Oh no hes gone for a cheasy ending (spoilers)

Sween · 05-10-2003, 05:56 AM

Right just read a report and there seems to be a lot of this going around that saurons going to be at the black gates! this is a bit silly!

First off he doesnt need to be there! second why would he be there it totoally contradicts saurons method of managment!

what are your thoughts?

cassiopeia · 05-10-2003, 06:04 AM

Ugh, just read that at TORN. Here's the link: http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1052497889
I was groaning aloud when I read this, and my Mum wanted to know what was wrong.

I didn't realise that when Arwen said to Aragorn in the FOTR that 'you will face the same evil, and you will defeat it', that she meant Sauron, I thought she meant the Ring. I hope this isn't true...but I'm doubtful.
And Saruman getting 'spiked'? Well there's no scouring, so I still think this will be the case.

Coney · 05-10-2003, 06:36 AM

Thanks for the TORN link cass.

Yeesh, sounds a bit grim...............might as well have "Sauron" remove his helmet at the end of the fight and reveal himself as Aragorn's father

Linaewen · 05-10-2003, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coney
Thanks for the TORN link cass.

Yeesh, sounds a bit grim...............might as well have "Sauron" remove his helmet at the end of the fight and reveal himself as Aragorn's father

I wouldn't put it past PJ to try that tho.

Lalaith · 05-10-2003, 07:25 AM

I read that about Saruman. Very strange.

Ruinel · 05-10-2003, 10:43 AM

Please... please ... *gets on knees*... please, tell me that this is a joke... a very, very, very sick joke... please... I don't think I could take the strain.

*is really holding herself back, wants to scream obsenities*

Black Breathalizer · 05-10-2003, 10:59 AM

We don't know if it's hoax or not at this point. However, if it is true, I would advice against a lot of groaning and teeth nashing until we actually SEE what happens.

People freaked out about Boromir holding up the ring on a chain too from FOTR and it turned out to be a very good scene.

Have a little faith people.

Wayfarer · 05-10-2003, 11:10 AM

Oh yes, keep the faith.

Don't dare to suspect that jackson might screw up like the hack he's shown himself to be.

Ruinel · 05-10-2003, 11:18 AM

I was going to post something... but... gah!... I... I'm ... $%@... I think I'm going to cry. I dunno... *clutches books* ... how can there be such evil in the world? ...

Dreran the Green · 05-10-2003, 11:51 AM

Holy Bugger!!!! That...that...I mean....SINCE WHEN COULD SAURON TAKE PHYSICAL FORM???!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS THIS??!!!?!!!

Sween · 05-10-2003, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreran the Green
Holy Bugger!!!! That...that...I mean....SINCE WHEN COULD SAURON TAKE PHYSICAL FORM???!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS THIS??!!!?!!!

well techincally allways he allways had a physical form even in the book!

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-10-2003, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coney
Thanks for the TORN link cass.

Yeesh, sounds a bit grim...............might as well have "Sauron" remove his helmet at the end of the fight and reveal himself as Aragorn's father

Heaven above, no....

Indeed he could. If I remember correctly, his physical shape was like a tall man in a black robe.

Sween · 05-10-2003, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Heaven above, no....

Indeed he could. If I remember correctly, his physical shape was like a tall man in a black robe.

where you get that from? I though all gollum said was he may have only 4 fingers (yes there is a thumb i know but dont nitpick me) on the black hand but they are enough. WEird isnt it how he could just regrow another finger not like he was human or anything is it?

Ruinel · 05-10-2003, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coney
Thanks for the TORN link cass.

Yeesh, sounds a bit grim...............might as well have "Sauron" remove his helmet at the end of the fight and reveal himself as Aragorn's father

Maybe something like this might suffice...
http://www.spacespider.net/emo/sw5.gif

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-10-2003, 12:09 PM

I think it was somewhere in the Letters or something...

Funny emoticon, Ru.

Ruinel · 05-10-2003, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Funny emoticon, Ru.

Thanks. But I can't get the img tag to work right.

You shouldn't have to click on it to see it.

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-10-2003, 12:57 PM

Yeah, I don't think the IMG tag works outside of GM...

Celebréiel · 05-10-2003, 01:04 PM

ugh...

Im not gonna jump to anything until I see the movie....but eww...I really hope thats not true..*shudders*

Black Breathalizer · 05-10-2003, 02:16 PM

oh, I dunno....I thought the scene where Sauron attacked the last alliance of men and elves was pretty cool in FOTR.

The idea of Sauron stepping out to face Aragorn the same way he faced Elendil and Isidur centuries ago could be very dramatic--especially with Aragorn holding the reforged blade-that-was-broken. Personally, I don't see what would be so awful about it.

The reality is that Jackson needs a true "Darth Vaderish" villian to represent the evil in the conclusion to a story that is based on a good versus evil theme. With Saruman dead, the combined forces of Gondor and Rohan are going to go against...the burning eye?!?!? It seems to me logical that Sauron would be seen again in movie three. I just hadn't thought about him going head to head against Aragorn. I don't want to get too excited about it because it may be a hoax. But it sure sounds great to me.

Wayfarer · 05-10-2003, 02:31 PM

*ahem*

<Voice of Reason>
SAURON IS NOT DARTH VADER!
</Voice of Reason>

He's Palpatine, Allright? PALPATINE!!!!

And Jackson needs cheap crap because he's a worthless B-Movie director.

05-10-2003, 05:56 AM	#1
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Oh no hes gone for a cheasy ending (spoilers) Right just read a report and there seems to be a lot of this going around that saurons going to be at the black gates! this is a bit silly! First off he doesnt need to be there! second why would he be there it totoally contradicts saurons method of managment! what are your thoughts? __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

05-10-2003, 06:04 AM	#2
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	Ugh, just read that at TORN. Here's the link: http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/2/1052497889 I was groaning aloud when I read this, and my Mum wanted to know what was wrong. I didn't realise that when Arwen said to Aragorn in the FOTR that 'you will face the same evil, and you will defeat it', that she meant Sauron, I thought she meant the Ring. I hope this isn't true...but I'm doubtful. And Saruman getting 'spiked'? Well there's no scouring, so I still think this will be the case. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

05-10-2003, 06:36 AM	#3
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	Thanks for the TORN link cass. Yeesh, sounds a bit grim...............might as well have "Sauron" remove his helmet at the end of the fight and reveal himself as Aragorn's father __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

05-10-2003, 07:25 AM	#5
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I read that about Saruman. Very strange. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

05-10-2003, 11:10 AM	#8
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Oh yes, keep the faith. Don't dare to suspect that jackson might screw up like the hack he's shown himself to be. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

05-10-2003, 10:43 AM	#6
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Please... please ... gets on knees... please, tell me that this is a joke... a very, very, very sick joke... please... I don't think I could take the strain. is really holding herself back, wants to scream obsenities

05-10-2003, 10:59 AM	#7
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	We don't know if it's hoax or not at this point. However, if it is true, I would advice against a lot of groaning and teeth nashing until we actually SEE what happens. People freaked out about Boromir holding up the ring on a chain too from FOTR and it turned out to be a very good scene. Have a little faith people.

05-10-2003, 11:18 AM	#9
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	I was going to post something... but... gah!... I... I'm ... $%@... I think I'm going to cry. I dunno... clutches books ... how can there be such evil in the world? ...

05-10-2003, 11:51 AM	#10
Dreran the Green Lady of Legends Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missing. Reward if found. Posts: 1,083	Holy Bugger!!!! That...that...I mean....SINCE WHEN COULD SAURON TAKE PHYSICAL FORM???!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS THIS??!!!?!!! __________________ The end justifies the means, thought Aziraphale. And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.* *This is not actually true. The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger demons go ice-skating down it. ~Good Omens

05-10-2003, 12:09 PM	#15
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I think it was somewhere in the Letters or something... Funny emoticon, Ru. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle Last edited by Gwaimir Windgem : 05-10-2003 at 12:11 PM.

05-10-2003, 12:57 PM	#17
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Yeah, I don't think the IMG tag works outside of GM... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

05-10-2003, 01:04 PM	#18
Celebréiel Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: A house! Posts: 376	ugh... Im not gonna jump to anything until I see the movie....but eww...I really hope thats not true..shudders __________________ Peace Yeah, Your an individual...just like everyone else. http://cartalien.deviantart.com/ - Arty goodness

05-10-2003, 02:16 PM	#19
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	oh, I dunno....I thought the scene where Sauron attacked the last alliance of men and elves was pretty cool in FOTR. The idea of Sauron stepping out to face Aragorn the same way he faced Elendil and Isidur centuries ago could be very dramatic--especially with Aragorn holding the reforged blade-that-was-broken. Personally, I don't see what would be so awful about it. The reality is that Jackson needs a true "Darth Vaderish" villian to represent the evil in the conclusion to a story that is based on a good versus evil theme. With Saruman dead, the combined forces of Gondor and Rohan are going to go against...the burning eye?!?!? It seems to me logical that Sauron would be seen again in movie three. I just hadn't thought about him going head to head against Aragorn. I don't want to get too excited about it because it may be a hoax. But it sure sounds great to me.

05-10-2003, 02:31 PM	#20
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	ahem <Voice of Reason> SAURON IS NOT DARTH VADER! </Voice of Reason> He's Palpatine, Allright? PALPATINE!!!! And Jackson needs cheap crap because he's a worthless B-Movie director. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

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