Best Beer in the Westfarthing

Brimvalir · 03-08-2002, 01:55 PM

Isnt the Best beer in the Westfarthing the only ale mentioned in the Lord of the Rings ? or were there others

emplynx · 03-09-2002, 12:40 AM

I could go for a pint and a some pipe weed right now.

Varda-Me · 03-09-2002, 01:05 AM

Well, they may not have mentioned ale specifically, but I'm sure there was plenty at Bilbo's party......

ArwenEvenstar · 03-09-2002, 12:09 PM

is pipeweed just something made up in LOTR or is it real?

Earenya · 03-09-2002, 03:11 PM

There is a bar here that serves HUGE mugs of beer (36ounces or something like that). The mugs are thick and heavy and huge handled, and it is proportional to the hobbits & their pints!!!

adanedhel · 03-09-2002, 03:13 PM

I know for a "fact" that Aragorn drank Crown Royal (show-off).

Ted Sandyman drank Miller Beer.

Sauron drank Zima, which explains why he was always in such a foul mood.

Kirinki54 · 03-09-2002, 05:11 PM

Not concerning a brand, but a vintage:

"The Northfarthing barley was so fine that the beer of 1420 malt was long remembered and became a byword. Indeed a generation later one might hear an old gaffer in an inn, after a good pint of well-earned ale, put down his mug with a sigh: 'Ah! that was proper fourteen-twenty, that was!'" (The Grey Havens)

**crickhollow** · 03-09-2002, 06:11 PM

farmer maggot served the four hobbits beer, didn't he? I left my copy of the Fellowship at home! *pouts*

Menelvagor · 03-10-2002, 03:01 AM

I think that all the regions of the Shire had there own slightly different vintage.

Welcome to the moot, Crickhollow!

TomFoolOfATook · 04-17-2002, 12:31 PM

Hobbits Drunk (shiver)

barrelrider110 · 04-17-2002, 01:08 PM

Quote:

is pipeweed just something made up in LOTR or is it real?

In the Hobbit, the stuff that Bilbo, Gandalf and the dwarves smoked was referred to as Tobacco, as Bilbo points out to Gandalf,

Quote:

"And a very fine morning for a pipe of tobacco out of doors, into the bargain. If you have a pipe about you, sit down and have a fill of mine! There's no hurry, we have all the day before us!"

So pipeweed is tobacco. I don't think the professor had any mind-altering herb in mind.

The best beer in the Northfarthing is old 1420. I'm still searching the store refrigerators for some. Let me know if you run across a sixpack.

Elfhelm · 04-17-2002, 02:44 PM

In fact, if you check some phonebooks in Kentucky where they grow a lot of tobacco and use hobbittish expressions, you will find names like Baggins and Took. Why? Because once Prof Tolkien had a student from Kentucky whose ways were so interesting that he spent time listening to him tell stories of home, while sitting together smoking pipes. My source is Guy Davenport, Geography of the Imagination.

Pailan · 04-18-2002, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elfhelm
In fact, if you check some phonebooks in Kentucky where they grow a lot of tobacco and use hobbittish expressions, you will find names like Baggins and Took. Why? Because once Prof Tolkien had a student from Kentucky whose ways were so interesting that he spent time listening to him tell stories of home, while sitting together smoking pipes. My source is Guy Davenport, Geography of the Imagination.

That's pretty neat. Must check out that book.

On the subject of ale, I would imagine that and meade (and maybe entdraughts) are easier to brew than say a lager or a pilsner. So ale woud be the order of the day in Middle Earth, unless your hanging with elves then it would be wine.

On the subject of pipe weed... much has been said on the topic back in early January in a thread called, "Drug Refrences". It was a very lively discussion. I'd give the url, but that doesn't seem to be working for me at the moment....

Elfhelm · 04-18-2002, 07:02 PM

It was a typo that held you up. Drug References:
http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...rug+References

Pailan · 04-18-2002, 07:10 PM

Thanks there, Elfhelm. I suspect my copy and paste method is sloppy as well.

03-08-2002, 01:55 PM	#1
Brimvalir Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 103	Best Beer in the Westfarthing Isnt the Best beer in the Westfarthing the only ale mentioned in the Lord of the Rings ? or were there others __________________ Swords are of no more use here ... All that is gold does not glitter nor are all those who wander lost......

03-09-2002, 12:09 PM	#4
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	is pipeweed just something made up in LOTR or is it real? __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

03-09-2002, 03:11 PM	#5
Earenya Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pinnath Gelin, formerly in Angaron... Posts: 228	There is a bar here that serves HUGE mugs of beer (36ounces or something like that). The mugs are thick and heavy and huge handled, and it is proportional to the hobbits & their pints!!! __________________ O mor henion i dhu Ely siriar, el sila Ai! Aniron.... Tiro! El eria e mor I 'lir en el luitha 'uren Ai! Aniron... FRODO LIVES!

03-09-2002, 03:13 PM	#6
adanedhel Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chigago, IL Posts: 40	I know for a "fact" that Aragorn drank Crown Royal (show-off). Ted Sandyman drank Miller Beer. Sauron drank Zima, which explains why he was always in such a foul mood. __________________ "Say this to Manwe Sulimo, High King of Arda: if Feanor cannot overthrow Morgoth, at least he delays not to assail him, and sits not idle in grief. And it may be that Eru has set in me a fire greater than thou knowest." Feanor

03-09-2002, 05:11 PM	#7
Kirinki54 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: European Union Posts: 463	Not concerning a brand, but a vintage: "The Northfarthing barley was so fine that the beer of 1420 malt was long remembered and became a byword. Indeed a generation later one might hear an old gaffer in an inn, after a good pint of well-earned ale, put down his mug with a sigh: 'Ah! that was proper fourteen-twenty, that was!'" (The Grey Havens) __________________ 'They need more gardens,' said Legolas. 'The houses are dead, and there is too little here that grows and is glad. If Aragorn comes into his own, the people of the Wood shall bring him birds that sing and trees that do not die.'

03-09-2002, 12:40 AM	#2
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I could go for a pint and a some pipe weed right now.

03-09-2002, 01:05 AM	#3
Varda-Me Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 40	Well, they may not have mentioned ale specifically, but I'm sure there was plenty at Bilbo's party......

03-09-2002, 06:11 PM	#8
crickhollow The Buckleberry Fairy/Captain Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington State again (I miss Texas). Posts: 1,345	farmer maggot served the four hobbits beer, didn't he? I left my copy of the Fellowship at home! pouts __________________ A day will come at last when I Shall take the hidden paths that run West of the Moon, East of the Sun.

03-10-2002, 03:01 AM	#9
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	I think that all the regions of the Shire had there own slightly different vintage. Welcome to the moot, Crickhollow!

04-17-2002, 12:31 PM	#10
TomFoolOfATook Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dale Posts: 49	Best Beer Hobbits Drunk (shiver) __________________ Pieces of Eight the search for the money tree go cash your freedoms in for gold Pieces of Eight Treasure filled with emphtiness dont let it turn your heart to stone

04-17-2002, 02:44 PM	#12
Elfhelm Marshal of the Eastmark Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,412	In fact, if you check some phonebooks in Kentucky where they grow a lot of tobacco and use hobbittish expressions, you will find names like Baggins and Took. Why? Because once Prof Tolkien had a student from Kentucky whose ways were so interesting that he spent time listening to him tell stories of home, while sitting together smoking pipes. My source is Guy Davenport, Geography of the Imagination. __________________ cya

04-18-2002, 07:02 PM	#14
Elfhelm Marshal of the Eastmark Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,412	It was a typo that held you up. Drug References: http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...rug+References __________________ cya

04-18-2002, 07:10 PM	#15
Pailan Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aisle 12, seat#2 Posts: 449	Thanks there, Elfhelm. I suspect my copy and paste method is sloppy as well. __________________ "Holy Entmoot, Batman!" "Who knows, Robin? This strange mixing of minds may be the greatest single sevice ever performed for humanity! Let's go, but, inconspicuosly, through the window. We'll use our Batropes. Our job is finished." Oh, btw, Frodo lives.

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