Favorite bad guy

Eowyn, Lady of Rohan · 05-17-2003, 06:13 PM

Who is your favorite bad guy?
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I like the Witch King and the eye.
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Dreran the Green · 05-17-2003, 07:26 PM

The Mouth of Sauron. I just love that scene where he shows everyone Frodo's clothes and they all look terrified and then Gandalf insults him.

Bombadillo · 05-17-2003, 07:30 PM

Yes the Mouth of Sauron was very cool, although he did have a small part. I hope there are many songs about him. *puts on Nightfall in ME*

But I like Grima also. I can't stand Saruman, and Grima is more foolish *recalls Obi Wan's words*, but he is cool in the end and then i feel sorry for him. So he gets my sympathy vote.

Dreran the Green · 05-17-2003, 07:32 PM

Yeah, Grima was just, sorta, I don't know, misguided lets say. Oh, and don't forget the Balrog!

Falagar · 05-17-2003, 07:37 PM

Don't like any of the bad guys (unless you take Fëanor into account, but then I'm afraid I'm on the wrong forum

), if I have to mention one it would be Gollum.

Dreran the Green · 05-17-2003, 07:55 PM

You don't have to like them. They just have to be your favorite. You could always like to hate them

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-17-2003, 09:17 PM

The Mouth of Sauron.

Hasty Ent · 05-17-2003, 09:30 PM

Gollum's my favorite villain, hands down. I admire the way Tolkien made him complex, and not just a simple demon. Gollum's inner struggles, the possibility of his redemption, his simple delight in fish, the backstory of his corruption, all of these easily make him one of my favorite characters, period, not just in LotR.

Elvengirl · 05-18-2003, 09:14 AM

The Black Riders or Gollum

gimli7410 · 05-18-2003, 12:26 PM

the black riders and sauron

Finarwe · 05-18-2003, 12:42 PM

For LOTR it's Shelob.
(I like spiders

)

Other books: Melkor and maybe Sauron. (At his old days. Somehow he lost his touch in LOTR.)

From Falagar:

Quote:

unless you take Fëanor into account...

Who would do that? Fëanor is a GOOD-guy.

Lady of Rohan · 05-18-2003, 01:33 PM

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Gollum's my favorite villain, hands down. I admire the way Tolkien made him complex, and not just a simple demon. Gollum's inner struggles, the possibility of his redemption, his simple delight in fish, the backstory of his corruption, all of these easily make him one of my favorite characters, period, not just in LotR.

Dido.

I also liked the Mouth of Sauron. His way of beating-around-the-bush was what I really liked.

Feanor is evil

***azalea*** · 05-18-2003, 01:56 PM

The Black Riders/ Nazgul and Grishnakh and Ugluk!

Coney · 05-18-2003, 02:11 PM

Ted Sandyman.

Nah, it's gotta be Gollum!

Silpion · 05-18-2003, 03:26 PM

If we're not limited to choosing only from The Lord of the Rings books, then a favorite bad "guy" of mine is Glaurung the Dragon. He was a mocking and derisive big nasty. He taunts Turin . . .

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Evil have been all thy ways, son of Hurin. Thankless fosterling, outlaw, slayer of thy friend, thief of love, usurper of Nargothrond, captain foolhardy, and deserter of thy kin. As thralls thy mother and thy sister live in Dor-loomin, in misery and want. Thou art arrayed as a prince, but they go in rags; and for thee they yearn, but thou carest not for that. Glad may thy father be to learn that he hath such a son; as learn he shall.

He pushes all the buttons to make Turin seem like dirt.
Glaurung sacks Nargothrond, casts a spell on Turin (the walking disaster) and lets him go, then he throws all the orcs out of Nargothrond so that he can keep the treasure for himself, casts a forgetting spell on Nienor but lifts it so that Nienor realises that she is married to and pregnant by her own brother.

If the bad guy has to be from LOTR, then I would go with the Mouth of Sauron. He was described like he was supposed to be scary but his interaction with Gandalf turned him into a buffoon.

Radagast The Brown · 05-18-2003, 03:36 PM

Saruman. I love his eyes. Much better then Sauron's, if you ask me.

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-18-2003, 04:05 PM

You've seen Saruman and Sauron?

durin's bane · 05-18-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Hasty Ent
Gollum's my favorite villain, hands down. I admire the way Tolkien made him complex, and not just a simple demon. Gollum's inner struggles, the possibility of his redemption, his simple delight in fish, the backstory of his corruption, all of these easily make him one of my favorite characters, period, not just in LotR.

I agree completely! Gollum is so cool.

Dreran the Green · 05-18-2003, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
You've seen Saruman and Sauron?

Oh, you can still see 'em around sometimes, lurking in the woods and behind restauraunts and such

Sheeana · 05-18-2003, 06:09 PM

There's a whole thread of whether or not Feanor is evil - should pull it up sometime, it was pretty interesting.

Mine would have to be Gollum of course. I have a feeling that he would have redeemed himself if he'd had the chance. Poor guy.

edit: aha. Here it is:

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...ht=Feanor+Evil

05-17-2003, 06:13 PM	#1
Eowyn, Lady of Rohan The Evil One Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: here, on the moot Posts: 804	Favorite bad guy Who is your favorite bad guy? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I like the Witch King and the eye. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________ GO RED SOX Evanescence, Green Day, Weezer, the Click Five, Train...The best song artists and singers ever! You laugh cuz i'm different, i laugh cuz ur all the same!!!

05-17-2003, 07:26 PM	#2
Dreran the Green Lady of Legends Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missing. Reward if found. Posts: 1,083	The Mouth of Sauron. I just love that scene where he shows everyone Frodo's clothes and they all look terrified and then Gandalf insults him. __________________ The end justifies the means, thought Aziraphale. And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.* *This is not actually true. The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger demons go ice-skating down it. ~Good Omens

05-17-2003, 07:30 PM	#3
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	Yes the Mouth of Sauron was very cool, although he did have a small part. I hope there are many songs about him. puts on Nightfall in ME But I like Grima also. I can't stand Saruman, and Grima is more foolish recalls Obi Wan's words, but he is cool in the end and then i feel sorry for him. So he gets my sympathy vote. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity? Last edited by Bombadillo : 05-17-2003 at 07:34 PM.

05-17-2003, 07:32 PM	#4
Dreran the Green Lady of Legends Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missing. Reward if found. Posts: 1,083	Yeah, Grima was just, sorta, I don't know, misguided lets say. Oh, and don't forget the Balrog! __________________ The end justifies the means, thought Aziraphale. And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.* *This is not actually true. The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger demons go ice-skating down it. ~Good Omens

05-17-2003, 07:37 PM	#5
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Don't like any of the bad guys (unless you take Fëanor into account, but then I'm afraid I'm on the wrong forum ), if I have to mention one it would be Gollum. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

05-17-2003, 07:55 PM	#6
Dreran the Green Lady of Legends Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missing. Reward if found. Posts: 1,083	You don't have to like them. They just have to be your favorite. You could always like to hate them __________________ The end justifies the means, thought Aziraphale. And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.* *This is not actually true. The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger demons go ice-skating down it. ~Good Omens

05-17-2003, 09:17 PM	#7
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	The Mouth of Sauron. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

05-17-2003, 09:30 PM	#8
Hasty Ent Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 516	Gollum's my favorite villain, hands down. I admire the way Tolkien made him complex, and not just a simple demon. Gollum's inner struggles, the possibility of his redemption, his simple delight in fish, the backstory of his corruption, all of these easily make him one of my favorite characters, period, not just in LotR. __________________ Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

05-18-2003, 09:14 AM	#9
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	The Black Riders or Gollum __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

05-18-2003, 12:26 PM	#10
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05-18-2003, 01:56 PM	#13
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	The Black Riders/ Nazgul and Grishnakh and Ugluk!

05-18-2003, 02:11 PM	#14
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	Ted Sandyman. Nah, it's gotta be Gollum! __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

05-18-2003, 03:36 PM	#16
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Saruman. I love his eyes. Much better then Sauron's, if you ask me. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-18-2003, 04:05 PM	#17
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	You've seen Saruman and Sauron? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

05-18-2003, 06:09 PM	#20
Sheeana Lord of the Pants Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,382	There's a whole thread of whether or not Feanor is evil - should pull it up sometime, it was pretty interesting. Mine would have to be Gollum of course. I have a feeling that he would have redeemed himself if he'd had the chance. Poor guy. edit: aha. Here it is: http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...ht=Feanor+Evil Last edited by Sheeana : 05-18-2003 at 06:11 PM.

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