Arwen Expansion

i agree with you, FilmHobbit but in one thing: the problem is not what women expect to see in a movie nowadays, but what works better in a movie from a comercial point of view: a film with a love story is more comercial than a film merely based on a fight for power or a meditation on death and immortality...

And its more commercially viable because that's what women want and expect to see.

I find myself dreading to see Arwen carrying Frodo upon Asfaloth across the Ford. This is the scene where Frodo stands alone in defiance of the leader of the Nazgul. "Come back, come back, to Mordor we will take you". It is one of the most memorable and frightening scenes from the book; Frodo brandishing his fiery Barrow blade which shatters under the spell of the Witch King as Frodo swoons and falls from the horse, to lie upon the bank and dimly see the dark shapes of his companions and the blazing figure of Glorfindel as they drive the Nazgul into the flood. So Arwen will do this instead, protecting the injured Hobbit? This is one scene that Bakshi got right (with the exception of Glorfindel). Frodo faces the Witch King alone, not with the help of Aragorn's betrothed nor anyone else.

What you said is not cofirmed Dag... and some indications have said it is not so.

Wow. You've got to have balls to call yourself The Dagda. Or a bulbous head, or both.

Dagda is Celtic god/goddess isn't it? Like Danu, or Cernunnos?

Yes, I read "Slaine".

Where was I?

I forget.

Yep

I'm not too sure if anyone has posted this yet, but I found it at TORN.

It's a pretty big image, so I won't post it, but here's the link -
www.theonering.net/movie/s****book/large/1075

I assume this is the Fords scene.

Does Arwen really look like that? Pointy ears and odd dress?

And that sword!!!! I thought the difference between Elf and human weapons was in its quality and magic, not its outward design and appearance. I always imagined Glamdring, orcrist and sting to be standard looking straight double-edged blades, what people call cruciform swords much used in medieval Europe. Apart from glowing in the dark, they would look like Mannish weapons.

Does Arwen really look like that? Pointy ears and odd dress?

Peter Jackson's Arwen looks that way.

And that sword!!!! I thought the difference between Elf and human weapons was in its quality and magic, not its outward design and appearance. I always imagined Glamdring, orcrist and sting to be standard looking straight double-edged blades, what people call cruciform swords much used in medieval Europe. Apart from glowing in the dark, they would look like Mannish weapons.

Middle-earth is not based on medieval Europe, however, so there is no need for anyone to limit themselves to medieval-style swords. In fact, the descriptions Tolkien gives of his swords tend to be very generic.

I did some Elvish sword research for an artist at WETA a couple of years ago and I can assure you that there is nothing in the book relating to Elvish weapons which endorses any particular kind of style.

There is a certain elegance to Arwen's sword which, I think, has an Elvish feel to it. It's artistic and expressive, and Tolkien stated more than once that the Elves were artistic.

I saw one of the other pictures (Aragorn & Arwen together in Rivendell I think).... I think Aragorn looks a bit like Meat Loaf :lol: !!! Probably the picture was stretched sideways a little...

The pic you saw (and I saw) was captioned incorrectly. That was Elrond, not Aragorn.

So Elrond looks like Meatloaf?? Not sure that is really better.

Haven't you scene pics of Elrond? He doesn't look like meatloaf.

No no no. not meatloaf... Meatloaf.

I've been relying too much on Ted Nasmith's illustrations for what Middle-Earth looked like. Sorry. Guess we all have licence on how to imagine Middle-earth.

Wait a minute... that guy was ELROND, not Aragorn? I know Elrond's supposed to be old, but.... Elrond with stubble? Are you sure that's Elrond?

Stubble? No stubble!

If you wanna see good pics of the characters, go to the official site!

www.lordoftherings.net

You're right, that WAS Elrond. :lol:

Aragorn looks a lot better, fortunately. Why did Elrond wear his hair like that? I thought he would be well-groomed.

Hey... Faramir is blond? :lol:

He looks well groomed to me.

I meant in the picture of Arwen and Elrond together. I didn't really think Elrond had shoulder length hair, but it looks untidy.