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06-13-2003, 11:25 PM
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Sapling
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Dispise StarWars comparision
Just something that has been annoying me, When people compare the Lord of the Rings to Star Wars.
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06-14-2003, 12:00 AM
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the dumb stoner canuck
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in what way though
 they are both different things. one is about space the other is aboout medieval/fantasy adventure
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06-14-2003, 12:31 PM
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i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask
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i like star wars. why does it bother you when you compare them? sometimes its just a fun thing for bored people to find ridiculus parallels between movies.
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06-14-2003, 02:07 PM
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Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster
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I'm curious, as well. Both are epic fantasies. And I'm also curious as to why you put this in the movie forum, rather than the book...
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06-14-2003, 02:45 PM
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i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask
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probably cause the star wars trilogy was a movie series befoer it was a book series. and the star wars books are stupid for the most part. or i could be wrong....
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06-14-2003, 03:10 PM
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Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster
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Actually, I think the Star Wars Trilogy books were published c. the same time as the Star Wars movies came out.
And the Lord of the Rings was a book before it was a trilogy of movies. Which it isn't even that. Because those movies ain't Lord of the Rings. 
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06-14-2003, 03:23 PM
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Elven Warrior
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Can't say I get too het up about it. I loved the first three Star War movies (far better than the Star Wars books) and I'd be happy watching them several times over. But they are different from and (in my opinion) not a patch on LoTR's (both the books and the movies). I don't take offence at any comparisons, particularly as LoTR's will always come off best
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06-15-2003, 01:42 PM
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hmmm... I just don't see the similarity between the two.
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06-15-2003, 04:29 PM
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Alasailon
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We call all compare them. But I think he's talking about making comparisons out of ignorance. Or worse yet, thinking that PJ got certain ideas from StarWars ::shudder::
[edit]For the record, I have talked to someone that was talking like that.[/edit]
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06-15-2003, 06:38 PM
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I accidentally started comparing the two the last time I watched Star Wars, character wise. I would try and firgure out who each character would be if they were in the Lord of the Rings. It didn't work. But that's what some people do just for fun, or subconciously, like I did. It doesn't bother me.
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06-23-2003, 03:35 PM
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07-24-2003, 10:56 PM
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07-24-2003, 11:19 PM
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the dumb stoner canuck
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they are both great stories and adventures. so i dont have a more favourite
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07-26-2003, 04:02 AM
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like the Star Trek books.
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07-28-2003, 03:22 PM
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Yes, they were just novelizations just like any movie novelizations you see on the shelves.
No, Star Wars is not just "a story about space." It's an important mytho-fantasy creation of its own. I, too, am sick of comparisons - but I think the root cause is that Star Wars and LOTR are having their own renaissances at the same time, and they are the two defining fantasy sagas of our culture. There are indeed thematic similarities and connections that would be worth several intelligent essays. (It is a fact that Star Wars was very, very directly influenced by LOTR.) The comparisons I'm complaining about are people - specifically, people who know nothing about filmmaking as an art form - arguing which one is "better" without adequately supporting their points. This is almost as stupid as "Star Wars vs. Star Trek", about which there was an entire bustling Usenet newsgroup long before most of you even had Internet access, but not quite.
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07-28-2003, 03:24 PM
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The only thing that they have in common is that only one man has created a whole universe, each in his own very special way. George Lucas in movies and Tolkien in books. There is no need to compare them both worlds are really fabulous.
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07-28-2003, 03:27 PM
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Well actually, they have a lot more in common than that, particularly the central motif of the corruption of unrestrained power, etc.
I think it's a very healthy exercise to put them beside each other and discuss them intelligently. It's the "versus" discussions that are totally pointless and just plain stupid.
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07-28-2003, 03:32 PM
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07-30-2003, 09:50 AM
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Enting
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Illiteracy on this site is horrible, eh?
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08-04-2003, 07:37 PM
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Hobbit
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Personally i don't realy like star wars(the new one's that is)
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