Has anyone seen the animated version?

Orcrist · 02-20-2003, 11:37 AM

Has anyone seen the animated version of LOTR? I got it for Christmas and I didn't know it even existed. I've watched it quite a few times and it is quite good.
I also think it's very similar to the film, and that Peter Jackson probably got a lot of his ideas from it.
Please post in and tell me if anyone else has seen it, and also what they think of it.
Thankyou!

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-20-2003, 11:42 AM

Yes, indeedy, I have. I thought it was good, too. Seemed to me to capture the spirit of Tolkien better than PJ's. Though I think a lot of the Mooters will disagree. (Black Breathelizer certainly would

`)

There's already a topic about Bakshi vs. Jackson. (Bakshi did the animated version). This might get closed because of that; but then again, it hasn't been posted in for awhile. And of course, this topic isn't about Bakshi vs. Jackson.

Varda Oiolosseo · 02-20-2003, 05:01 PM

The animated version freaked me out a bit! If it's the same one as your talking about. there is only one animated version isn't there?

Celebréiel · 02-20-2003, 05:13 PM

Theres two, Bashkis weird unfinished one....and another one that was three movies. I think the other one is much harder to find tho...*shrugs*

Varda Oiolosseo · 02-20-2003, 05:24 PM

Thanks! I wasn't sure! But the one i have is unfinished and it really freaks me out especially the Ringwraiths!

Insidious Rex · 02-20-2003, 05:49 PM

Freaks you out? Hmm. Well its very limited. And the musical aspect is just annoying. And it skips stuff. I think the Jackson films were much better. But then you have to give them credit for attempting such a thing like over 20 years before the film and when Tolkien was still a relatively underground deal compared to how it is now. Now the animated Hobbit movie was fun. That was designed more for animation really.

Artanis · 02-20-2003, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varda Oiolosseo
Thanks! I wasn't sure! But the one i have is unfinished and it really freaks me out especially the Ringwraiths!

What do you mean by unfinished?

Does it end abruptly in the middle of the story?

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-20-2003, 06:01 PM

There was Bakshi's (which ends the same place as PJ's TTT. Coincidence? ), Lord of the Rings, and Rankin and Bass did the Hobbit and the Return of the King.

Lady_of_the_Golden_Wood · 02-20-2003, 07:31 PM

My dad says that I can't see it because it's too stupid. I asked him though.

gimli7410 · 02-20-2003, 08:36 PM

how long is the animate movie

Aralyn · 02-20-2003, 09:52 PM

Personally I hated the animated version. I mean I like to pretend Middle earth is actually a place and in order to really enjoy the story (at least in my case) you have to believe it could happen. Animating it makes it seem so . . . not real. I liked PJ's better.

I know Middle Earth is not a place

I just pretend it is. Um never mind I'm not here . . .

hobinator · 02-20-2003, 11:15 PM

You know the scene with Odo Proudfoot when he says "Proudfeet"...PJ said he copied that directly from the animated version and wanted to keep that the way it was.

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-21-2003, 11:49 AM

And also where they hid under the root, if I am correct.

Middle-earth IS a place. Northwestern Europe!

The Cute Warg · 02-21-2003, 02:43 PM

I have seen a little bit of the animated version it's fun and it's also very cool.Don't you think sam looks a bit like a wart-hog where as in the film he is sooo sweet. Anyway speek to you later

legolas7410 · 02-21-2003, 10:14 PM

iahve seen the hobit made in the 60's but not he fellowship of the ring but i hope to soon! is it good? is the animation good?

Aralyn · 02-21-2003, 10:21 PM

Someone has a qoute that qoutes Ian mcklellen as saying there is a middle earth and its new zealend. Amen to that!!

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-22-2003, 12:09 AM

Don't listen to him! It's really Northwestern Europe!!!

Merlin · 02-22-2003, 09:45 PM

All I got out of the animated version was,

Quote:

Sing sing sing Frodo Aragorn AAAhHH oh no hahaha

Not a big fan of it obviously, I could at least understand Peter Jackson's

Aralyn · 02-23-2003, 02:29 PM

AMEN Merlin! Exactly what I was trying to say. It was not very apealling. And Gwaimir well I haven't really seen either so once i do I'll let you know what I think. Where in Northern Eourope?

***azalea*** · 04-15-2004, 10:38 PM

I happened to see this in the library the other day, so I checked it out out of curiosity. I had seen it about fourteen years ago, and remember becoming physically sick to my stomach because I thought it butchered the story so badly. After watching it again from a more mature perspective, I found that it wasn't as bad as that. My criticisms, specifically, are these:

Sam -- horribly animated and characterized. This is one of the things that made me sick.

The use of roto-scope was a very bad decision. VERY bad. It just looked too cheesy, and made the regular animation, which wasn't bad, stand out as animation, whereas if it had been completely done with traditional animation, it would have been easier to overlook the fact that it was animated (does that make sense to anyone?)

The orcs -- these have to be the very worst aspect of the movie. I think this was the other main thing that made me ill. They look like a bunch of guys wearing fake tribal masks. They are so poorly conceptualized by whomever was responsible for them.
The nazgul weren't much better. They practically looked palsied.

The final shot that shows Gandalf in slow motion killing an orc, and all the blood shooting up out of it -- yuck, what a bad way to end the movie.

Other stuff that stood out:
As I said the traditional animation wasn't that bad. I did find it humorous that since it was made in the '70s, the hobbits had '70s style hair and Galadriel looked like one of the women from ABBA.

But since I was a child of the '70s, I didn't mind it.

I thought his flight to the ford scene was too drawn out, with several seconds of inactivity. You can use that effectively in some live action movies, but in animation, it just looks lazy. In fact, I saw a lot of little things that looked like laziness (I can't remember specifically, but just stuff like that -- bad editing, I guess, and maybe some bad sound editing).

Of course the stuff people usually mention: Boromir the Viking, Aragorn the pro-wrestler (voiced by John Hurt), Legolas aka Bruce Jenner (voiced by C-3PO), a very tall Gimli, Aruman (why did they keep switching), the "barbarian" style Rohirrim, Treebeard. And of course the event stuff that was poorly changed from the book. However, it didn't make me physically ill this time, and I actually enjoyed it to some extent, so I guess I can change my former opinion of it from "terrible" to "mediocre."

02-20-2003, 11:37 AM	#1
Orcrist Sapling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Aha! Wouldn't you like to know? Posts: 6	Has anyone seen the animated version? Has anyone seen the animated version of LOTR? I got it for Christmas and I didn't know it even existed. I've watched it quite a few times and it is quite good. I also think it's very similar to the film, and that Peter Jackson probably got a lot of his ideas from it. Please post in and tell me if anyone else has seen it, and also what they think of it. Thankyou! __________________ Home is behind The world ahead and there are many paths to tread. Through shadow To the edge of night Until the stars are all alight Mist and shadow Cloud and shape Hope shall fail All shall fade.

02-20-2003, 11:42 AM	#2
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Yes, indeedy, I have. I thought it was good, too. Seemed to me to capture the spirit of Tolkien better than PJ's. Though I think a lot of the Mooters will disagree. (Black Breathelizer certainly would `) There's already a topic about Bakshi vs. Jackson. (Bakshi did the animated version). This might get closed because of that; but then again, it hasn't been posted in for awhile. And of course, this topic isn't about Bakshi vs. Jackson. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-20-2003, 05:13 PM	#4
Celebréiel Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: A house! Posts: 376	Theres two, Bashkis weird unfinished one....and another one that was three movies. I think the other one is much harder to find tho...shrugs __________________ Peace Yeah, Your an individual...just like everyone else. http://cartalien.deviantart.com/ - Arty goodness

02-20-2003, 05:49 PM	#6
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Freaks you out? Hmm. Well its very limited. And the musical aspect is just annoying. And it skips stuff. I think the Jackson films were much better. But then you have to give them credit for attempting such a thing like over 20 years before the film and when Tolkien was still a relatively underground deal compared to how it is now. Now the animated Hobbit movie was fun. That was designed more for animation really. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

02-20-2003, 06:01 PM	#8
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	There was Bakshi's (which ends the same place as PJ's TTT. Coincidence? ), Lord of the Rings, and Rankin and Bass did the Hobbit and the Return of the King. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-20-2003, 05:01 PM	#3
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	The animated version freaked me out a bit! If it's the same one as your talking about. there is only one animated version isn't there?

02-20-2003, 05:24 PM	#5
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	Thanks! I wasn't sure! But the one i have is unfinished and it really freaks me out especially the Ringwraiths!

02-20-2003, 07:31 PM	#9
Lady_of_the_Golden_Wood The Precious Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glasgow Posts: 204	My dad says that I can't see it because it's too stupid. I asked him though. __________________ was holding on hanging by a thread clinging to three words you said but words are meaningless in your absence.

02-20-2003, 08:36 PM	#10
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	how long is the animate movie __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

02-20-2003, 09:52 PM	#11
Aralyn FloraAzul Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Anywhere as long as there is a library in a one mile radius of here Posts: 751	Personally I hated the animated version. I mean I like to pretend Middle earth is actually a place and in order to really enjoy the story (at least in my case) you have to believe it could happen. Animating it makes it seem so . . . not real. I liked PJ's better. I know Middle Earth is not a place I just pretend it is. Um never mind I'm not here . . . __________________ Atheism: A Non-Prophet Organization Yet many shall be amazed when they see Him-yes even far off foreign nations and thier kings; they shall stand dumb-founded, speechless in his prescence. For they shall see and understand what they had not seen before-Isaiah 52:15a Civil War- 498,332 dead WWI-116,708 dead WWII-407,316 dead Korean War-54,246 dead Vietnam War-58,665 dead Persian Gulf-372 dead War on The Unborn=35,000,000 dead and counting

02-20-2003, 11:15 PM	#12
hobinator Enting Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 93	You know the scene with Odo Proudfoot when he says "Proudfeet"...PJ said he copied that directly from the animated version and wanted to keep that the way it was.

02-21-2003, 11:49 AM	#13
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	And also where they hid under the root, if I am correct. Middle-earth IS a place. Northwestern Europe! __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-21-2003, 02:43 PM	#14
The Cute Warg Sapling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I think I'm on Earth. Hard to tell really. Posts: 4	I have seen a little bit of the animated version it's fun and it's also very cool.Don't you think sam looks a bit like a wart-hog where as in the film he is sooo sweet. Anyway speek to you later

02-21-2003, 10:14 PM	#15
legolas7410 Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: For me to know and you to find out Posts: 35	iahve seen the hobit made in the 60's but not he fellowship of the ring but i hope to soon! is it good? is the animation good? __________________ system of a down stone sour slipknot and many more canada is the greatest country in the world.

02-21-2003, 10:21 PM	#16
Aralyn FloraAzul Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Anywhere as long as there is a library in a one mile radius of here Posts: 751	Someone has a qoute that qoutes Ian mcklellen as saying there is a middle earth and its new zealend. Amen to that!! __________________ Atheism: A Non-Prophet Organization Yet many shall be amazed when they see Him-yes even far off foreign nations and thier kings; they shall stand dumb-founded, speechless in his prescence. For they shall see and understand what they had not seen before-Isaiah 52:15a Civil War- 498,332 dead WWI-116,708 dead WWII-407,316 dead Korean War-54,246 dead Vietnam War-58,665 dead Persian Gulf-372 dead War on The Unborn=35,000,000 dead and counting

02-22-2003, 12:09 AM	#17
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Don't listen to him! It's really Northwestern Europe!!! __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-23-2003, 02:29 PM	#19
Aralyn FloraAzul Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Anywhere as long as there is a library in a one mile radius of here Posts: 751	AMEN Merlin! Exactly what I was trying to say. It was not very apealling. And Gwaimir well I haven't really seen either so once i do I'll let you know what I think. Where in Northern Eourope? __________________ Atheism: A Non-Prophet Organization Yet many shall be amazed when they see Him-yes even far off foreign nations and thier kings; they shall stand dumb-founded, speechless in his prescence. For they shall see and understand what they had not seen before-Isaiah 52:15a Civil War- 498,332 dead WWI-116,708 dead WWII-407,316 dead Korean War-54,246 dead Vietnam War-58,665 dead Persian Gulf-372 dead War on The Unborn=35,000,000 dead and counting

04-15-2004, 10:38 PM	#20
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I happened to see this in the library the other day, so I checked it out out of curiosity. I had seen it about fourteen years ago, and remember becoming physically sick to my stomach because I thought it butchered the story so badly. After watching it again from a more mature perspective, I found that it wasn't as bad as that. My criticisms, specifically, are these: Sam -- horribly animated and characterized. This is one of the things that made me sick. The use of roto-scope was a very bad decision. VERY bad. It just looked too cheesy, and made the regular animation, which wasn't bad, stand out as animation, whereas if it had been completely done with traditional animation, it would have been easier to overlook the fact that it was animated (does that make sense to anyone?) The orcs -- these have to be the very worst aspect of the movie. I think this was the other main thing that made me ill. They look like a bunch of guys wearing fake tribal masks. They are so poorly conceptualized by whomever was responsible for them. The nazgul weren't much better. They practically looked palsied. The final shot that shows Gandalf in slow motion killing an orc, and all the blood shooting up out of it -- yuck, what a bad way to end the movie. Other stuff that stood out: As I said the traditional animation wasn't that bad. I did find it humorous that since it was made in the '70s, the hobbits had '70s style hair and Galadriel looked like one of the women from ABBA. But since I was a child of the '70s, I didn't mind it. I thought his flight to the ford scene was too drawn out, with several seconds of inactivity. You can use that effectively in some live action movies, but in animation, it just looks lazy. In fact, I saw a lot of little things that looked like laziness (I can't remember specifically, but just stuff like that -- bad editing, I guess, and maybe some bad sound editing). Of course the stuff people usually mention: Boromir the Viking, Aragorn the pro-wrestler (voiced by John Hurt), Legolas aka Bruce Jenner (voiced by C-3PO), a very tall Gimli, Aruman (why did they keep switching), the "barbarian" style Rohirrim, Treebeard. And of course the event stuff that was poorly changed from the book. However, it didn't make me physically ill this time, and I actually enjoyed it to some extent, so I guess I can change my former opinion of it from "terrible" to "mediocre."

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