Your thoughts on robot servants

afro-elf · 01-08-2004, 10:33 AM

If robots could be suffiencently made/programmed to do also sorts of mundane tasks but not possess true A.I. would you be adverse to owning one or having others own them.

What if they had a TRULY human appearance?

What if they were used as "pleasure toys"

Again I state that they lack true A.I. in this scenario.

Anglorfin · 01-08-2004, 11:37 AM

If it's possible then why not? That's basically what we are striving for the all technology, making our everyday lives easier.

Nariel · 01-08-2004, 12:20 PM

I don't know how to answer this question.. have to think about it more.

On the other hand... did anyone see that commercial before LOTR for the "Robotic Domestic Assistant"? I thought it was kind of scary. I thought it was a joke at first, but the website came up and freaked me out.

Ruinel · 01-08-2004, 12:42 PM

We already use machines to make our lives easier, they just don't look like you and I.

I think people tend to humanize other things, such as their pets. I think it would be a bad thing to make them look like you and I. Simply because of the humanization. Some of us spend more time already with the computer than with living people... what if this robot became our "best friend"... even though it had no concept of that phrase.

On another note... although I thought A.I. (the movie) was great, the whole Pinocchio story and all... I will not see it again. It was quite disturbing and when he was left in the forest by his 'mother' ...an eyelash fell into my eye and made my eyes water up something aweful.

LutraMage · 01-08-2004, 03:37 PM

What would be the difference between a robot without true AI and an automatic electic toaster that toasts the bread at a pre-defined time in the morning or a hoover that whizzes round the room on its own with sensors so it doesn't crash into things? We already have them.

Hasty Ent · 01-08-2004, 04:24 PM

Doesn't Asimov deal with this in a story about the relationship between a young boy and a prototype robot his father brings home?

No problems with robots whatsoever.... I'd like to have enough of them so that I never needed to do a lick of housework again!

afro-elf · 01-08-2004, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by LutraMage
What would be the difference between a robot without true AI and an automatic electic toaster that toasts the bread at a pre-defined time in the morning or a hoover that whizzes round the room on its own with sensors so it doesn't crash into things? We already have them.

I assumed A.I. assumes some sort of sentience.

katya · 01-08-2004, 07:59 PM

Sound like the story Chobits. "Persocoms" that look like pretty girls generally only with weird ears.
I don't know that I wold mind too much, though I would tend to avoid that sort of thing. I am a more "back to nature" person, and I think such widespread use of robots would make me feel a bit like a wuss who couldn't do anything. And anyway, some "mundane tasks" I find relaxing somewhat, whether or not I actually like it. It gives me a sense of purpose and accomplishment.
The concept of a true AI disturbs me a bit.

Dúnedain · 01-08-2004, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
What if they were used as "pleasure toys"

That'd be cool, then I wouldn't have to go spend all my money on someone who isn't going to put out after I wined and dined her

lol, I am so kidding

Ruinel · 01-08-2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
I assumed A.I. assumes some sort of sentience.

That was the whole point of the movie also. The journey to find his origins was more about knowing and questioning who he was.

Radagast · 01-09-2004, 01:19 PM

You cannot beat human servants. How can you have robots doing the jobs of a Butler, Cook, Hall-boy, Footman, Stablehand, Falconer etc, etc?

brownjenkins · 01-09-2004, 01:39 PM

A.I. was a great movie... one of spielberg's best (with a nod to kubrick of course)

i have nothing against it, though the implications for society might be bleak... would there be employment anymore for the unskilled worker if a robot could take over all or most of the jobs that humans do today?

Nariel · 01-09-2004, 01:41 PM

my goodness, Dunedain... I really really hope there was no truth in that whatsoever.... that's awful

Dúnedain · 01-09-2004, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Nariel
my goodness, Dunedain... I really really hope there was no truth in that whatsoever.... that's awful

lol i said i was joking

Ruinel · 01-09-2004, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
lol i said i was joking

*GASP* I hope so!

Dúnedain: *drives up to his date's house, goes to the door*
Date: *answers the door* "So, where are we going?" *walks with Dúnedain to his car*
Dúnedain: "oh, I was hoping just to the back seat of my car for some sex. Dinner and a movie tends to get so expensive. I just figure I'd get my jollies and then not even waste the gas to bring you home, since we're right here already."

*date stops walking; a long pause ensues*

Date: "cough cough ooooh... I'm coming down with something... we better not go on this date... I should go inside ... later" *runs inside and bolts the door*

Dúnedain: ???????

Dúnedain · 01-09-2004, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
*GASP* I hope so!

Dúnedain: *drives up to his date's house, goes to the door*
Date: *answers the door* "So, where are we going?" *walks with Dúnedain to his car*
Dúnedain: "oh, I was hoping just to the back seat of my car for some sex. Dinner and a movie tends to get so expensive. I just figure I'd get my jollies and then not even waste the gas to bring you home, since we're right here already."

*date stops walking; a long pause ensues*

Date: "cough cough ooooh... I'm coming down with something... we better not go on this date... I should go inside ... later" *runs inside and bolts the door*

Dúnedain: ???????

At least I save my time and money

Nariel · 01-09-2004, 02:02 PM

yeah, Dunedain... it's like a free hooker.... unless you have to rent the robots... that would be interesting... Would there be laws against that? When does a robot become human?

From the movie DARYL:

"A robot becomes human, General, when you can't tell the difference anymore."

Wayfarer · 01-09-2004, 02:39 PM

My thoughts on robot servants? Gimme!

Actually, I'm not sure whether I'd want any robot servants. Honestly, I can't think of anything I'd really need them to do.

Ruinel · 01-09-2004, 02:50 PM

I'd like them to clean my toilets.... that's just... ewwwww

Falagar · 01-09-2004, 03:24 PM

I agree with Ruinel. Making robots look like humans would make them more "human", which would not (IMHO) be a good thing. And if we lay all the work over on robot-servants, what should we do then? You have to have a bad time to appreciate the good times.

01-08-2004, 10:33 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Your thoughts on robot servants If robots could be suffiencently made/programmed to do also sorts of mundane tasks but not possess true A.I. would you be adverse to owning one or having others own them. What if they had a TRULY human appearance? What if they were used as "pleasure toys" Again I state that they lack true A.I. in this scenario. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-08-2004, 11:37 AM	#2
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	If it's possible then why not? That's basically what we are striving for the all technology, making our everyday lives easier. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

01-08-2004, 12:20 PM	#3
Nariel Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the custody of the Knights who say "Ni!" They want a shrubbery. Posts: 365	I don't know how to answer this question.. have to think about it more. On the other hand... did anyone see that commercial before LOTR for the "Robotic Domestic Assistant"? I thought it was kind of scary. I thought it was a joke at first, but the website came up and freaked me out. __________________ I'M NOT A PIRATE! I'M A REDISTRIBUTION ECONOMIST! Marketing Supervisor and Everything Girl for Entmoot's "Lord of the Rings" Avatar Courtesy of "Ye Olde Avatare Shoppe" Sounds like a job for... UBERGEEK!" (special thanks to Finrod Felagund!) I try to make everyone's day a bit more surreal. Funny Error Messages... "Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted." "Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue..." "Bad Command or File Name. Good try, though." "WARNING: Keyboard Not Attached. Press F10 to Continue." "I have a spelling checker It came with my PC; It plainly marks four my revue Mistakes I cannot sea. I've run this poem threw it, I'm sure your pleased too no, Its letter perfect in it's weigh, My checker tolled me sew." -Janet Minor "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."

01-08-2004, 03:37 PM	#5
LutraMage Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tolkien's England where the tale grew in the telling... Posts: 330	What would be the difference between a robot without true AI and an automatic electic toaster that toasts the bread at a pre-defined time in the morning or a hoover that whizzes round the room on its own with sensors so it doesn't crash into things? We already have them. Last edited by LutraMage : 01-08-2004 at 04:42 PM.

01-09-2004, 01:19 PM	#11
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	You cannot beat human servants. How can you have robots doing the jobs of a Butler, Cook, Hall-boy, Footman, Stablehand, Falconer etc, etc? __________________ Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine, And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest (The end for others sought) Watch sloth and heathen folly Bring all your hope to nought.

01-08-2004, 12:42 PM	#4
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	We already use machines to make our lives easier, they just don't look like you and I. I think people tend to humanize other things, such as their pets. I think it would be a bad thing to make them look like you and I. Simply because of the humanization. Some of us spend more time already with the computer than with living people... what if this robot became our "best friend"... even though it had no concept of that phrase. On another note... although I thought A.I. (the movie) was great, the whole Pinocchio story and all... I will not see it again. It was quite disturbing and when he was left in the forest by his 'mother' ...an eyelash fell into my eye and made my eyes water up something aweful.

01-08-2004, 04:24 PM	#6
Hasty Ent Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 516	Doesn't Asimov deal with this in a story about the relationship between a young boy and a prototype robot his father brings home? No problems with robots whatsoever.... I'd like to have enough of them so that I never needed to do a lick of housework again!

01-08-2004, 07:59 PM	#8
katya Elven Maiden Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,309	Sound like the story Chobits. "Persocoms" that look like pretty girls generally only with weird ears. I don't know that I wold mind too much, though I would tend to avoid that sort of thing. I am a more "back to nature" person, and I think such widespread use of robots would make me feel a bit like a wuss who couldn't do anything. And anyway, some "mundane tasks" I find relaxing somewhat, whether or not I actually like it. It gives me a sense of purpose and accomplishment. The concept of a true AI disturbs me a bit.

01-09-2004, 01:39 PM	#12
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	A.I. was a great movie... one of spielberg's best (with a nod to kubrick of course) i have nothing against it, though the implications for society might be bleak... would there be employment anymore for the unskilled worker if a robot could take over all or most of the jobs that humans do today? __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

01-09-2004, 01:41 PM	#13
Nariel Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the custody of the Knights who say "Ni!" They want a shrubbery. Posts: 365	my goodness, Dunedain... I really really hope there was no truth in that whatsoever.... that's awful __________________ I'M NOT A PIRATE! I'M A REDISTRIBUTION ECONOMIST! Marketing Supervisor and Everything Girl for Entmoot's "Lord of the Rings" Avatar Courtesy of "Ye Olde Avatare Shoppe" Sounds like a job for... UBERGEEK!" (special thanks to Finrod Felagund!) I try to make everyone's day a bit more surreal. Funny Error Messages... "Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted." "Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue..." "Bad Command or File Name. Good try, though." "WARNING: Keyboard Not Attached. Press F10 to Continue." "I have a spelling checker It came with my PC; It plainly marks four my revue Mistakes I cannot sea. I've run this poem threw it, I'm sure your pleased too no, Its letter perfect in it's weigh, My checker tolled me sew." -Janet Minor "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."

01-09-2004, 02:02 PM	#17
Nariel Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the custody of the Knights who say "Ni!" They want a shrubbery. Posts: 365	yeah, Dunedain... it's like a free hooker.... unless you have to rent the robots... that would be interesting... Would there be laws against that? When does a robot become human? From the movie DARYL: "A robot becomes human, General, when you can't tell the difference anymore." __________________ I'M NOT A PIRATE! I'M A REDISTRIBUTION ECONOMIST! Marketing Supervisor and Everything Girl for Entmoot's "Lord of the Rings" Avatar Courtesy of "Ye Olde Avatare Shoppe" Sounds like a job for... UBERGEEK!" (special thanks to Finrod Felagund!) I try to make everyone's day a bit more surreal. Funny Error Messages... "Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted." "Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue..." "Bad Command or File Name. Good try, though." "WARNING: Keyboard Not Attached. Press F10 to Continue." "I have a spelling checker It came with my PC; It plainly marks four my revue Mistakes I cannot sea. I've run this poem threw it, I'm sure your pleased too no, Its letter perfect in it's weigh, My checker tolled me sew." -Janet Minor "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."

01-09-2004, 02:39 PM	#18
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	My thoughts on robot servants? Gimme! Actually, I'm not sure whether I'd want any robot servants. Honestly, I can't think of anything I'd really need them to do. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-09-2004, 02:50 PM	#19
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	I'd like them to clean my toilets.... that's just... ewwwww

01-09-2004, 03:24 PM	#20
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	I agree with Ruinel. Making robots look like humans would make them more "human", which would not (IMHO) be a good thing. And if we lay all the work over on robot-servants, what should we do then? You have to have a bad time to appreciate the good times. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

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