Pope Hospitalized

jerseydevil · 02-01-2005, 07:36 PM

Pope John Paul II has been hospitalized for flue and respritory problems. I figured I'd start this thread. I'm sort of wonderin gif he'll be able to survive things. From what the media is saying - it seems pretty serious and I don't think with his failing health that he'll come out of it.

I've sort of wondered how he's been able to do his duties anyway. When I hear the pope said this or the pope said that - it seems more like there is a committee or a person behind him who is saying these things - because in public he can barely speak.

Millane · 02-01-2005, 07:39 PM

I dont think he'll be able to pull through this, everytime you see him he's looks worse and worse

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Originally Posted by jerseydevil

I've sort of wondered how he's been able to do his duties anyway. When I hear the pope said this or the pope said that - it seems more like there is a committee or a person behind him who is saying these things - because in public he can barely speak.

yeah thats the impression that i get aswell...

Insidious Rex · 02-01-2005, 09:23 PM

Well lets not bury the old guy before hes ready to go now. From what I heard hes not in eminent danger of death just yet. In fact they dont even have him in intensive care and they said his temperature is back to normal. Remember hes come back from much worse. Whats more his handlers have been busy scheduling his meetings for next week including one with C. Rice on Tuesday. But hey you never know whatll happen so I guess we'll see over the next few days. So far the Cardinals havent been summoned...

Embladyne · 02-01-2005, 09:40 PM

Hmmm....who's in line to be the next pope? I don't keep up with this kind of thing.
I'm not sure if I think it would be better for him to die, cause he seems so frail...or if I want him to live longer because it will be sad for so many people when he dies...

cassiopeia · 02-01-2005, 10:31 PM

I've been thinking along the lines of what jerseydevil said. Whenvever I've seen him on TV, he seems to be very frail. His heart seems to want to continue with his duties, but I'm not sure if his body is up to it anymore. There's an article about his hospitalization here.

Lief Erikson · 02-01-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Embladyne

who's in line to be the next pope?

The cardinals cast ballots, electing the next pope in a carefully controlled process. As Insidious said, the situation isn't yet considered grave enough to summon the cardinals. I don't believe we could say that anyone is "in line".

jerseydevil · 02-01-2005, 11:13 PM

He may not be in grave danger at the moment - but in his condition - anything can happen. He is NOT in the best of shape at all. If he is having respritory problems - it could very easily develop into pneumonia or something. Also- the vatican has a history of keeping dire news secret until the last minute I think.

***Tessar*** · 02-02-2005, 03:32 PM

I would be VERY sad if Pope John Paul II kicks the clogs now

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I think that what JP is saying is indeed coming from him--he sticks mostly to writing now I believe, so someone else will be saying much of it for him, but I'm sure he's actually behind the things.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 02-02-2005, 10:54 PM

apparetly the cardinals aren't worried yet.

jerseydevil · 03-31-2005, 05:43 PM

It was just confirmed that the Pope has been given his last rights. It seems to be pretty serious now.

**Nurvingiel** · 03-31-2005, 06:24 PM

I knew he was very ill, but I didn't know he was dying.

I hope he's not in pain or anything.

Butterbeer · 03-31-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseydevil

It was just confirmed that the Pope has been given his last rights. It seems to be pretty serious now.

yup: have just checked this out: seems a precautionary thing at the moment (re: last rights) but it looks serious.

as regards the commitee etc (re: original post), well with respect - i take that as read (even with full health the pope himself (generically - i.e. whomever, whenever) has always himself historically been less than the Papacy itself as an organisation - no disrepect to Catholics - just an historical observation. With his recent illness i think there can be no doubt that this has been even more pronounced.

On a not too serious note though

; i'm sure we'd all concur with JD that we'd LOVE the newly elected Pope to be French!

P.s.
i am not a catholic myself but to all whom the Pope is important in whatever personal way: i don't mean any disrespect by being whimsical, and my best wishes go to you and to the Pope at this time

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-31-2005, 06:40 PM

no, Irish

the last riish pope was in the 12th century

Butterbeer · 03-31-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

no, Irish

the last riish pope was in the 12th century

ah fer sure, kitten spider child

The last sane person · 03-31-2005, 11:30 PM

Not catholic, though i do wish the pope the best now...That would make me laugh if the new pope was french, though i dont think that will happen. Really makes me wonder at who is gonna get the pointy hat next....John Paul II was pretty interesting if you read about when he was younger.

cassiopeia · 04-01-2005, 07:35 AM

I fear the pope isn't going to be with us much longer.

The latest news says he has suffered heart failure and that he is in a grave condition.

Mercutio · 04-01-2005, 11:07 AM

aww

He's one of my dad's heroes.

For school once we had to read a Christian biography and I chose one of him; extremely interesting, he's completely dedicated like no one I've seen, all his work during WWII in Poland was something special.

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Last Updated 01/04/2005, 23:01:49
The Vatican says Pope John Paul II is gravely ill but in a stable condition after he suffered a heart attack earlier in the day.
The Pontiff is also having breathing problems.
The Vatican's chief spokesman, Joaquin Navarro-Valls, says the Pope is still in a serious condition after suffering heart failure and septic shock, although he says the Pontiff is conscious and serene.
Mr Navarro-Valls says the Pope has celebrated mass and has met with key Vatican cardinals.
Earlier, he confirmed the 84-year-old had received holy communion for the dying on Thursday after his condition deteriorated.
Our reporter in Rome, Jean di Marino, says the spokesman became emotional as he took a question on the Pontiff's health.
He said it was an image he had never seen in 26 years - the Pope in such difficulty and yet appearing so serene.
A medical team is treating the Pontiff at the Holy See.
He is not expected to return to hospital.

Radagast The Brown · 04-01-2005, 03:58 PM

Apparently, Italian media reports said the Pope has passed away already. The Vatican hasn't confirmed... but it seems like he's not going to pass the night.

Or so I've heard on TV.

The last sane person · 04-01-2005, 05:05 PM

I pray for him then

jerseydevil · 04-01-2005, 05:37 PM

I was confirmed a bit ago that the Pope has died. I wonder how long it will take for them to elect another.

02-01-2005, 07:36 PM	#1
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Pope Hospitalized Pope John Paul II has been hospitalized for flue and respritory problems. I figured I'd start this thread. I'm sort of wonderin gif he'll be able to survive things. From what the media is saying - it seems pretty serious and I don't think with his failing health that he'll come out of it. I've sort of wondered how he's been able to do his duties anyway. When I hear the pope said this or the pope said that - it seems more like there is a committee or a person behind him who is saying these things - because in public he can barely speak. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

02-01-2005, 09:23 PM	#3
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Well lets not bury the old guy before hes ready to go now. From what I heard hes not in eminent danger of death just yet. In fact they dont even have him in intensive care and they said his temperature is back to normal. Remember hes come back from much worse. Whats more his handlers have been busy scheduling his meetings for next week including one with C. Rice on Tuesday. But hey you never know whatll happen so I guess we'll see over the next few days. So far the Cardinals havent been summoned... __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

02-01-2005, 09:40 PM	#4
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	Hmmm....who's in line to be the next pope? I don't keep up with this kind of thing. I'm not sure if I think it would be better for him to die, cause he seems so frail...or if I want him to live longer because it will be sad for so many people when he dies... __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

02-01-2005, 10:31 PM	#5
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I've been thinking along the lines of what jerseydevil said. Whenvever I've seen him on TV, he seems to be very frail. His heart seems to want to continue with his duties, but I'm not sure if his body is up to it anymore. There's an article about his hospitalization here. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

02-01-2005, 11:13 PM	#7
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	He may not be in grave danger at the moment - but in his condition - anything can happen. He is NOT in the best of shape at all. If he is having respritory problems - it could very easily develop into pneumonia or something. Also- the vatican has a history of keeping dire news secret until the last minute I think. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

02-02-2005, 03:32 PM	#8
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	I would be VERY sad if Pope John Paul II kicks the clogs now . I think that what JP is saying is indeed coming from him--he sticks mostly to writing now I believe, so someone else will be saying much of it for him, but I'm sure he's actually behind the things.

02-02-2005, 10:54 PM	#9
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	apparetly the cardinals aren't worried yet.

03-31-2005, 05:43 PM	#10
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	It was just confirmed that the Pope has been given his last rights. It seems to be pretty serious now. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-31-2005, 06:40 PM	#13
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	no, Irish the last riish pope was in the 12th century

03-31-2005, 11:30 PM	#15
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Not catholic, though i do wish the pope the best now...That would make me laugh if the new pope was french, though i dont think that will happen. Really makes me wonder at who is gonna get the pointy hat next....John Paul II was pretty interesting if you read about when he was younger. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

04-01-2005, 07:35 AM	#16
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I fear the pope isn't going to be with us much longer. The latest news says he has suffered heart failure and that he is in a grave condition. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

04-01-2005, 03:58 PM	#18
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Apparently, Italian media reports said the Pope has passed away already. The Vatican hasn't confirmed... but it seems like he's not going to pass the night. Or so I've heard on TV. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

04-01-2005, 05:05 PM	#19
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	I pray for him then __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

04-01-2005, 05:37 PM	#20
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	I was confirmed a bit ago that the Pope has died. I wonder how long it will take for them to elect another. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

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