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Ah, yes, not in this thread. I've posted a few other places, but not in the right thread.
 Anyway, here it is officially.
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Of course, Glorfindel was in the book too... but I don't think Gimli will be cut out or anything. Maybe mocked mercilessly, but he will be on the Paths of the dead.
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02-14-2003, 11:02 PM
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 lol I know that, however so do Elrond's sons, but they aren't in the movies...
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen 
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02-15-2003, 08:57 AM
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Do we know that for certain? They turn up with the rangers and since that hasn't happened in the movies yet they wouldn't have been in it.
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02-15-2003, 09:33 AM
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they are not in the cast list of IMDB:
Cast Elijah Wood .... Frodo Baggins Billy Boyd .... Peregrin 'Pippin' Took Dominic Monaghan .... Meriadoc 'Merry' Brandybuck Sean Astin .... Samwise 'Sam' Gamgee Ian McKellen .... Gandalf Ian Holm .... Bilbo Baggins Viggo Mortensen .... Aragorn Orlando Bloom .... Legolas Greenleaf Liv Tyler .... Arwen Christopher Lee .... Saruman the White Cate Blanchett .... Galadriel John Rhys-Davies .... Gimli Bernard Hill .... Théoden Brad Dourif .... Gr*ma Wormtongue Miranda Otto .... Éowyn Karl Urban .... Éomer John Noble .... Denethor David Wenham .... Faramir Alexandra Astin .... Elanor Gamgee Sala Baker .... Sauron Wi Kuki Kaa .... Ghan-buri-Ghan Lawrence Makoare .... The Witch King of Angmar Sarah McLeod (II) .... Rosie Cotton Andy Serkis .... Gollum Bruce Spence .... The Mouth of Sauron Stephen Ure .... Gorbag Hugo Weaving .... Elrond but that alone is no proof for their missing.
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02-15-2003, 01:47 PM
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Where did you find that cast list?
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02-15-2003, 01:57 PM
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From www.imdb.com
That was my reasoning for saying there is no Elladan/Elrohir as well Thanks Lalaith
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02-15-2003, 02:12 PM
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If somebody of you had the phone number of PJ we could call and ask him. *gg*
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02-15-2003, 02:28 PM
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I was reading the Tolkien's famous "all those who wander are not lost" poem about Aragorn and the sword-that-was-broken last night. I was struck by how powerful and dramatic that poem is and then I suddenly got excited when I realized it will probably be spoken in the next movie...by Arwen when she gives the sword to Aragorn.
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02-15-2003, 03:18 PM
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I @#$% hope not.
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02-15-2003, 05:00 PM
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didnt bilbo write that poem? I hope she doesnt take that from Bilbo
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02-15-2003, 06:14 PM
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Gah! I bet your right! That two-timing little...First, she steals Glorfindel's horse, lines, and screen-time; then, she steals time which could have been spent developing the Ents, or sending Frodo into Shelob's lair, and now she'll probably finish her career with stealing Bilbo's poem, if not Eowyn's Nazgul-smiting sequence thingummy!
 What twit told PJ there was an Elf princess?
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02-15-2003, 07:21 PM
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02-15-2003, 09:00 PM
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My opinion
If you really are anticipating what is going to happen with Arwen in the Return of the King, stop first and look back to what they have already done. For instance, Arwen was only introduced in Rivendell when she was seated beside Elrond (this part being in the Fellowship of the Ring). This was the only time she was featured in the book. Now, look how much they have blown up her character! (I wish she would be blown up) Then, in the Two Towers, she wasn't featured at all, yet her part in this movie may have been longer than her part in the Fellowship. Now, considering she was on a few pages in the Return of the King after marrying Aragorn, she'll most likely take up the whole movie. That said, she'll probably jump in front of the screen, wrestle the Ring from Frodo and Gollum, and destory the Ring herself. So... what dost thou think of my theory? I'd much enjoy a private message if you will. This is but merely what I'm hypothesizing.
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Ouch... I hope not straight face. And Gwaimir, when you posted that spoiler, you were just kidding right? Uh... right??
In answer to someone's previous question, the "All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost..." poem was written by Bilbo about Aragorn. He recites in in FotR at the council of Elrond to stick up for Aragorn. (This is that part where, in the movie, Legolas is like "respect Aragorn fool!") It wouldn't make sense for Arwen to recite it, but it is possible. I don't think she will have as much screen time as many of you speculate. She was hardly in TTT, even though that much was built on nothing.
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02-16-2003, 05:29 AM
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Maybe Arwen will be safing Faramir from his father or she'll be on the boats as the beautiful sailor woman. *gg*
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She will give up her immortality to live with Aragorn, all you have to do is read the apendix in the third book.
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She will give up her immortality to live with Aragorn, all you have to do is read the apendix in the third book.
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02-26-2003, 09:30 PM
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I think they made Arwen to lovesick for my liking. She was hardly metioned in the books, except for the appendix, as Gaporli said.
Did you post twice on purpose?
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