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Old 07-31-2000, 04:15 AM   #41
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Re: Worshiped As Gods

yes, i meant Ezellohar.

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Old 08-20-2000, 01:18 PM   #42
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Ha ha! There it is!

Here's the thread I was talking about Gil
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Old 08-20-2000, 01:30 PM   #43
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Re: LOTR parrallel to the bible? Frodo vs. Jesus

Yes ive heard Frodo being called "christ like" but frankly i think that is ane exaggeration.i mean we never would of made it wothout Sam
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Old 08-20-2000, 02:31 PM   #44
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Re: LOTR parrallel to the bible? Frodo vs. Jesus

I guess that's why it's "Christ like"
Likeliness leaves room for difference you know...
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Old 09-10-2000, 04:55 AM   #45
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I don't think there is a Frodo is like Jesus in that way.HOWEVER,one interesting thing of note,is that at Frodo's "COMING OF AGE" party...he turned 33...which is also the year that Christ died.HE was 33.
Tolkien took a lot of stuff from The Bible and Myth.Both were big parts of his books.I think the most "BIBLICAL" book was Silmarillion,which I think was Tolkien at the HEIGHT of his powers.
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Old 09-10-2000, 05:46 AM   #46
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One might think so... One might not. I just think you must not see biblical influences everywhere.

Do you know of the sect that show her membership with the number 2 and 3?
Just think about it.

My old door number was 125. That is 22*2 and 27*3

This old building was rumored to be the home of this sect. They chose their number wisely, for it is a multiple combination of 2's and 3's.

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But look at it carefully.... Every number is a combination of 2's and 3's...
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Old 09-10-2000, 11:40 AM   #47
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Not 4!
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Old 09-10-2000, 01:24 PM   #48
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Yes... 2*2 and 0*3
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Old 02-26-2001, 06:16 AM   #49
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Re: Ri mean we never would of made it wothout

No, but neither would Sam have made it without Frodo.

Christlike? Not really. Tolkien would have considered it blasphemous to make the hero a Christ-figure, which is probably why he has to fail right at the end, even though Tolkien said it was "quite impossible" for him to cast away the ring, either "in act or will", especially at the moment of its maximum power.

I sometimes wonder if poor Frodo is a victim of theology.

I don't agree with Frodo's actions on Mount Doom being like Christ refusing the crucifixion. Refusing at Rivendell or Bag End, perhaps, might have been slightly comparable - even though I think it's pretty tenous to liken Frodo's story to Christ's too much - but not when he was as far gone as he was in Mordor.

Frodo is not a Christ-figure - he's more an anticipation of a Christian knight, pilgrim or saint. The saints were not perfect either.

"We are finite human beings with absolute limitations on the power of our soul-body structure, in either action or endurance" - JRRT.
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Old 02-27-2001, 08:00 PM   #50
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its not

Mr tolkien was a deeply religious christian he would not dare interfere with god [evil in my opinion]
Bible. it would be sacriligous to him.
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