Cool part of the Warg scene...

Balrog_of_Morgoth · 02-26-2003, 08:41 PM

The warg scene during the trip to Helms Deep is a touchy subject, I know. But I have to say that at the beginning, when Legolas is standing on that ridgetop picking off orcs and wargs with his bow - that is just awesome! The sound of the arrows zinging of his bow is crazy wicked. I know it is not a realistic sound, but man, does it work in the movies.

Definitely one of my favorite moments in the whole movie. I even like his super move to get on the back of the horse.

What think you guys???

Gorhiriel · 02-26-2003, 08:46 PM

Yep! Damn awesome! The slo-mo stuff was great. The swing-onto-the-back-of-the-horse move was a tab unrealistic, but looked REALLY cool.

Celebriel · 02-26-2003, 10:15 PM

I loved the Legolas-horse move. It showed the power of the Elves. The horse was not scared at all. Who says it cannot happen?

Shadowfax · 02-26-2003, 10:15 PM

Meh, I didn't particularily care for it.

Gorhiriel · 02-26-2003, 10:17 PM

*sighs* Everyone's a critic... I loved it.

Insidious Rex · 02-27-2003, 04:16 PM

But it didnt make any sense physically. It looked like he swung one way then went back against his arm the other way. It looked wrong to me. Would have been cool if he just sort of swung underneath the horse and up and over.

Artanis · 02-27-2003, 04:34 PM

I loved that horse-mounting trick, even if it smelled of CGI.

Varda Oiolosseo · 02-27-2003, 06:34 PM

I loved it!

Because it was in slow motion, the first time i saw it and he went to do it i thought he was going to get trampled and go under the horse and then i realised what he was doing and i was like "Wow!" (I'm a bit slow at noticing some things

lol!)

Balrog_of_Morgoth · 02-27-2003, 07:07 PM

I think the move looks right. The way I see it, he graps a hold, swings one way and then sort of bounces/springs from one side of the horses chest from its momentum, which gives him the boost to swing up the other way and mount it. Does that make sense? I think I just confused myself

Insidious Rex · 02-27-2003, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Balrog_of_Morgoth
I think the move looks right. The way I see it, he graps a hold, swings one way and then sort of bounces/springs from one side of the horses chest from its momentum, which gives him the boost to swing up the other way and mount it. Does that make sense? I think I just confused myself

*laugh* we will definitely have to play with the slowmo button when the DVD comes out on this one.

Elenka · 02-27-2003, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Celebriel
I loved the Legolas-horse move. It showed the power of the Elves. The horse was not scared at all. Who says it cannot happen?

That was 2,000 years of perfecting the skill, of course!

Ok. So I didn't actually like that move at all. Positively stunk of CGI. But it was still pretty cool.

Lanelf · 02-27-2003, 10:39 PM

That jump - well, it's cool, but it annoys me that I don't think it's physically possible. It just looks too unrealistic for me to like it.
But in general, the warg scene was good. Except for what they did to poor Gimli. And knocking Aragorn over the cliff - but that did let us see wet Viggo...:P
Lanelf.

Celebriel · 02-27-2003, 10:46 PM

I want to see Gimli do some great kick-orc fighting scenes. They make the others look so powerful and Gimli is just the kooky dwarf. The dwarves did not send him on the journey for nothing!

Sorry, worked up.

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-27-2003, 11:11 PM

Wasn't it Elrond who sent him?

Artanis · 02-28-2003, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by Lanelf
That jump - well, it's cool, but it annoys me that I don't think it's physically possible. It just looks too unrealistic for me to like it.

I have no problem with that. A lot of Elven skills don't make sense physically. Like walking on top of the snow without leaving footprints, and walking on rope across a stream.

Black Breathalizer · 02-28-2003, 08:52 AM

I agree with the Greatest Elven Woman of Aman.

Insidious Rex · 02-28-2003, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Artanis
I have no problem with that. A lot of Elven skills don't make sense physically. Like walking on top of the snow without leaving footprints, and walking on rope across a stream.

Yes but why make it look weird on purpose? Walking on snow is cool and makes sense visually. Doing some sort of weird double back pirouette thing that would require your arm to have no bones was just confusing. They could have easily come up with a move that actually made sense physically. But hey it wasnt as bad as the snow boarding scene while shooting arrows at Helms Deep.

Artanis · 02-28-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Insidious Rex
Yes but why make it look weird on purpose? Walking on snow is cool and makes sense visually. Doing some sort of weird double back pirouette thing that would require your arm to have no bones was just confusing.

Well, it looked weird to me because of the CGI, sort of discontinuous. But I think it's cool that Legolas gets to show off his skills like that. Never mind the details

It also happens so fast in the movie, it's difficult to notice any details. I agree, the DVD slow-motion will tell us his actual movements.

Black Breathalizer · 02-28-2003, 03:01 PM

Visually, Legolas' move to join Gimli on horseback was incredible. It succeeded in catching the audience by surprise (one of its chief purposes) and it looked great.

For those who argue that it wasn't physically possible, I would agree with you if we were talking about a Rider of the Mark or a Gondorian soldier. But I think it's ridiculous to say that it was not possible for an elf.

Lizra · 02-28-2003, 07:39 PM

I thought it looked like he couldn't decide which way to get on the horse, like he didn't know what he was doing. Plus, it did look like "dyno-rama" from the old "Jason and the Argonauts" movie. I like "elvish tricks", like the walking on the snow, but the swoosh, swoosh horse thing wasn't it!

02-26-2003, 08:41 PM	#1
Balrog_of_Morgoth Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Parkersburg WV Posts: 110	Cool part of the Warg scene... The warg scene during the trip to Helms Deep is a touchy subject, I know. But I have to say that at the beginning, when Legolas is standing on that ridgetop picking off orcs and wargs with his bow - that is just awesome! The sound of the arrows zinging of his bow is crazy wicked. I know it is not a realistic sound, but man, does it work in the movies. Definitely one of my favorite moments in the whole movie. I even like his super move to get on the back of the horse. What think you guys??? __________________ Fingolfin: The Mighty Elven Lord who challenged Morgoth to single combat!

02-26-2003, 08:46 PM	#2
Gorhiriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 112	Yep! Damn awesome! The slo-mo stuff was great. The swing-onto-the-back-of-the-horse move was a tab unrealistic, but looked REALLY cool. __________________ Do not mess with me, or I will call my dragons and Destroy You All!!! BOROMIR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "And anon shall I Sail into the West: with the setting sun I shall remove my light from this world..."

02-26-2003, 10:15 PM	#3
Celebriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 139	I loved the Legolas-horse move. It showed the power of the Elves. The horse was not scared at all. Who says it cannot happen? __________________ ~ Celebriel ~ Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes. ~ __________________

02-26-2003, 10:15 PM	#4
Shadowfax The Fleet-Footed Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: British Columbia Posts: 913	Meh, I didn't particularily care for it. __________________ Jesus saved me "To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child" (Cicero, 106-43 B.C.) "Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth" (Picasso)

02-26-2003, 10:17 PM	#5
Gorhiriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 112	sighs Everyone's a critic... I loved it. __________________ Do not mess with me, or I will call my dragons and Destroy You All!!! BOROMIR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "And anon shall I Sail into the West: with the setting sun I shall remove my light from this world..."

02-27-2003, 04:16 PM	#6
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	But it didnt make any sense physically. It looked like he swung one way then went back against his arm the other way. It looked wrong to me. Would have been cool if he just sort of swung underneath the horse and up and over. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

02-27-2003, 04:34 PM	#7
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	I loved that horse-mounting trick, even if it smelled of CGI. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

02-27-2003, 06:34 PM	#8
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	I loved it! Because it was in slow motion, the first time i saw it and he went to do it i thought he was going to get trampled and go under the horse and then i realised what he was doing and i was like "Wow!" (I'm a bit slow at noticing some things lol!)

02-27-2003, 07:07 PM	#9
Balrog_of_Morgoth Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Parkersburg WV Posts: 110	I think the move looks right. The way I see it, he graps a hold, swings one way and then sort of bounces/springs from one side of the horses chest from its momentum, which gives him the boost to swing up the other way and mount it. Does that make sense? I think I just confused myself __________________ Fingolfin: The Mighty Elven Lord who challenged Morgoth to single combat!

02-27-2003, 10:39 PM	#12
Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	That jump - well, it's cool, but it annoys me that I don't think it's physically possible. It just looks too unrealistic for me to like it. But in general, the warg scene was good. Except for what they did to poor Gimli. And knocking Aragorn over the cliff - but that did let us see wet Viggo...:P Lanelf. __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

02-27-2003, 10:46 PM	#13
Celebriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 139	I want to see Gimli do some great kick-orc fighting scenes. They make the others look so powerful and Gimli is just the kooky dwarf. The dwarves did not send him on the journey for nothing! Sorry, worked up. __________________ ~ Celebriel ~ Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes. ~ __________________

02-27-2003, 11:11 PM	#14
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Wasn't it Elrond who sent him? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-28-2003, 08:52 AM	#16
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	I agree with the Greatest Elven Woman of Aman.

02-28-2003, 03:01 PM	#19
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	Visually, Legolas' move to join Gimli on horseback was incredible. It succeeded in catching the audience by surprise (one of its chief purposes) and it looked great. For those who argue that it wasn't physically possible, I would agree with you if we were talking about a Rider of the Mark or a Gondorian soldier. But I think it's ridiculous to say that it was not possible for an elf.

02-28-2003, 07:39 PM	#20
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	I thought it looked like he couldn't decide which way to get on the horse, like he didn't know what he was doing. Plus, it did look like "dyno-rama" from the old "Jason and the Argonauts" movie. I like "elvish tricks", like the walking on the snow, but the swoosh, swoosh horse thing wasn't it! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

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