Sorry Stackpole, stick to Battletech...

Admiral Ackbar · 01-21-2003, 11:33 PM

Arrgh. After my hiatus, I have one message--save yourselves. The X-Wing series was absolutely terrible. I have NO IDEA WHY some people love it so much--it is a HORRIFYING melange of sex, bad writing and ridiculous plots. I'll go watch WWF for that, thank you very much. Why in the world does Lucas authorize these things? New Jedi Order? Whoa. A gigantic planet-ruining ship that's alive. BEEN DONE. I'm sorry, but both these series are absolutely terrible--please, for your sake, do not read either (X-Wing or NJO). </End rant>

Ackbar

Wayfarer · 01-22-2003, 01:24 AM

Haven't read the X-Wing stuff, but I agree that the NJO can't possibly get much worse than it already has.

elendili · 01-23-2003, 05:42 AM

That is why i refuse to read the star wars books, they're generally really disappointing (not to mention confusin)

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-23-2003, 11:29 AM

Star Wars books aren't really that disappointing: The Timothy Zahn series is spectacular.

BeardofPants · 01-23-2003, 02:23 PM

Yeah, Zahn is good, but I wouldn't touch the rest of the genre with a ten foot stick.

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-23-2003, 08:13 PM

I liked the Jedi Academy, also. :P

Wouldn't it be cool if they made the Zahn trilogy ep. 7-9?

Admiral Ackbar · 01-23-2003, 08:28 PM

I loved the academy trilogy too... though jumping to thrawn after ep. 6 might be a bit of a stretch--they'd have to describe the fall of Couruscant (which, I hold, is the worst explanation/plot in the history of serious SW). Then, there is the matter of those who aren't familiar with the EU at all... so, while its a cool idea for well-read SW fans, chances of a thrawn trilogy are nearly nil

(Zahn and Anderson are good writers--check out their books, but eye the rest with great suspicion. There are a few gems, but you need to find 'em).

Ackbar

Beleg Strongbow · 01-24-2003, 08:57 AM

Agreed. Have you read the Hand of Thrawn duology?

Specter of the Past / Vision of the Future (both by Zahn)

In my opinion they are the best Star Wars books ever written. They seem like cheesy ripoff crap at first when you read the previews, but they're truly a work of the master.

Tour · 01-25-2003, 05:22 PM

If only I had seen this before reading X-Wing, precious! Coran "juked" his fighter, "snap-rolled" to port, then sent two crimson bolts into the "eyeball", "vaping" it into a ball of blood-red flame. these boos are laughably stupid. stick with Zahn - hes written all the really good ones

Admiral Ackbar · 01-25-2003, 06:02 PM

Don't forget Isard conveniently giving something in the range of 8 MILLION credits to the Rebels. Whoa, first she abandons Couruscant, and then she gives 8 million to the rebels. Forget Mon Mothma, they should have a nice golden statue of her right beside the New Republic Capital.

Wayfarer · 01-27-2003, 01:09 AM

Let's see, crapy jargon or horrible plot, whichever is worse?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the problem is that all these authors seem to think star wars is a scifi universe, and they try to write it like it is. Icky.

Then again, it's basically fanfic, isn't it? What do you expect?

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-27-2003, 01:41 AM

Hmm...I've always thought of it as a scifi universe. What is it, then?

And I know what you mean about Fanfic: except for the ones by Weis and Hickman, I consider the DragonLance books to be fanfics.

Wayfarer · 01-27-2003, 02:07 AM

Did you just mention weis and hickman in my prescence?

*/Fights back spasms of violent rage.

As for what star wars is, it's a 'space opera'. Which puts it closer to the realm of fantasy, IMNSHO.

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-27-2003, 02:11 AM

While I think their works are a bit too risque in places, I still like DragonLance. :P Actually, in the last one of their books, there is slight hint at a demi-Christian view (1 purely good Creator deity), though I think this is most likely just stolen from Lord of the Rings.

Space opera? Och, I'm so ignorant.

***IronParrot*** · 03-04-2003, 02:45 AM

Quote:

"I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the problem is that all these authors seem to think star wars is a scifi universe, and they try to write it like it is. Icky."

Wayfarer, you just saved me a whole lot of writing by hitting the nail on the head. I'm in total concurrence with that, and it's why I reject Star Wars publications (other than those about the development of the films, etc.).

The Ben · 06-01-2003, 09:00 PM

Ya now, I don't even bother reading the Star Wars books. They are justso dissaponting

01-21-2003, 11:33 PM	#1
Admiral Ackbar Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 30	Sorry Stackpole, stick to Battletech... Arrgh. After my hiatus, I have one message--save yourselves. The X-Wing series was absolutely terrible. I have NO IDEA WHY some people love it so much--it is a HORRIFYING melange of sex, bad writing and ridiculous plots. I'll go watch WWF for that, thank you very much. Why in the world does Lucas authorize these things? New Jedi Order? Whoa. A gigantic planet-ruining ship that's alive. BEEN DONE. I'm sorry, but both these series are absolutely terrible--please, for your sake, do not read either (X-Wing or NJO). </End rant> Ackbar __________________ "We've got to give those fighters more time! Concentrate all firepower on that Super Star Destroyer!"--Admiral Ackbar

01-22-2003, 01:24 AM	#2
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Haven't read the X-Wing stuff, but I agree that the NJO can't possibly get much worse than it already has. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-23-2003, 05:42 AM	#3
elendili Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: a galaxy far far away (aka Manchester) Posts: 320	That is why i refuse to read the star wars books, they're generally really disappointing (not to mention confusin) __________________ Dovie'andi se tovya sagain "Courage my soul, now learn to wield The weight of thine immortal shield Place on thy head thy helmet bright Ballance thy sword against the fight See where an army strong as fair With silken banners spreads the air Now if thy bee'st that thing divine In this days combat let it shine: And shew that nature wants an art To conqeur one resolved heart" Andrew Marvell

01-23-2003, 11:29 AM	#4
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Star Wars books aren't really that disappointing: The Timothy Zahn series is spectacular. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-23-2003, 02:23 PM	#5
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Yeah, Zahn is good, but I wouldn't touch the rest of the genre with a ten foot stick. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

01-23-2003, 08:13 PM	#6
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I liked the Jedi Academy, also. :P Wouldn't it be cool if they made the Zahn trilogy ep. 7-9? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-23-2003, 08:28 PM	#7
Admiral Ackbar Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 30	I loved the academy trilogy too... though jumping to thrawn after ep. 6 might be a bit of a stretch--they'd have to describe the fall of Couruscant (which, I hold, is the worst explanation/plot in the history of serious SW). Then, there is the matter of those who aren't familiar with the EU at all... so, while its a cool idea for well-read SW fans, chances of a thrawn trilogy are nearly nil (Zahn and Anderson are good writers--check out their books, but eye the rest with great suspicion. There are a few gems, but you need to find 'em). Ackbar __________________ "We've got to give those fighters more time! Concentrate all firepower on that Super Star Destroyer!"--Admiral Ackbar

01-24-2003, 08:57 AM	#8
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	Agreed. Have you read the Hand of Thrawn duology? Specter of the Past / Vision of the Future (both by Zahn) In my opinion they are the best Star Wars books ever written. They seem like cheesy ripoff crap at first when you read the previews, but they're truly a work of the master. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

01-25-2003, 05:22 PM	#9
Tour Sapling Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the State of Confusion Posts: 4	If only I had seen this before reading X-Wing, precious! Coran "juked" his fighter, "snap-rolled" to port, then sent two crimson bolts into the "eyeball", "vaping" it into a ball of blood-red flame. these boos are laughably stupid. stick with Zahn - hes written all the really good ones

01-25-2003, 06:02 PM	#10
Admiral Ackbar Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 30	re Don't forget Isard conveniently giving something in the range of 8 MILLION credits to the Rebels. Whoa, first she abandons Couruscant, and then she gives 8 million to the rebels. Forget Mon Mothma, they should have a nice golden statue of her right beside the New Republic Capital. __________________ "We've got to give those fighters more time! Concentrate all firepower on that Super Star Destroyer!"--Admiral Ackbar

01-27-2003, 01:09 AM	#11
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Let's see, crapy jargon or horrible plot, whichever is worse? I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the problem is that all these authors seem to think star wars is a scifi universe, and they try to write it like it is. Icky. Then again, it's basically fanfic, isn't it? What do you expect? __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-27-2003, 01:41 AM	#12
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Hmm...I've always thought of it as a scifi universe. What is it, then? And I know what you mean about Fanfic: except for the ones by Weis and Hickman, I consider the DragonLance books to be fanfics. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-27-2003, 02:07 AM	#13
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Did you just mention weis and hickman in my prescence? */Fights back spasms of violent rage. As for what star wars is, it's a 'space opera'. Which puts it closer to the realm of fantasy, IMNSHO. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-27-2003, 02:11 AM	#14
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	While I think their works are a bit too risque in places, I still like DragonLance. :P Actually, in the last one of their books, there is slight hint at a demi-Christian view (1 purely good Creator deity), though I think this is most likely just stolen from Lord of the Rings. Space opera? Och, I'm so ignorant. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

06-01-2003, 09:00 PM	#16
The Ben Really Smelly Orc Join Date: May 2003 Location: i'm not going to tell you. You might locate me. Posts: 325	Ya now, I don't even bother reading the Star Wars books. They are justso dissaponting __________________ The Ben is Stronger Than the Sword

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