faramir not in rotk enough! - Page 2

Aden · 01-08-2004, 03:57 AM

Faramir not only wasn't enough in ROTK but I have the impression that he was persented weaker than he really is. I mean, he doesn't seem to do much. IMO PJ should spend more time in showing how Faramir and his men resisted the forces of Mordor.

**Nurvingiel** · 01-08-2004, 04:02 AM

And more importantly, that Faramir said he could take the Ring, but said immediately after that he wouldn't. He didn't take Frodo on Sam on a ridiculous, time-wasting trip to Ithilien.

***Earniel*** · 01-08-2004, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Isil Fallasion
I think, if they include the bit about the king's ability to heal, that instead of taking time to find a new sapling of the tree(which I did think was a very good scene in the book), they would have that somehow "heal" the tree as well. It's a similar idea just portrayed in a different manner.

Good idea, if there is an added scene about the tree, it would probably be that. (Though the original scene where Aragorn finds the new sapling will be missed. *sigh*)

By the way, welcome to the Entmoot.

Anglorfin · 01-09-2004, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by Aden
Faramir not only wasn't enough in ROTK but I have the impression that he was persented weaker than he really is. I mean, he doesn't seem to do much. IMO PJ should spend more time in showing how Faramir and his men resisted the forces of Mordor.

That is something that bothered me too. They didn't make Faramir "noble" enough in my opinion. Faramir was more like a neutral character, plus I think the portrayal of Denethor as some crazy guy and the lust of Boromir for the ring further weakens Faramir's character to the movie audience. If Faramir's character doesn't leave an outstanding impression by itself, they those things will surely give the viewer the opinion that the whole house of the Stewards was a bunch of paranoid maniacs.

Millane · 01-09-2004, 02:21 AM

Faramir and his soldiers going back to osgiliath was a perfect scene, flawless... i dont care if Faramir is a more important character to the story, in the movies Eomer is better

Thorin II · 01-09-2004, 05:09 PM

I don't know if I'd say they made Faramir appear weak, but they definitely didn't show enough of his efforts to stem the tide. I do think his nobility was evident (especially in TTT: EE and ROTK).

ethuiliel · 01-09-2004, 09:16 PM

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And more importantly, that Faramir said he could take the Ring, but said immediately after that he wouldn't. He didn't take Frodo on Sam on a ridiculous, time-wasting trip to Ithilien.

That is one of the things I like the most about Faramir.

littleCat · 01-12-2004, 12:11 AM

Faramir did not get the screen time he deserved, and did not come off as noble as he did in the books.

ethuiliel · 01-12-2004, 06:12 PM

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Faramir did not get the screen time he deserved, and did not come off as noble as he did in the books.

He most definetly did not. In the books he was a distinctive character, noble and wise. He was himself, not a major character, but not a minor character either. He had distict personality traits that made him special. In the movies, there is nothing distinctive about him, he is no better than any other human, and does nothing to make you take notice of his character.

Aden · 01-13-2004, 01:06 AM

And Faramir's preference in Gandalf, I believe, wasn't obvious

01-09-2004, 02:21 AM	#25
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	Faramir and his soldiers going back to osgiliath was a perfect scene, flawless... i dont care if Faramir is a more important character to the story, in the movies Eomer is better __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

01-09-2004, 05:09 PM	#26
Thorin II Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 161	I don't know if I'd say they made Faramir appear weak, but they definitely didn't show enough of his efforts to stem the tide. I do think his nobility was evident (especially in TTT: EE and ROTK). __________________ "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

01-12-2004, 12:11 AM	#28
littleCat Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LVA!!!! Posts: 122	Faramir did not get the screen time he deserved, and did not come off as noble as he did in the books. __________________ "May the flying Hamster of DOOM rain coconuts on your pathetic city!" "I'm not weird, I'm GIFTED!" I'm really okay.......

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01-08-2004, 03:57 AM	#21
Aden Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 123	Faramir not only wasn't enough in ROTK but I have the impression that he was persented weaker than he really is. I mean, he doesn't seem to do much. IMO PJ should spend more time in showing how Faramir and his men resisted the forces of Mordor.

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Aden Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 123	And Faramir's preference in Gandalf, I believe, wasn't obvious