

01-09-2004, 05:00 PM	#18
Thorin II Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 161	Dúnedain is right. When Frodo is finishing his portion of Bilbo's book, he's missing a most of his left index finger. __________________ "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

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