Celeborn

The Wizard from Milan · 01-31-2005, 09:33 PM

I am particularly dissatisfied with the actor impersonating Celeborn.
The way in which he spoke gave the impression that Celebrorn was slow witted.
Did you have the same impression?

ItalianLegolas · 01-31-2005, 09:36 PM

I am pretty sure Celebrimbor was not in the movies WfM. He was the smith who forged the Rings of Power. Are you sure you aren't talking about Celeborn?

The Wizard from Milan · 01-31-2005, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItalianLegolas

I am pretty sure Celebrimbor was not in the movies WfM. He was the smith who forged the Rings of Power. Are you sure you aren't talking about Celeborn?

Yes, I think I am talking about Celeborn (I was in doubt between the two

). I mean Galdriel's husband.

I corrected my first post. Thanks!

ItalianLegolas · 01-31-2005, 09:50 PM

Ah...that makes more sense. I got more a impression of authority and power, not stupidity

Elemmírë · 01-31-2005, 11:47 PM

He certainly seemed rather dimwitted to me.

Maybe they wanted him to come across as not being familiar with the language?

I don't see why...

Celebrimbor?

It would have been neat if he made a cameo in the beginning.

ItalianLegolas · 02-01-2005, 07:51 AM

yeah, and then he could have died 2 minutes later.

The Wizard from Milan · 02-02-2005, 12:58 AM

Maybe we did see Celembrimbor in the movie, we just don't know about it: did not we see the arm of the elf that forged the three rings?

ItalianLegolas · 02-02-2005, 07:36 AM

I seriously doubt that was Celebrimbor

Telcontar_Dunedain · 02-02-2005, 12:33 PM

I didn't like the way Celeborn was portrayed, and I know Chrys doesn't either. i hated the way he talked really slowly as if we were stupid and acted like he was always in a straiung contest!

Minielin · 02-02-2005, 11:24 PM

I didn't like the portrayal of Celeborn. I think the attempt was for a slow-but-wise-as-if-ancient manner of speech, but it ended up coming out more as a slow-because-there-is-no-brain type. Cate Blanchett, on the other hand, I think did quite a good job as Galadriel (in general, that is- I disagree with some of the handling of her character but that's more a directoral issue).

Last Child of Ungoliant · 02-02-2005, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

I didn't like the way Celeborn was portrayed, and I know Chrys doesn't either. i hated the way he talked really slowly as if we were stupid and acted like he was always in a straiung contest!

yer darn tootin'!

yes because i am an elf i will talk in long sentences and i will not use punctuation because i want to send the viewers to sleep even though celeborn is supposed to be one of the wisest of the elves left at this time but oh well

gimme a break

and you know what makes it worse? we know that martin csokas is capable of sooo much more, he is a brilliant actor, i think maybe PJ tolde him to portray Celeborn as some sort of halfwitted boring nincompoop, cause i can't find any other explanation.

And , relax, end rant mode

ItalianLegolas · 02-03-2005, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Last Child of Ungoliant

yer darn tootin'!
And , relax, end rant mode

Is it safe to come out of the bomb shelters?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 02-03-2005, 07:21 AM

so long as no one mentions celeborn to me again!

ItalianLegolas · 02-03-2005, 07:25 AM

done, anything to avert the wrath of the great LCoU!!

Pytt · 02-03-2005, 09:44 AM

It's so long since I've seen the movie, but when you say, I remember I dodn't thikn he was very well acted. (like I have said anything else, when it's still chance for LCoU to come by and bomb the thread

)

Embladyne · 02-03-2005, 06:33 PM

I agree with the criticisms of the movie Celeborn expressed in this thread....but, everytime I see his name, I can't help thinking of when he is mentioned in UT as "Teleporno."

I was sitting in the car back home, and my mom was driving, when I read that and burst into laughter. I had to explain the whole thing...it took a while...

***Earniel*** · 02-03-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Embladyne

I agree with the criticisms of the movie Celeborn expressed in this thread....but, everytime I see his name, I can't help thinking of when he is mentioned in UT as "Teleporno."

I was sitting in the car back home, and my mom was driving, when I read that and burst into laughter. I had to explain the whole thing...it took a while...

We can thank Eru on our bare knees that Tolkien thought Celeborn the better name. *Just* imagine what the alternative would have been...

durinsbane2244 · 05-13-2005, 08:19 PM

he did sound dumb, but they gave a lot of his stuff to galadriel, which in this case is good!!

CrazySquirrel · 05-20-2005, 10:11 AM

Celeborn did sound dumb in the book as well as in the movie. But as for his appearence he was OK MUCH BETTER than Erlond!
And Galadriel looked every bit a sly witch like Gimli said

Lotesse · 05-20-2005, 03:37 PM

I agree, CrazySquirrel, about Galadriel; I always thought so too. And Celeborn, I think he was just heavily medicated and should have been in bed, but company came, so his wife made him get up and help her greet them to be polite

.

01-31-2005, 09:33 PM	#1
The Wizard from Milan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 421	Celeborn I am particularly dissatisfied with the actor impersonating Celeborn. The way in which he spoke gave the impression that Celebrorn was slow witted. Did you have the same impression? Last edited by The Wizard from Milan : 01-31-2005 at 09:55 PM. Reason: I had a name mix-up

01-31-2005, 09:36 PM	#2
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	I am pretty sure Celebrimbor was not in the movies WfM. He was the smith who forged the Rings of Power. Are you sure you aren't talking about Celeborn? __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-31-2005, 09:50 PM	#4
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	Ah...that makes more sense. I got more a impression of authority and power, not stupidity __________________ What was lost is now found.

01-31-2005, 11:47 PM	#5
Elemmírë avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	He certainly seemed rather dimwitted to me. Maybe they wanted him to come across as not being familiar with the language? I don't see why... Celebrimbor? It would have been neat if he made a cameo in the beginning. __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

02-01-2005, 07:51 AM	#6
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	yeah, and then he could have died 2 minutes later. __________________ What was lost is now found.

02-02-2005, 12:58 AM	#7
The Wizard from Milan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 421	Maybe we did see Celembrimbor in the movie, we just don't know about it: did not we see the arm of the elf that forged the three rings?

02-02-2005, 07:36 AM	#8
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	I seriously doubt that was Celebrimbor __________________ What was lost is now found.

02-02-2005, 12:33 PM	#9
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	I didn't like the way Celeborn was portrayed, and I know Chrys doesn't either. i hated the way he talked really slowly as if we were stupid and acted like he was always in a straiung contest! __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

02-02-2005, 11:24 PM	#10
Minielin Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: I dwell in possibility. Posts: 247	I didn't like the portrayal of Celeborn. I think the attempt was for a slow-but-wise-as-if-ancient manner of speech, but it ended up coming out more as a slow-because-there-is-no-brain type. Cate Blanchett, on the other hand, I think did quite a good job as Galadriel (in general, that is- I disagree with some of the handling of her character but that's more a directoral issue). __________________ "...then how shall I Revive the dying tones of minstrelsy, Which linger yet about lone gothic arches, In dark green ivy, and among wild larches?" Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum.

02-03-2005, 07:21 AM	#13
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	so long as no one mentions celeborn to me again!

02-03-2005, 07:25 AM	#14
ItalianLegolas Tolkien-aholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: somewhere in the solar system... more specifically NJ... Posts: 712	done, anything to avert the wrath of the great LCoU!! __________________ What was lost is now found.

02-03-2005, 09:44 AM	#15
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	It's so long since I've seen the movie, but when you say, I remember I dodn't thikn he was very well acted. (like I have said anything else, when it's still chance for LCoU to come by and bomb the thread ) __________________ Don't Panic!

02-03-2005, 06:33 PM	#16
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	I agree with the criticisms of the movie Celeborn expressed in this thread....but, everytime I see his name, I can't help thinking of when he is mentioned in UT as "Teleporno." I was sitting in the car back home, and my mom was driving, when I read that and burst into laughter. I had to explain the whole thing...it took a while... __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

05-13-2005, 08:19 PM	#18
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	he did sound dumb, but they gave a lot of his stuff to galadriel, which in this case is good!! __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

05-20-2005, 10:11 AM	#19
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	Celeborn did sound dumb in the book as well as in the movie. But as for his appearence he was OK MUCH BETTER than Erlond! And Galadriel looked every bit a sly witch like Gimli said

05-20-2005, 03:37 PM	#20
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	I agree, CrazySquirrel, about Galadriel; I always thought so too. And Celeborn, I think he was just heavily medicated and should have been in bed, but company came, so his wife made him get up and help her greet them to be polite . __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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