worst qoutes in lotr

[Rían]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Arwen*raspy voice*: you saw my child! ....

That scene really bugs me, because it totally eliminates the great love between Arwen and Aragorn. It's like she's "well, I guess I'll obey poppy and ditch Aragorn and sail to Valinor ... *sees vision of kid* - HEY! I had a kid with him! Oh well, guess I'll stick around - I love kids!, and I need some guy to have a kid, so it might as well be that unshaven twit Aragorn ... I guess I'll have to stick around."

[Lady Ravyn]

Originally posted by RÃ*an
That scene really bugs me, because it totally eliminates the great love between Arwen and Aragorn. It's like she's "well, I guess I'll obey poppy and ditch Aragorn and sail to Valinor ... *sees vision of kid* - HEY! I had a kid with him! Oh well, guess I'll stick around - I love kids!, and I need some guy to have a kid, so it might as well be that unshaven twit Aragorn ... I guess I'll have to stick around."

LOL!
yeah and i think it kinda degrades the realtionship between arwen and elrond- as if elrond was lying to her

[GrayMouser]

Theoden to Eowyn at Dunharrow:

" I would have you smile again"

"Uh, let's see, by this point we've established that there is no possibility of the Rohirrim relieving Gondor, Sauron's going to win, the whole world is going to be covered in Darkness and we're all gonna get slaughterd by Orcs so what exactly AM I SUPPOSED TO BE SMILING ABOUT?!?"

(Theoden then adds that Eowyn will live to see these days renewed, thus destroying the whole mood which is supposed to be courage even in the absence of hope- good one, PJ.)

Especially considering Eowyn's bitter lines in the book, spoken to Aragorn:

"All your words are but to say, you are a woman and your part is in the house. But when the men have died in battle and honour, you have leave to be burned in the house, for the men will need it no more."

Considering all the stick Tolkien has taken over the years for supposedly being anti-female and that PJ had to build up Arwen so much to counter it, to leave out this line is terrible.

[Aewionen]

"What do trees have to talk about except the consistancy of squirrel droppings."

Why can't they have Gimli say something intelligent for once??!?

Legolas: (shoots already dead orc) "It was twitching!"

Gimli won! Get over it....the guy can't stand loosing to a dwarf.

[Valandil]

OK, in general, I like the movies - or at least accept them for what they are (movies!) and appreciate the fact that we at least have SOMETHING in that form - and that many people who were unfamiliar are getting interested in Tolkien (just started another friend on the books: he's read 'The Hobbit' and told me this morning he's on 'Council of Elrond' in FotR).

Anyway, I can't give the exact words, but when Elrond comes to Aragorn at Dunharrow, gives him the sword and advises him to "give up his rangerin' ways and be who he was supposed to be..." This whole thing has been discussed before I think - Aragorn in the book being a 'ranger' with purpose - doing the 'dirty work' to prepare himself for his ultimate goal of defeating Sauron, ruling both Gondor and Arnor, and wedding the girl of his dreams - to Aragorn in the movies - in doubt, seeking to avoid his destiny and heritage,etc.

Anyway... when Elrond says what he does there, I just can't keep from hearing in my head the song 'Desperado'

Desperado...
Why don't you come to your senses,
You been out ridin' fences...
For so long...

[luinilwen]

amongst all the hobbit claiming, she-elves and men who are not men, one of my most detested lines is in fotr:

Elrond: "Gandalf - the ring cannot stay here!"

it really annoys me that Elrond would say something like that - I just don't think he would talk like that to one of the Ainur and a fellow ring bearer as though he were a dumb sh**! maybe that's nitpicking but it really annoys me, although I like to quote it with a really bad Indian accent because it makes my sister laugh... but we're both absolutely insane.

gah!

[Gerbil]

Good point, but of course in film LotR Gandalf is made much more crappy - stuid (just watched FotR again, and he really comes across as a bit ignorant - how about when he first meets up with Saruman for help) and a bully (take that you naughty Denethor - And that, and that!).

Not to mention he's never revealed to be bearing the ring of fire, even though of course he makes a reference to it on the Bridge of Khazad-dum :/

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

in response to Cirdan
Gandalf actually says:
"I withdraw you Saruman, as poison is drawn from a wound!"
NOT "I shall draw you Saruman, as poison is drawn from a wound."

[Gerbil]

Must admit I always thought the first part was:

'I will draw you'

The rest I hear as something like

'Saruman, unlike the rubbish left in this script'

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Yes gerbil, although most of the script is utter nonsense, this was for those that saw the films, and yet [for some strange reason] not read the books
however, i believe that it is the general feel of the film that some people saw it for, and PJ passed his test with that one

[Mrs Maggot]

Must admit I always thought the first part was:

'I will draw you'

That's funny, I was sure it was that as well. it sounds slightly better…

[Gerbil]

Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
Yes gerbil, although most of the script is utter nonsense, this was for those that saw the films, and yet [for some strange reason] not read the books
however, i believe that it is the general feel of the film that some people saw it for, and PJ passed his test with that one

Yeah I get your point, but 'general feeling' vs actual script is kind of lame - most people will have got the 'feel' from the stunning scenery, costumes, make-up and design etc, which I personally feel they did get pretty damn close to perfect.
The script though has very little to do with it, and parts of it are so cringe-enducing (even to filmy onlys, like my gf although she's finally seeing the light and reading the books!) that it has to make you wonder...

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Originally posted by Gerbil
The script though has very little to do with it, and parts of it are so cringe-enducing (even to filmy onlys, like my gf although she's finally seeing the light and reading the books!) that it has to make you wonder...
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To interject a bit, that's what periodically exasperated me with the movies, they would replace for no apparent reason book lines with script changes, the classic being Arwen's "If you want him, come and claim him" replacing Frodo's "By Elbereth and Luthien the Fair, you shall have neither the Ring nor me.", which not only sounds better, but gives the feeling of depth that JRRT's so good at, plus Frodo doesn't look like a total doofus.

P.S. Haven't been in London in a while. How's the Milennial (Milennium?) Bridge holding out?
Hope no one's singing:
"Milennial Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down,
Milennial Bridge is falling down, my fair lady."

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Gerbil
Yeah I get your point, but 'general feeling' vs actual script is kind of lame - most people will have got the 'feel' from the stunning scenery, costumes, make-up and design etc, which I personally feel they did get pretty damn close to perfect.
The script though has very little to do with it, and parts of it are so cringe-enducing (even to filmy onlys, like my gf although she's finally seeing the light and reading the books!) that it has to make you wonder...

i was not argueing that the general feeling beat the script, merely that the films were good enough as stand alones, where some films do not follow the book that they were based on.
however, i respect your points entirely, and apologise to you as i obviously had not phrased my posting correctly

[Gerbil]

Maybe we should have a new thread - 'best non-tolkien line'.
Not that I'd expect it to get a lot of posts

As for Millenium Bridge, dunno - I think you are actually allowed to walk on it now, which is an improvement!

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
Yes gerbil, although most of the script is utter nonsense, this was for those that saw the films, and yet [for some strange reason] not read the books
however, i believe that it is the general feel of the film that some people saw it for, and PJ passed his test with that one

Thanks for clearing that up LCoU (can I call you that? ). In its now correct form, I think it still ranks among the lousiest lines, at least partly due to the scene of Saruman getting "excorcised".

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

Originally posted by Nurvingiel
Thanks for clearing that up LCoU (can I call you that? ). In its now correct form, I think it still ranks among the lousiest lines, at least partly due to the scene of Saruman getting "excorcised".

i think the main reason it ranks as one of the worst scenes was that the film shows Saruman as possessing Theoden in some way, whereas the book quite clearly states that it was a speel, due to Grima of the Wormtongue.
(yes you can call me LCoU, but i'll settle for Chrys!!)

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

I meant spell, not speel!!

[Nurvingiel]

Chrys is a better nickname. BTW, you can edit posts by clicking the bottom right button in the post.

All the worst lines are associated with either fabricated plot devices (ie. Theoden's "possession") or completely made up scripts (ie. many of Elrond and Arwen's ridiculous lines).

As far as I know, the only other movies that Jackson directed were B-rate horror flicks (someone correct me if I'm wrong). If this is true, small wonder the fabricated sections were terrible. The parts of the movie where he stuck to the book were great though.

[cassiopeia]

Peter Jackson *did* write and direct Heavely Creatures, a film about two girls who commit a horrible crime. I haven't seen it, but it's meant to be very good. Still, he could have done a lot better in the LOTR.