Bloopers - Page 2

**Nurvingiel** · 01-04-2004, 02:19 AM

I don't know if this is a bloober or blooper or whatever, but it is a mistake in the theatrical version. They'll probably fix it in EE.

At the Battle of Pelennor Fields, the stupid looking pop-corn head orc captain says to the Witch-King, "What about the Wizard?" (reffering to Gandalf.)

Witch-King: I will deal with him

Except, he flies straight to Theoden, and does not confront Gandalf at the ruined gates of Minas Tirith, which is presumably what he was referring to. He didn't make any attempt to deal with him, but likely he will in EE.

This isn't a blooper either, but I think the gates of Minas Tirith should have opened outwards. This would have made them stronger. Also, the gate actually appeared to be quite flimsy - only made out of 2x4's. (They looked thick from the side, but the figures were carved quite deeply into them.)

Details details.

***Earniel*** · 01-04-2004, 06:37 AM

Speaking of details, this may not be a real blooper but why does Andúril have dwarfish runes carved on it? If it's reforged by the Elven-smiths of Rivendell shouldn't it have Elven-runes on it?

samwiselvr2008 · 01-04-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
I posted in another thread about this. I really don't understand why people can't see how he gets his shirt back in the movie. When he is brought to the tower the fight that the Orcs start is over his mithril mail, and the other guy is holding his other shirt. That shirt is then dropped up in the tower and the fight begins. It was obvious enough to me that they just walked over to the other end of the tower and found his shirt sitting there...

I noticed that the clothes were on the other side of the tower to, but they didn't take them b/c they pute on the orc stuff, unless the orc clothes were just to disguiss themselves, but then, why would they change back into regular clothes later? I geuss that it was just a mistake that they made.

Dúnedain · 01-04-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by samwiselvr2008
I noticed that the clothes were on the other side of the tower to, but they didn't take them b/c they pute on the orc stuff, unless the orc clothes were just to disguiss themselves, but then, why would they change back into regular clothes later? I geuss that it was just a mistake that they made.

That was orc armour they put on, so naturally they would have some clothes on under them

samwiselvr2008 · 01-04-2004, 05:57 PM

Except that Frodo didin't have any hobbit clothes to pute on, unless you count the ones on the other side of the tower, but you don't see them take them, and the fact that they were on the other side of the tower, and were not removed, was probally a mistake.

Shadowfax · 01-04-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Eärniel
Speaking of details, this may not be a real blooper but why does Andúril have dwarfish runes carved on it? If it's reforged by the Elven-smiths of Rivendell shouldn't it have Elven-runes on it?

Those angular runes are actually elvish in origin. They elves taught them to the dwarves. They were used primarily for carving into hard surfaces or chipping in stone, rather than writing with a pen, so I think it makes sense that the elves would use them to decorate Andúril.

Fimbrethil · 01-06-2004, 09:27 PM

Tehe...I had a blonde moment I fogot there were 9 Nazgul and thought there were seven so when Frodo puts on the ring and they show all of them flying toward the montain it shows seven of them. And of course at least one of them was killed so t oit was ablooper but it really wasn't. This had nothing to with anything I just put it there.

Dúnedain · 01-08-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Eärniel
Speaking of details, this may not be a real blooper but why does Andúril have dwarfish runes carved on it? If it's reforged by the Elven-smiths of Rivendell shouldn't it have Elven-runes on it?

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Originally posted by Shadowfax
Those angular runes are actually elvish in origin. They elves taught them to the dwarves. They were used primarily for carving into hard surfaces or chipping in stone, rather than writing with a pen, so I think it makes sense that the elves would use them to decorate Andúril.

Let's also not forget the origins of the sword to begin with.

Narsil was made by Telchar, a Dwarf of Nogrod in the Blue Mountains, and one of the greatest smiths in the history of Middle-earth. Among his works were Angrist (the knife that freed the Silmaril from the Iron Crown), Narsil (the sword of Elendil, later reforged for Aragorn as Andúril) and the Dragon-helm of Dor-lómin.

So, with that being said, I think that could be a big reason as to why dwarf runes were used

Finrod Felagund · 01-08-2004, 02:22 PM

When the fellowship first sees the Argonath, they both have their left hands up *it think it's their left. But when they've passed and the Argonath is in the distance, one has its right and the other it's left up.

***Earniel*** · 01-08-2004, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
Narsil was made by Telchar, a Dwarf of Nogrod in the Blue Mountains, and one of the greatest smiths in the history of Middle-earth. Among his works were Angrist (the knife that freed the Silmaril from the Iron Crown), Narsil (the sword of Elendil, later reforged for Aragorn as Andúril) and the Dragon-helm of Dor-lómin.

*scratches head*

Well, that would explain it. I guess I forgot about Telchar. Thanks of clearing it up.

matthew · 01-08-2004, 04:56 PM

Speaking of bloopers, I thought that the dead men of dunharrow took the ships and left, and didnt fight in the battle of the pelenor fields. i hope no one mentioned this on page one.

Fimbrethil · 01-08-2004, 10:46 PM

Nope if memory serves me they fought. But didn't Aragorn take Narsil in it's reforged form from Rivendell when they all set out to begin with? I think he did becasue in Rohan when Wormtongue was like "take their weopons" Aragon was all like" be carful this is narsil". *being blonde* That's where all the "likes came form".

Tuor of Gondolin · 01-08-2004, 11:32 PM

No. matthew is correct

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(Gimli speaking) 'mighty indeed was Aragorn that day (at Pelargir). Lo! All the black fleet was in his hands; and he chose the greatest ship to be his own, and he went up into it. Then he let sound a great concourse of trumpets taken from the enemy; and the Shadow Host withdrew to the shore. There they stood silent, hardly to be seen, save for a red gleam in their eyes that caught the glare of the ships that were burning. And Aragorn spoke in a loud voice to the Dead Men, crying: ' "Hear now the words of the Heir of Isildur! Your oath is fulfilled. Go back and trouble not the valleys ever again! Depart and be at rest!" 'And thereupon the King of the Dead stood out before the host and broke his spear and cast it down. Then he bowed low and turned away; and swiftly the whole grey host drew off and vanished like a mist that is driven back by a sudden wind; and it seemed to me that I awoke from a dream.'

Dúnedain · 01-09-2004, 12:48 AM

I don't think Fim meant that the Army of the Dead went to the Pelannor I think he meant that they fought the Corsairs...

And yes Fim he did take the reforged sword with him when they left and he did get cranky about leaving it with Hama

Fimbrethil · 01-09-2004, 01:32 PM

No I did mean they went to Pelannor, my mistake. I really need to reread the books. Anywho yeah I thought so...I geuss it made for a rather interesting scene in the movie...that little difference didn't me as much as the others I was just curious.

Varda Oiolosseo · 01-09-2004, 05:35 PM

this isn't a blooper either -

At the beginning when Deagol climbs out of the river in one shot you see the ring covered in mud and then he drops it and you see it in the grass and it is clean with no mud on it at all.

Talking of Frodo and Sam in the orc armour i thought it was funny how Sam still had his pots and pans fastened onto the bottom of the armour. bless little Samwise

Jedi X · 01-12-2004, 11:04 AM

this isnt from rotk but from fotr; i always wondered, gandalf got his staff snatched by saruman. but then, he has it back later. i thought wizards only got one staff. maybe gandalf had a reserve? anyway, the only reason i bring this up is because i have a question, and i wanted to get my foot in the door without having to start a whole other thread.

okay, you know when in fotr they leave rivendell, then they are all sitting on those rocks talking about which way to go. and they see those birds flying toward them "whats that?" "oh just a puff of clouds" "its moving towards us"

then legolas says something, shouts it, that for the life of me i cannot make out. phonically its sounds like "cry me from dublin". so what the heck is he saying, anyway?

gollum9630 · 01-12-2004, 11:13 AM

hey, that reminds me, in that same scene, they say its coming against the wind then you see all there hair is blowing backwards while they are looking at this mysterious cloud coming at them.

oh yah, and its not cry me, but i cant remeber anymore then that.

SamNotSoWise · 01-12-2004, 11:51 AM

"Crebain from Dunland!"

Basically, crebain is a kind of raven- or crow-like bird (although I thought they looked more like bats in the movie) and Dunland is where they are from.

Dunland was near the southern Misty Mountains and its people were enemies of Rohan. Saruman used the crebain as spies.

Thanks to The Encyclopedia of Arda! http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm

Jedi X · 01-13-2004, 08:46 AM

awesome. thanks sam, you rule!

01-04-2004, 06:37 AM	#22
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Speaking of details, this may not be a real blooper but why does Andúril have dwarfish runes carved on it? If it's reforged by the Elven-smiths of Rivendell shouldn't it have Elven-runes on it? __________________ We are not things.

01-04-2004, 05:57 PM	#25
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	Except that Frodo didin't have any hobbit clothes to pute on, unless you count the ones on the other side of the tower, but you don't see them take them, and the fact that they were on the other side of the tower, and were not removed, was probally a mistake. __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

01-06-2004, 09:27 PM	#27
Fimbrethil My microwave speaks to me Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Having conversations with my major household appliances. Posts: 937	Tehe...I had a blonde moment I fogot there were 9 Nazgul and thought there were seven so when Frodo puts on the ring and they show all of them flying toward the montain it shows seven of them. And of course at least one of them was killed so t oit was ablooper but it really wasn't. This had nothing to with anything I just put it there. __________________ Bah, Bah black sheep have oyu any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full! One for the master, one for the dame, one for the little boy who lives down the lane! Bah, bah black sheep have you any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full. I'll be gone for a while. But never fear! "I shall return anon!"

01-08-2004, 02:22 PM	#29
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	When the fellowship first sees the Argonath, they both have their left hands up *it think it's their left. But when they've passed and the Argonath is in the distance, one has its right and the other it's left up. __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

01-08-2004, 04:56 PM	#31
matthew Enting Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 75	Speaking of bloopers, I thought that the dead men of dunharrow took the ships and left, and didnt fight in the battle of the pelenor fields. i hope no one mentioned this on page one. __________________ Nai anar caluva tierelyanna Flame me. Go ahead. Matthew in 2028. One by one we're bringing them back. Vote Nader. Stop the hamster eaters!!!! End global warming! Turn on the AC!!! Gadzooks! Run!

01-08-2004, 10:46 PM	#32
Fimbrethil My microwave speaks to me Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Having conversations with my major household appliances. Posts: 937	Nope if memory serves me they fought. But didn't Aragorn take Narsil in it's reforged form from Rivendell when they all set out to begin with? I think he did becasue in Rohan when Wormtongue was like "take their weopons" Aragon was all like" be carful this is narsil". being blonde That's where all the "likes came form". __________________ Bah, Bah black sheep have oyu any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full! One for the master, one for the dame, one for the little boy who lives down the lane! Bah, bah black sheep have you any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full. I'll be gone for a while. But never fear! "I shall return anon!"

01-09-2004, 12:48 AM	#34
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	I don't think Fim meant that the Army of the Dead went to the Pelannor I think he meant that they fought the Corsairs... And yes Fim he did take the reforged sword with him when they left and he did get cranky about leaving it with Hama __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

01-09-2004, 01:32 PM	#35
Fimbrethil My microwave speaks to me Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Having conversations with my major household appliances. Posts: 937	No I did mean they went to Pelannor, my mistake. I really need to reread the books. Anywho yeah I thought so...I geuss it made for a rather interesting scene in the movie...that little difference didn't me as much as the others I was just curious. __________________ Bah, Bah black sheep have oyu any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full! One for the master, one for the dame, one for the little boy who lives down the lane! Bah, bah black sheep have you any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full. I'll be gone for a while. But never fear! "I shall return anon!"

01-09-2004, 05:35 PM	#36
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	this isn't a blooper either - At the beginning when Deagol climbs out of the river in one shot you see the ring covered in mud and then he drops it and you see it in the grass and it is clean with no mud on it at all. Talking of Frodo and Sam in the orc armour i thought it was funny how Sam still had his pots and pans fastened onto the bottom of the armour. bless little Samwise

01-12-2004, 11:04 AM	#37
Jedi X Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Behind the East Wind Posts: 22	this isnt from rotk but from fotr; i always wondered, gandalf got his staff snatched by saruman. but then, he has it back later. i thought wizards only got one staff. maybe gandalf had a reserve? anyway, the only reason i bring this up is because i have a question, and i wanted to get my foot in the door without having to start a whole other thread. okay, you know when in fotr they leave rivendell, then they are all sitting on those rocks talking about which way to go. and they see those birds flying toward them "whats that?" "oh just a puff of clouds" "its moving towards us" then legolas says something, shouts it, that for the life of me i cannot make out. phonically its sounds like "cry me from dublin". so what the heck is he saying, anyway? __________________ That which was is that which will be; and that which is done is that which will be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

01-12-2004, 11:13 AM	#38
gollum9630 Canadian Guy. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The true North Strong and Free Posts: 1,513	hey, that reminds me, in that same scene, they say its coming against the wind then you see all there hair is blowing backwards while they are looking at this mysterious cloud coming at them. oh yah, and its not cry me, but i cant remeber anymore then that. __________________ "Canadians are so apathetic, but, what are you gonna do about it" -Glen Foster Wierd Harry Potter quotes the old nintendo duck hunt game Lemmings Swron Random Homer Simpson Quotes

01-12-2004, 11:51 AM	#39
SamNotSoWise Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 41	"Crebain from Dunland!" Basically, crebain is a kind of raven- or crow-like bird (although I thought they looked more like bats in the movie) and Dunland is where they are from. Dunland was near the southern Misty Mountains and its people were enemies of Rohan. Saruman used the crebain as spies. Thanks to The Encyclopedia of Arda! http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm

01-13-2004, 08:46 AM	#40
Jedi X Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Behind the East Wind Posts: 22	awesome. thanks sam, you rule! __________________ That which was is that which will be; and that which is done is that which will be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

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