Most moving scene in the Sil?

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-15-2002, 11:45 PM

For me, it's Hurin standing alone, surrounded by dead trolls, guarding the retreat of the Elves after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, and screaming "Dawn will come again!" every time he slays. In a way Hurin redeems his entire race in that moment.

FrodoFriend · 01-16-2002, 12:17 AM

Pretty much Turin's whole story. Especially when he finds out the truth about his wife, and the part where he kills Beleg.

noldorlord · 01-16-2002, 09:11 AM

frodo friend is right. Turin is the most moving character in the book. I think the bit where he accidentally kills his best friend is really tragic though.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-16-2002, 09:30 AM

I agree with the Turin Beleg scene. Also, I loved the part where Morwen and Hurin found each other again and they sat together until sundown and then she died. I thought Finrod's death was moving, because he died in Tol-in-gaurhoth, which at one point had been his own watch tower of Minus Tirith. That made it much more dramatic.

Sauron's Nagging Wife · 01-16-2002, 06:21 PM

The death and burial of Finrod Felagund. The only part that makes me cry every time

"But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar."

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-16-2002, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Sauron's Nagging Wife
The death and burial of Finrod Felagund. The only part that makes me cry every time

"But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar."

Indeed. How sad and beautiful.

Renille · 01-16-2002, 07:40 PM

I, also, think the Turin-Beleg thing was the absolute saddest. But his sister's death was sad, too.

bropous · 01-17-2002, 12:17 PM

The Silmarillion is constructed of so many wonderfully touching scenes it is hard to find a favorite. However, using the "shed a tear" test, the one scene which did it for me on my last re-reading of the book was the scene where Fingolfin throws down his Kingship and rides off to challenge Morgoth the Bastige at the very gates of Angbad to mortal combat.

As he blows his horn and the hosts of Angbad quail, Fingolfin calls Morgoth a coward and craven and shames the Old Creep to come out and face him. Now, realistically, it's basically suicide, for the best Fingolfin can hope for is to slay Morgoth's physical form only, and Morgoth would continue to exist, while Fingolfin really has no hope of riding away from Thangorodrim alive. Even if he had slain Morgoth's physical form, the Balrogs probably would have poured out and ripped him to shreds.

It just tears my heart out as this incredibly brave yet headstrong Elf King fights Morgoth, Grond rending the ground around him, fighting hard in the face of utter hopelessness. Of all the scenes in this wonderfully written book, this one does it for me msot of all.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-17-2002, 12:31 PM

Another moving seen for me, was the Death of Fingon.

***Earniel*** · 01-24-2002, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Sauron's Nagging Wife
The death and burial of Finrod Felagund. The only part that makes me cry every time

"But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar."

Yes, it's so sad! Although the death of Nienor Niniel is rather tragic too.

Captain Stern · 01-24-2002, 07:22 PM

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Although the death of Nienor Niniel is rather tragic too.

If she actualy died that is

***Earniel*** · 01-25-2002, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Captain Stern
If she actualy died that is

Well she did, didn't she? At least I thought she did... didn't she?

Captain Stern · 01-26-2002, 03:05 PM

Check the last line of the chapter:

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But she was not there, nor was it ever known whither the cold waters of Teiglin had taken her.

Make of it what you will...

Finmandos12 · 01-26-2002, 03:33 PM

They meant her body, Stern. That's what I think.

***Earniel*** · 01-26-2002, 06:12 PM

Ah I see, that way. Well it is indeed open for interpretation.

markedel · 01-26-2002, 08:11 PM

She is a mortal-no reason why she wouldn't die.

bropous · 01-27-2002, 11:48 AM

Agreed, markedel, and welcome to the Moot. She was simply mortal and would not have had the "Doom" of the second children of Iluvatar set aside. Besides, although she lived through greivous hurts heaped upon an innocent, she hadn't really done anything of worth to have been taken to the Undying Lands. At least I don't read anything into the fact her body was not found, just that it was a tragic mystery.

Curufinwe · 02-08-2002, 04:57 PM

The rescue of Maedhros by Fingon from the heights of Thangorodrim by slicing off his hand. Also the mocking of Melkor Morgoth in Angband by Hurin.

Finrod Felagund · 02-22-2002, 03:29 PM

I have to say there are lots of moving scenes. The death of Finrod IN THE DUNGEON THAT HE BUILT, to save Beren, the meeting of Morwen and Hurin at their son's tomb on the day of Morwen's death. Fingon going to save Maehdros even after the kinslaying and ship burning is truly noble.

Findegil · 02-22-2002, 04:19 PM

My vote for Húrin's last stand. It was and still is for me the most moving scene in the bock.

Regards
Findegil

01-15-2002, 11:45 PM	#1
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	Most moving scene in the Sil? For me, it's Hurin standing alone, surrounded by dead trolls, guarding the retreat of the Elves after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, and screaming "Dawn will come again!" every time he slays. In a way Hurin redeems his entire race in that moment.

01-16-2002, 12:17 AM	#2
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Pretty much Turin's whole story. Especially when he finds out the truth about his wife, and the part where he kills Beleg. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-16-2002, 09:11 AM	#3
noldorlord Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: derbyshire, england Posts: 42	frodo friend is right. Turin is the most moving character in the book. I think the bit where he accidentally kills his best friend is really tragic though. __________________ "fly you fools" - Gandalf

01-16-2002, 06:21 PM	#5
Sauron's Nagging Wife Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Great Tower of Mordor Posts: 68	The death and burial of Finrod Felagund. The only part that makes me cry every time "But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar." __________________ "Will you stop fussing over that silly ring and come and eat your dinner before it gets cold?" ~Legrace, the Lady of the Great Tower Read about the Lady Legrace

01-16-2002, 07:40 PM	#7
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	I, also, think the Turin-Beleg thing was the absolute saddest. But his sister's death was sad, too. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

01-16-2002, 09:30 AM	#4
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	I agree with the Turin Beleg scene. Also, I loved the part where Morwen and Hurin found each other again and they sat together until sundown and then she died. I thought Finrod's death was moving, because he died in Tol-in-gaurhoth, which at one point had been his own watch tower of Minus Tirith. That made it much more dramatic.

01-17-2002, 12:17 PM	#8
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	The Silmarillion is constructed of so many wonderfully touching scenes it is hard to find a favorite. However, using the "shed a tear" test, the one scene which did it for me on my last re-reading of the book was the scene where Fingolfin throws down his Kingship and rides off to challenge Morgoth the Bastige at the very gates of Angbad to mortal combat. As he blows his horn and the hosts of Angbad quail, Fingolfin calls Morgoth a coward and craven and shames the Old Creep to come out and face him. Now, realistically, it's basically suicide, for the best Fingolfin can hope for is to slay Morgoth's physical form only, and Morgoth would continue to exist, while Fingolfin really has no hope of riding away from Thangorodrim alive. Even if he had slain Morgoth's physical form, the Balrogs probably would have poured out and ripped him to shreds. It just tears my heart out as this incredibly brave yet headstrong Elf King fights Morgoth, Grond rending the ground around him, fighting hard in the face of utter hopelessness. Of all the scenes in this wonderfully written book, this one does it for me msot of all. __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

01-17-2002, 12:31 PM	#9
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Another moving seen for me, was the Death of Fingon.

01-26-2002, 03:33 PM	#14
Finmandos12 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 327	They meant her body, Stern. That's what I think. __________________ The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

01-26-2002, 06:12 PM	#15
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Ah I see, that way. Well it is indeed open for interpretation.

01-26-2002, 08:11 PM	#16
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	She is a mortal-no reason why she wouldn't die. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

01-27-2002, 11:48 AM	#17
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Agreed, markedel, and welcome to the Moot. She was simply mortal and would not have had the "Doom" of the second children of Iluvatar set aside. Besides, although she lived through greivous hurts heaped upon an innocent, she hadn't really done anything of worth to have been taken to the Undying Lands. At least I don't read anything into the fact her body was not found, just that it was a tragic mystery. __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

02-08-2002, 04:57 PM	#18
Curufinwe Enting Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New England Posts: 59	The rescue of Maedhros by Fingon from the heights of Thangorodrim by slicing off his hand. Also the mocking of Melkor Morgoth in Angband by Hurin.

02-22-2002, 03:29 PM	#19
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	I have to say there are lots of moving scenes. The death of Finrod IN THE DUNGEON THAT HE BUILT, to save Beren, the meeting of Morwen and Hurin at their son's tomb on the day of Morwen's death. Fingon going to save Maehdros even after the kinslaying and ship burning is truly noble.

02-22-2002, 04:19 PM	#20
Findegil Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Geilenkirchen, Germany Posts: 192	My vote for Húrin's last stand. It was and still is for me the most moving scene in the bock. Regards Findegil

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