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Old 10-15-2003, 02:47 PM   #1
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Survey For Canadians

this is for my CDN/US Relations class. if some of y'all from the "true north, strong and free" would fill this out, that would be super!


Survey of Canadian Attitudes Towards the United States
1. What is your citizenship?
2. Who is Canada's principle trading parter?
3. When you thing of the United States, what word comes to your mind?
4. It has been said that "Canadian's are just Americans who live north of the 49th parallel."
Agree_______
Disagree_______
5. Do you regard Americans as:
Friendly________
Snobbish________
Aloof__________
Other ___________
6. Would you characterize Canada-U.S. relations as:
Friendly________
Tense _______
Irritating_________
Other _________
7. What is NAFTA?
8. Does the United States contribute to the defense of Canada?
Yes_______
How? (be as specific as you can_ _____________________________

No _________
Should they? ___________
How?______________________________________________ _______

9. Who is the United States' current President?
10. What is the most important reason for why you would visit United States?
11. What is the most significant issue that you think may affect Canada-U.S. relations?
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Old 10-15-2003, 05:53 PM   #2
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Survey of Canadian Attitudes Towards the United States
1. What is your citizenship? Um...I'm a Candian?
2. Who is Canada's principle trading parter? The US? I dunno...
3. When you thing of the United States, what word comes to your mind? "Proud".
4. It has been said that "Canadian's are just Americans who live north of the 49th parallel."
Disagree
5. Do you regard Americans as:
Other: nice enough, but too proud sometimes
6. Would you characterize Canada-U.S. relations as:
Friendly
7. What is NAFTA? Um...Norman's Apples Forget Their Attributes?
8. Does the United States contribute to the defense of Canada?
No
Should they? I guess, but only when we really need them.
How? Er...fly in with those big bombs that they used to kill the Canadian soldiers.

9. Who is the United States' current President? George W. Bush
10. What is the most important reason for why you would visit United States? I really don't know.
11. What is the most significant issue that you think may affect Canada-U.S. relations? The US could stop making fun of us in their TV shows, and the Canadians could be less anti-American (yes, a lot of us are).
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Old 10-15-2003, 06:20 PM   #3
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1. What is your citizenship?
Canadian

2. Who is Canada's principle trading parter?
Principal trading partner, and it's very clearly the U.S. Now buy our bloody beef!

3. When you thing of the United States, what word comes to your mind?
Superpower

4. It has been said that "Canadian's are just Americans who live north of the 49th parallel."
Disagree (I'm actually in the middle ground here, but there were only two choices)

5. Do you regard Americans as:
Other. I don't think it's fair to regard the people of any one nation as "insert adjective here".

6. Would you characterize Canada-U.S. relations as:
Other. That is, sinusoidal. It depends who's in office in either country.

7. What is NAFTA?
An underappreciated Good Thing, although free trade on a global level (as opposed to continental zones and blocs) would be far preferable.

8. Does the United States contribute to the defense of Canada?
Yes and no. Theoretically, in their role as the only practical military guarantor of global security, of course. Nobody would touch Canada for the same reason they wouldn't touch a lot of countries out there. It's because the U.S. makes up the brunt of the contribution to NATO and the UN (and in some aspects, has almost unilateral sway over the actions of one or the other). At the same time, there is no direct contribution here - the closest we get to that is NORAD, which is also in part a Canadian contribution to the United States.

9. Who is the United States' current President?
George W. Bush

10. What is the most important reason for why you would visit United States?
As a tourist, it would be for their history, particularly on the East Coast. Although business is not a factor for me personally, I must mention it as a pretty huge one. There's also the business with lining up for Star Wars Episode III in California for a month or two once 2005 rolls around.

11. What is the most significant issue that you think may affect Canada-U.S. relations?
The U.S.' relationship to the international community in terms of multilateral vs. unilateral action, and how Canada responds to that. I would say that both the Bush and Chretien governments behaved foolishly during the Iraq question last spring. Also, there is a tremendous amount of irrational, incensed hatred for Americans among some Canadians I know, for stupid and misunderstood reasons related to this - and perhaps vice versa. Second to this, the big issue would be Alberta beef.
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Old 10-15-2003, 06:24 PM   #4
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and the Canadians could be less anti-American (yes, a lot of us are).
Well at least there is some admitting there.

And Crickhollow - "the strong and free" is the United States you're still under the British Crown - so how truly free are you? Sorry - just couldn't resist - you can continue on with your little Canadian survey.

Just kidding
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The British Crown has no more power here than it does in its own country, where Parliament makes all the decisions. The Governor General is theoretically a final check/balance on the Prime Minister, but considering the the PM is involved in the GG's appointment, this doesn't amount to much.

As for anti-Americanism here - well, I've met some people up here who hate you guys. They just plain hate you. In many ways, it's stupid, and a lot of this is often based on a mistaken or misrepresented information. But conversely, this also tends to bring to light some valid next-door-neighbour criticisms of the U.S. that tend to get lost amidst the patriotic fervour south of the border.

A curious incident was how last March, the (ultra-conservative) Premier of Alberta tried to pass a declaration that the people of the province supported the war on Iraq - while the (ultra-liberal) University of Alberta's Students' Union tried to pass a declaration stating that the student body opposed the war entirely. Both of them were, of course, completely wrong (and silly). There is no consensus here. But there is extremism of belief.
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Old 10-15-2003, 07:05 PM   #6
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Re: Survey For Canadians

Survey of Canadian Attitudes Towards the United States
1. What is your citizenship?
Canadian
2. Who is Canada's principle trading parter?
the States
3. When you thing of the United States, what word comes to your mind?
Armed
4. It has been said that "Canadian's are just Americans who live north of the 49th parallel."
Disagree
5. Do you regard Americans as:
Sometimes Arrogant
6. Would you characterize Canada-U.S. relations as:
OK, Could be better
7. What is NAFTA?
Norht American Free Trade Agreement
8. Does the United States contribute to the defense of Canada?
Yes, they use there armed forces to keep both lands here safe
9. Who is the United States' current President?
Geoarge Bush jr.
10. What is the most important reason for why you would visit United States?
Visit Relatives
11. What is the most significant issue that you think may affect Canada-U.S. relations?
Stereotypes
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Old 10-15-2003, 07:12 PM   #7
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Re: Survey For Canadians

1. What is your citizenship?
-Canadian
2. Who is Canada's principle trading parter?
-United States
3. When you thing of the United States, what word comes to your mind?
-Umm... neighbor?
4. It has been said that "Canadian's are just Americans who live north of the 49th parallel."
-Disagree
5. Do you regard Americans as:
-Friendly (most of theme anyhow)
6. Would you characterize Canada-U.S. relations as:
-Friendly
7. What is NAFTA?
-Well, NAFTA means the 'North American Free Trade Agreement' if thats what your asking
8. Does the United States contribute to the defense of Canada?
-Yes
How? (be as specific as you can) By uhh.... Well, no ones going to come onto Canada because it will affect America (I think) and we have a big undeffended border between us so..... yah.
9. Who is the United States' current President?
-George W. Bush
10. What is the most important reason for why you would visit United States?
-Well, probably just as a tourist.
11. What is the most significant issue that you think may affect Canada-U.S. relations?
-Trade?
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Old 10-15-2003, 08:15 PM   #8
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Re: Survey For Canadians

1. What is your citizenship? Canadian..or both...I guess..
2. Who is Canada's principle trading parter? The US?
3. When you thing of the United States, what word comes to your mind? pompous
4. It has been said that "Canadian's are just Americans who live north of the 49th parallel." very much disagree
5. Do you regard Americans as: Friendly and snobbish
6. Would you characterize Canada-U.S. relations as:
eh, friendly....kinda....kinda not
7. What is NAFTA? North....er...american free..trade...something...
8. Does the United States contribute to the defense of Canada?
I dont think so, and I hope not
9. Who is the United States' current President? Dubya
10. What is the most important reason for why you would visit United States? I live here right now, other than that
11. What is the most significant issue that you think may affect Canada-U.S. relations? I kinda agree with durin's bane.....im trying my hardest!
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The British Crown has no more power here than it does in its own country, where Parliament makes all the decisions. The Governor General is theoretically a final check/balance on the Prime Minister, but considering the the PM is involved in the GG's appointment, this doesn't amount to much.
I am aware of the role of the crown in BOTH countries.
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As for anti-Americanism here - well, I've met some people up here who hate you guys. They just plain hate you. In many ways, it's stupid, and a lot of this is often based on a mistaken or misrepresented information. But conversely, this also tends to bring to light some valid next-door-neighbour criticisms of the U.S. that tend to get lost amidst the patriotic fervour south of the border.
I don't see anything wrong with our patriotism. YOu have Canadian pride - we have American pride. It's their problem if they can't accept it. As for the criticism - mostly it's because of ignorance or because they have a difference of opinion in our policies. Just because a country disagrees with the United States - doesn't mean the United States should do what they want. Some people seem to forget that. [EDIT] Right now Canada is liberalizing their drug laws (marijuana) and the US isn't happy. Does that mean you won't do what you want because we disagree with you?
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A curious incident was how last March, the (ultra-conservative) Premier of Alberta tried to pass a declaration that the people of the province supported the war on Iraq - while the (ultra-liberal) University of Alberta's Students' Union tried to pass a declaration stating that the student body opposed the war entirely. Both of them were, of course, completely wrong (and silly). There is no consensus here. But there is extremism of belief.
Simalar things happened here. During the Iraq War many towns and colleges declared they were against the war. However - one town by me, Montgomery, refused to take issue stating that the job of the town council was to work on town issues, not waste time debating the merits of a war.
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I don't see anything wrong with our patriotism. YOu have Canadian pride - we have American pride. It's their problem if they can't accept it. As for the criticism - mostly it's because of ignorance or because they have a difference of opinion in our policies. Just because a country disagrees with the United States - doesn't mean the United States should do what they want. Some people seem to forget that. [EDIT] Right now Canada is liberalizing their drug laws (marijuana) and the US isn't happy. Does that mean you won't do what you want because we disagree with you?
I'm not saying patriotism is a bad thing. I encourage it, though I know some people who opposed nationalism in all its forms (in their own country or otherwise). But there's a difference between patriotism as a concept (good thing) and the consequences of how a few bad apples in your community act based on patriotism (like those idiots dumping French wine on the streets).

I don't think anybody here is under the illusion that their criticisms of U.S. policies are going to get you guys to actually change anything. I was more referring to it in terms of awareness; by not living in your country, your policies are more transparent in a way. And our policies are probably more transparent to you guys too, because you're not affected by the Canadian pride factor. Also, you'd be amazed at how often "don't strain relations with the U.S." is cited as the major (and in my opinion, the most important) argument of the anti-marijuana camp.

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Simalar things happened here. During the Iraq War many towns and colleges declared they were against the war. However - one town by me, Montgomery, refused to take issue stating that the job of the town council was to work on town issues, not waste time debating the merits of a war.
Three cheers for Montgomery's town council for being sensible.
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...the consequences of how a few bad apples in your community act based on patriotism (like those idiots dumping French wine on the streets).
I don't see anything wrong with the dumping of French wine - they bought the wine they can dump it if they want. I just wouldn't buy French products and it will be a while before I go to France - although I am currently taking French. Anyway, the dumping of french wine is nothing like the repeated McDonalds being ransacked in France or the demonstrations that went on against Euro Disneyland. Many people do that against the US - and no one says it's stupid - when Americans turn the tables and give the rest of the world it's own medicine - it's wrong.
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Many people do that against the US - and no one says it's stupid - when Americans turn the tables and give the rest of the world it's own medicine - it's wrong.
Actually, I'd say that their actions over there (especially the desecration of war graves, which to me is worse than flag-burning) is even stupider, for all the same foundational reasons. I don't think that justifies citizens of the U.S. (or any other country for that matter) doing the same.

One thing I think we can agree on, though, is a lot of people pick on you guys simply because you're big and strong.
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Actually, I'd say that their actions over there (especially the desecration of war graves, which to me is worse than flag-burning) is even stupider, for all the same foundational reasons. I don't think that justifies citizens of the U.S. (or any other country for that matter) doing the same.
You forgot the red paint they poured on the replica Statue of Liberty that they have there.

By the way - i don't care if people burn our flag. I for one am against a Constitutional amendment to protect the flag from burning. I think it is free speech. That does not mean however that I will agree with the flag burners opinions. I just support their right to burn the flag.
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One thing I think we can agree on, though, is a lot of people pick on you guys simply because you're big and strong.
I do agree. I think a lot of people would feel a lot different if the US just picked up and left the world stage and let the world fend for itself. Right now - we are the mightiest nation in the world - but we're no WWII Germany or Hitler regime like many people have equated us to (going by the many anti-american banners in the demonstrations).
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Take a real language, by the way I've been taking Italian the past 7 weeks
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Take a real language, by the way I've been taking Italian the past 7 weeks
Oh - I'm taking Italian at the same time as French. Tuesday is my French class - Wednesday is my Italian.

I've studied in school - Spanish and French; on my own - Italian, French, Latin, Russian (and I just started looking at Swedish - but haven't done anything with that yet, not a lot of Swedish books ). Now I am taking a night class for French and Italian.

Sorry Crickhollow - I didn't mean to hijack the thread on you.
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I'll just ditto Iron Parrots, except for

#10- Reason to visit: music.

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#3:When you think of the United States, what word comes to your mind; as a free association-type answer: freedom
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For #4 : " Canadians are just Americans who live north of the 49th parallel

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"Still, there is no doubting the decline of conventional religious belief and practice in Canada. Three in five Canadians reported that they attended church regularly in the mid 1950s; now that's just one in five. In this, Canadian attitudes have been diverging from American views for the past half century, as I document in my new book Fire and Ice: The United States, Canada and the Myth of Converging Values. American religiosity has remained constant (and high) at least since the mid-1930s, when pioneering U.S. pollster George Gallup first began interviewing random samples of his fellow citizens on the subject. About 45 per cent of Americans reported attending a religious service each week in the mid-1930s and that figure has not altered significantly to this day. A Pew/Environics research poll conducted in 2002 found that religion is important to 59 per cent of Americans but only 30 per cent of Canadians.

More significantly, the nature of the religiosity of Canadians and Americans has diverged over the decades. Environics research finds about 33 per cent of Americans (representing 43 per cent of Christians) to be fundamentalist in orientation, that is, believing in the literal interpretation of the Bible. The figure in Canada is only 14 per cent (representing 20 per cent of Christians in the country). The evolution of Canadian Christianity to a more liberal, open, inclusive and less judgmental spiritual quest contrasts with the more conservative, closed, and dogmatic orientation south of the border. Canada's values orientation has tended toward "both/and" while in the United States, it's more "either/or."

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These divergent religious and moral attitudes are reflected in the changing orientation to other traditional institutions and authorities, including that most familiar of authority figures -- dad.

Canadians have brought their questioning of traditional authority right into the home and are far less likely than Americans to agree with the statement: "The father of the family must be master in his own home." A 1992 Environics poll found that 26 per cent of Canadians believed that "father must be master" (down from 42 per cent in 1983). That same year, 42 per cent of Americans told us dad should be on top.

Since then, the gap has widened: down to 18 per cent in Canada in 2000, and up to 49 per cent in the U.S. in that year. As Canadians become ever less deferential to patriarchal authority, Americans are becoming more and more willing to see if dad says it's okay to watch The Simpsons.

Quebeckers are the North Americans least likely to think that father should be master (15 per cent). In more conservative Alberta, the figure is 21 per cent, the highest in Canada. In the United States, the proportion supporting traditional patriarchy ranges from a low of 29 per cent in liberal New England, to a high of 71 per cent in the Deep South. Religiosity and deference to patriarchal authority reinforce each other.
(It's from the Globe and Mail, August 15th "The Word, Unheeded" but I missed saving the URL)
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BTW, IronParrot, I haven't been following the Alberta/Mad Cow issue too closely (i.e. at all) .

What's the beef?
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1. Citizenship - Canadian!
2. United States of America of course.
3. Iggnorant
4. Disagree, if Canadians were just Americans north of the 49th parallel we wouldn't be reconognized all around the world for our strengths and such!
5. Other, self centered.
6. Other, friendly at times other times we can't see eye to eye, stupid prime minister someone kill the bastard!
7. NAFTA? hmm North American Free Trade Agreement
8. Yes, because we have no army, no offense to us but we don't and if someone bombs canada, The usa marches in and blows them to smithereens!
9. i think it's Somebody Bush?
10. Reason i would visit the USA hmm vacation, honeymoon when i get married, to travel, and maybe to go to a school, but i need a citizenship there then don't i?
11. OUR PRIME MINISTER, the stupid idiot, get him out of our parlament and we'll be fine!
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