Tolkien books

ElfGal · 03-22-2008, 07:29 PM

Hey, I've read The Trilogy, The Simarillion, and The Adventures of Tom Bombadil. What books should i read next and in what order?

BeardofPants · 03-22-2008, 07:36 PM

IT'S NOT A TRILOGY!! [/cartman] >.<

How 'bout the Hobbit?

Letters is a good read if you want to delve into the thoughts of Tolkien. Unfinished Tales is also a great read. And then there's the histories if you want to apply an academic bent.

ElfGal · 03-23-2008, 05:50 PM

what do you mean?

Jon S. · 03-23-2008, 06:42 PM

You have offended a LOTR purist by referring to what The Master intended as a single book as a trilogy. Be comforted, however, in the knowledge that regardless of JRR's intent it is indeed often popularly referred to as a trilogy.

Wikipedia: "Although intended as a single-volume work, it was originally published in three volumes in 1954 and 1955, and it is in this three-volume form that it is popularly known."

BeardofPants · 03-24-2008, 04:58 AM

IT'S NOT A TRIL-... oh, ok then.

ElfGal · 03-24-2008, 08:58 PM

BIG DEAL. Firstly, I'm depressed that any of you would quote Wikipedia. Did you know that ANYONE can write ANYTHING they want in it? I can prove. I wrote a completely untrue fact on Wikipedia, and it's still there! Even so, I DONT CARE that LotR was possibly "intended" to be one book. I could "intend" to be president, but if I don't become president, the result would be final. Tolkien made up the titles "Fellowship of the Ring", "Two Towers", and "Return of the King". That was the final result. So don't mock me when I refer to it as a trilogy.

P.S. Same thing with C.S. Lewis. His books are separate, but can also be referred to as the "Chronicles of Narnia".

BeardofPants · 03-25-2008, 02:47 AM

OMG, dude, take a chill pill. Nobody was mocking you, fer bob's sake.

ecthelion · 03-25-2008, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRR Tolkien, Roverandom

'What a horrible little thing! ' the new dog said. 'Look at his miserable tail! Look at his feet! Look at his silly coat! '
'Look at yourself,' said Rover from the mer-lady's lap, 'and you won't want to do it again! Who called you Rover? - a cross between a duck and a tadpole pretending to be a dog!' From which you can see that they took rather a fancy to one another at first sight.

You two are obviously gonna be great friends

This is from Roverandom, which I love very much.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 03-25-2008, 08:54 AM

BeardofPants gave some good recommendations that were totally overlooked because of a semantic argument. I feel right at home here...

BeardofPants · 03-25-2008, 05:14 PM

*snicker* Welcome.

What would a tolkien board be without semantic bickering?

Jon S. · 03-25-2008, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElfGal

BIG DEAL. Firstly, I'm depressed that any of you would quote Wikipedia. Did you know that ANYONE can write ANYTHING they want in it? I can prove. I wrote a completely untrue fact on Wikipedia, and it's still there! Even so, I DONT CARE that LotR was possibly "intended" to be one book. I could "intend" to be president, but if I don't become president, the result would be final. Tolkien made up the titles "Fellowship of the Ring", "Two Towers", and "Return of the King". That was the final result. So don't mock me when I refer to it as a trilogy.

P.S. Same thing with C.S. Lewis. His books are separate, but can also be referred to as the "Chronicles of Narnia".

That was uncalled for. Did it really pass your awareness that the Wikipedia entry I quoted supports you?

But either way, chill.

ecthelion · 03-26-2008, 05:31 AM

welcome, ElfGal.
we are usually nicer to newbies...

Search older threads, there are lots of older discussions about which tolkien books to read and in what order. The search button is usually helpful (although sometimes topics are more disguised and hard to find) and you can start here:
http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=11872

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 03-26-2008, 08:23 AM

There was only one post in this thread that wasn't so nice and it didn't come from an old-timer.

Just sayin'.

The Gaffer · 03-26-2008, 08:54 AM

I thought it was six books

* ducks *

***Earniel*** · 03-26-2008, 12:18 PM

You just beat me to it, Gaffer.

So, have you read The Hobbit, Elfgal? If not, I think that would be a good next book to look at.

Curufin · 03-26-2008, 12:23 PM

I'd suggest Unfinished Tales next, but that's simply because I can't stand Hobbits.

The Gaffer · 03-26-2008, 12:35 PM

Oh yeah, definitely read the Hobbit next, then Unfinished Tales.

The Hobbit is the best-written, IMO.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 03-26-2008, 12:38 PM

I really enjoy reading The Hobbit aloud to my kid. It flows off the tongue; it's a storyteller's story.

Curufin · 03-26-2008, 12:40 PM

Quote:

The Hobbit is the best-written, IMO.

You think so? Really?

If the Hobbit had been the first thing I read of Tolkien's, I probably wouldn't have touched another of his books with a ten-foot bargepole.

I much prefer the poetic prose of The Silmarillion or Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth to the childish tone of The Hobbit.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 03-26-2008, 12:44 PM

Hey, I know you!

I never particularly liked reading The Silmarillion until I heard the audio book. I find it much more powerful spoken than in print.

03-22-2008, 07:29 PM	#1
ElfGal Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Silvan Realm of Mirkwood Posts: 16	Tolkien books Hey, I've read The Trilogy, The Simarillion, and The Adventures of Tom Bombadil. What books should i read next and in what order? __________________ ElfGal There is something good in this world, Mister Frodo; and it's worth fighting for! "All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." -Winston Churchill

03-22-2008, 07:36 PM	#2
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	IT'S NOT A TRILOGY!! [/cartman] >.< How 'bout the Hobbit? Letters is a good read if you want to delve into the thoughts of Tolkien. Unfinished Tales is also a great read. And then there's the histories if you want to apply an academic bent. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

03-23-2008, 05:50 PM	#3
ElfGal Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Silvan Realm of Mirkwood Posts: 16	So? what do you mean? __________________ ElfGal There is something good in this world, Mister Frodo; and it's worth fighting for! "All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." -Winston Churchill

03-24-2008, 04:58 AM	#5
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	IT'S NOT A TRIL-... oh, ok then. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

03-24-2008, 08:58 PM	#6
ElfGal Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Silvan Realm of Mirkwood Posts: 16	BIG DEAL. Firstly, I'm depressed that any of you would quote Wikipedia. Did you know that ANYONE can write ANYTHING they want in it? I can prove. I wrote a completely untrue fact on Wikipedia, and it's still there! Even so, I DONT CARE that LotR was possibly "intended" to be one book. I could "intend" to be president, but if I don't become president, the result would be final. Tolkien made up the titles "Fellowship of the Ring", "Two Towers", and "Return of the King". That was the final result. So don't mock me when I refer to it as a trilogy. P.S. Same thing with C.S. Lewis. His books are separate, but can also be referred to as the "Chronicles of Narnia". __________________ ElfGal There is something good in this world, Mister Frodo; and it's worth fighting for! "All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." -Winston Churchill

03-23-2008, 06:42 PM	#4
Jon S. Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 455	You have offended a LOTR purist by referring to what The Master intended as a single book as a trilogy. Be comforted, however, in the knowledge that regardless of JRR's intent it is indeed often popularly referred to as a trilogy. Wikipedia: "Although intended as a single-volume work, it was originally published in three volumes in 1954 and 1955, and it is in this three-volume form that it is popularly known."

03-25-2008, 02:47 AM	#7
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	OMG, dude, take a chill pill. Nobody was mocking you, fer bob's sake. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

03-25-2008, 08:54 AM	#9
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	BeardofPants gave some good recommendations that were totally overlooked because of a semantic argument. I feel right at home here...

03-25-2008, 05:14 PM	#10
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	snicker Welcome. What would a tolkien board be without semantic bickering? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

03-26-2008, 05:31 AM	#12
ecthelion Enting Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gondolin. in travian.it server5 Posts: 91	welcome, ElfGal. we are usually nicer to newbies... Search older threads, there are lots of older discussions about which tolkien books to read and in what order. The search button is usually helpful (although sometimes topics are more disguised and hard to find) and you can start here: http://www.entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=11872 __________________ The green earth, say you? That is a mighty matter of legend, though you tread it under the light of day! What does "LOL" mean?

03-26-2008, 08:23 AM	#13
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	There was only one post in this thread that wasn't so nice and it didn't come from an old-timer. Just sayin'.

03-26-2008, 08:54 AM	#14
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	I thought it was six books * ducks *

03-26-2008, 12:18 PM	#15
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	You just beat me to it, Gaffer. So, have you read The Hobbit, Elfgal? If not, I think that would be a good next book to look at. __________________ We are not things.

03-26-2008, 12:23 PM	#16
Curufin The Ñoldóran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	I'd suggest Unfinished Tales next, but that's simply because I can't stand Hobbits. __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

03-26-2008, 12:35 PM	#17
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Oh yeah, definitely read the Hobbit next, then Unfinished Tales. The Hobbit is the best-written, IMO.

03-26-2008, 12:38 PM	#18
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	I really enjoy reading The Hobbit aloud to my kid. It flows off the tongue; it's a storyteller's story.

03-26-2008, 12:44 PM	#20
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	Hey, I know you! I never particularly liked reading The Silmarillion until I heard the audio book. I find it much more powerful spoken than in print.

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