Favorite Maiar

Arien the Maia · 01-04-2004, 01:08 AM

since there is already a thread about everyone's favorite Vala...who is everyon'e favorite Maia?

Mine are Arien (obviously!) and Sauron (in his form of Annatar)

***Earniel*** · 01-04-2004, 06:05 AM

That's easy. Uinen without a doubt.

In fact, I like her better than most Valar.

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...Uinen, the Lady of the Seas, whose hair lies spread through all waters under sky. All creatures she loves that live in the salt streams, and all weeds that grow there; to her mariners cry, for she can lay calm upon the waves, restraining the wildness of Ossë. The Númenóreans lived long in her protection, and held her in reverence equal to the Valar.

Falagar · 01-04-2004, 06:41 AM

Ossë, Uinen (Ulmo is my favorite Vala

) and Olorin; Olorin is perhaps the absolute favorite.

Aden · 01-04-2004, 07:26 AM

Olorin, definitely!!!!!!!!!!

Dúnedain · 01-04-2004, 05:59 PM

Olórin for me as well

Captain Stern · 01-05-2004, 03:34 PM

Huan and Thorondor. Neither were ever stated to be Maiar, I know, but Tolkien never said they weren't either. I think they must have been, myself...

Anglorfin · 01-07-2004, 09:56 AM

Oi. I second that, Stern. if Huan was indeed Maiar then he would be #1 on my list. But seeing as there is no proof I'm going to have to stick with the definite Olorin. And then Eonwe, the Herald of Manwe.

brownjenkins · 01-07-2004, 10:34 AM

Tom Bombadil... though i guess i might be in for and argument on that one

Elf Girl · 01-07-2004, 09:55 PM

Were any of Estë's Maiar named?

Arien the Maia · 01-07-2004, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by Elf Girl
Were any of Estë's Maiar named?

Wasn't Melian a Maia of Estë?

Wayfarer · 01-08-2004, 12:10 AM

I believe Melian was one of Varda's handmaidens, but she spent a lot of time in Lorien, which was of course Este's garden.

Arien the Maia · 01-08-2004, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
I believe Melian was one of Varda's handmaidens, but she spent a lot of time in Lorien, which was of course Este's garden.

Melian served both Vana and Este according to the Silmarillion

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Melian was the name of a Maia who served both Vana and Este; she dwelt long in Lorien tending the trees that flower in the gardens of Irmo....The Silmarillion, Valaquenta.

Aden · 01-08-2004, 04:18 AM

I've had this discussion before but there have always been a lot of different opinions: who do you think was the most powerfull Maia (overall)??

Arien the Maia · 01-08-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Aden
I've had this discussion before but there have always been a lot of different opinions: who do you think was the most powerfull Maia (overall)??

probably Sauron (because of Morgoth) and perhaps Eonwe?....I don't know, Arien was pretty powerful

Anglorfin · 01-08-2004, 12:14 PM

It would have been cool to see a real Maiar battle. I suspect that Eonwe was the most powerful, at least until Sauron came to power as a sorceror under Morgoth. Either way it was never really known who was the most powerful Maiar. Melian was more of a sorceress type so she could be the strongest besides Sauron in that respect. Perhaps Osse, I always thought of him as quite powerful. But I am sure there are other powerful Maiar that were not specifically named. Maybe some of Tulkas' or Orome's followers . . .

Aden · 01-08-2004, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Arien the Maia
probably Sauron (because of Morgoth) and perhaps Eonwe?....I don't know, Arien was pretty powerful

I think Eonwe was the best in weapon skill. While Olorin is the wisest ( at least one of the wisest). But then again Sauron was very strong and intelligent (in a more wicked way). That's why I cannot decide who was the most powerfull considering all of his powers

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It would have been cool to see a real Maiar battle

Yes that would answer many of my questions

Arien the Maia · 01-08-2004, 11:26 PM

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It would have been cool to see a real Maiar battle

technically when Gandalf and the Balrog "battle" that would be considered a fight between 2 Maiar right? Evern though gandalf didn't use all his powers.

Aden · 01-08-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Arien the Maia
technically when Gandalf and the Balrog "battle" that would be considered a fight between 2 Maiar right? Evern though gandalf didn't use all his powers.

Yes, that's true. But then again who was the most powerfull since they both died (if we can use this term for the Maiar, since they don't actually disappear)? Only Gandalf was sent back to fulfil his cause...

Arien the Maia · 01-09-2004, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Aden
Yes, that's true. But then again who was the most powerfull since they both died (if we can use this term for the Maiar, since they don't actually disappear)? Only Gandalf was sent back to fulfil his cause...

my vote goes to Gandalf since the Balrog "died" first

Dúnedain · 01-09-2004, 12:51 AM

Eonwe is regarded as the most powerful and Sauron is regarded as the mightiest, at least from what I've read

Therefore it would be Sauron...

I agree with Arien that Eonwe was the most powerful, but in the sense of fighting.

That is where the might of Sauron comes in, he is the mightiest at it all, in the bigger picture of things...

01-04-2004, 06:41 AM	#3
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Ossë, Uinen (Ulmo is my favorite Vala ) and Olorin; Olorin is perhaps the absolute favorite. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

01-04-2004, 05:59 PM	#5
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	Olórin for me as well __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

01-05-2004, 03:34 PM	#6
Captain Stern Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 319	Huan and Thorondor. Neither were ever stated to be Maiar, I know, but Tolkien never said they weren't either. I think they must have been, myself... __________________ Then hate overcame Fëanor's fear, and he cursed Melkor and bade him be gone, saying 'Get thee gone from my gate, thou jail-crow of Mandos!' And he shut the doors of his house in the face of the mightiest of all dwellers in Eä.

01-07-2004, 09:56 AM	#7
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	Oi. I second that, Stern. if Huan was indeed Maiar then he would be #1 on my list. But seeing as there is no proof I'm going to have to stick with the definite Olorin. And then Eonwe, the Herald of Manwe. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

01-07-2004, 10:34 AM	#8
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	Tom Bombadil... though i guess i might be in for and argument on that one __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

01-04-2004, 01:08 AM	#1
Arien the Maia Fëanáro's Fire Mistress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 1,423	Favorite Maiar since there is already a thread about everyone's favorite Vala...who is everyon'e favorite Maia? Mine are Arien (obviously!) and Sauron (in his form of Annatar)

01-04-2004, 07:26 AM	#4
Aden Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 123	Olorin, definitely!!!!!!!!!!

01-07-2004, 09:55 PM	#9
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Were any of Estë's Maiar named? __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

01-08-2004, 12:10 AM	#11
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I believe Melian was one of Varda's handmaidens, but she spent a lot of time in Lorien, which was of course Este's garden. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-08-2004, 04:18 AM	#13
Aden Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 123	I've had this discussion before but there have always been a lot of different opinions: who do you think was the most powerfull Maia (overall)??

01-08-2004, 12:14 PM	#15
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	It would have been cool to see a real Maiar battle. I suspect that Eonwe was the most powerful, at least until Sauron came to power as a sorceror under Morgoth. Either way it was never really known who was the most powerful Maiar. Melian was more of a sorceress type so she could be the strongest besides Sauron in that respect. Perhaps Osse, I always thought of him as quite powerful. But I am sure there are other powerful Maiar that were not specifically named. Maybe some of Tulkas' or Orome's followers . . . __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

01-09-2004, 12:51 AM	#20
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	Eonwe is regarded as the most powerful and Sauron is regarded as the mightiest, at least from what I've read Therefore it would be Sauron... I agree with Arien that Eonwe was the most powerful, but in the sense of fighting. That is where the might of Sauron comes in, he is the mightiest at it all, in the bigger picture of things... __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

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