Female rulers of the Kingdoms in Exile.

afro-elf · 08-12-2003, 11:47 PM

Numenor had a few ruling queens but, I do not recall any in the Arnor or Gondor. Was there always a male heir?

What if a female was 1st born in Numenor or ME.

Lefty Scaevola · 08-13-2003, 12:42 AM

No female rulers for either Arnor or Gondor. Arvudui of Arnor/Arthedain made a claim (in addition to one made for himself) to the throne of Gondor for his wife Firiel the daughter and only surviving child of of Ondoher king of Gondor, who died with sons in battle, citing the law of Numenor. The council of Gondor rejected the claim stating that in Gondor the kingship was reckoned through sons only.
In Numenor the law was different at first but eventually became that the eldest child of either sex got the throne, however, female heirs with younger brothers usually refused the scepter.

afro-elf · 08-13-2003, 11:28 PM

Thanks.

08-12-2003, 11:47 PM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Female rulers of the Kingdoms in Exile. Numenor had a few ruling queens but, I do not recall any in the Arnor or Gondor. Was there always a male heir? What if a female was 1st born in Numenor or ME. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

08-13-2003, 12:42 AM	#2
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	No female rulers for either Arnor or Gondor. Arvudui of Arnor/Arthedain made a claim (in addition to one made for himself) to the throne of Gondor for his wife Firiel the daughter and only surviving child of of Ondoher king of Gondor, who died with sons in battle, citing the law of Numenor. The council of Gondor rejected the claim stating that in Gondor the kingship was reckoned through sons only. In Numenor the law was different at first but eventually became that the eldest child of either sex got the throne, however, female heirs with younger brothers usually refused the scepter. Last edited by Lefty Scaevola : 08-13-2003 at 11:31 PM.

08-13-2003, 11:28 PM	#3
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Thanks. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

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