Fair Trade

[Legolas_is_fit]

I think its about time we help the people of the 3rd world, by giving them a bit more money, by doing this you can buy fair trade prouducts that cost a bit more than more products, but this makes sure that the growers get at least twice as much money as they did before, it will give them a better life.
So is anyone here with me and going to buy fair trade prouducts.
If anyone agreess with me say why and if you don't say why.
Remember a poorer person can be getting a better life out of a tiny bit ofyour money.

[gimli7410]

they have things like that at save on they add on 2 dollars if you give them the coupon.

[IronParrot]

Legolas_is_fit, I have a number of questions:

- What do you mean by "giving them a bit more money"?

- Are you aware that most, if not all, of this "extra" money for the Third World will be sucked into debt repayments for the First World?

- Are you also aware that as trade barriers continue to collapse, these growers are still going to be crushed on the world market in terms of import and export between nations, regardless of choices at the consumer level?

Ideally, saving the people of the Third World is a good idea and all, but there's a practicality factor to consider.

[Insidious Rex]

Did you know they are selling money with Sadams face on it on Ebay for like $400? At that rate all the Iraqis could become instant millionares considering the exchange rate.

[Legolas_is_fit]

The answer to your questions are No we wont go into dept because its only abou 7p more you have to give,
What i ment by giving them money is that giving them a helping hand its a bit like pocket money really,no they wont get crushed because the barrriers if trading our now relfecting on the growers not the shippers or roasters, so really the barrier of trading has got better.
And saving people of the 3rd world, is a good deed and will get you into heaven.
But I still think that we should all pay that 7p more (ok its about a pound more but nearly everyone can afford that)
sorry I dont know how much a pound is in america.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I believe he was saying that the money would be spent on repaying European debt, not that you will go into debt for paying it.

And saving people of the 3rd world, is a good deed and will get you into heaven.

No it won't.

[Legolas_is_fit]

thats what I ment, Im really tired but we wont have to pay anyone back doent anyone agree with saving peoples lives and letting them live one like a normal happy family??

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Won't have to pay anyone back? What on earth do you mean by that?

And also, we do sponsor a child in India. S Madhavan.

[Legolas_is_fit]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Won't have to pay anyone back? What on earth do you mean by that?
And also, we do sponsor a child in India. S Madhavan.

I thought it would sound smart, but it failed.
In primary school we sponsered a child in bangladesh and now she can go to school.

[congressmn]

Won't have to pay anyone back? What on earth do you mean by that?

And also, we do sponsor a child in India. S Madhavan.


Originally posted by Legolas_is_fit
I thought it would sound smart, but it failed.
In primary school we sponsered a child in bangladesh and now she can go to school.

o cool, ya I come from India.

the country is poor beyond imagination.

Things are improving though, but the damn population is killing the country.

[Legolas_is_fit]

Cool my mate emily has just move some where near Iraq but any way back to the topic

[IronParrot]

Clarification is in order.

I'm not saying that any of us First World countries (I'm from Canada, by the way) are going to be in some sort of crushing debt. Of course not. That's not my point.

My point is that one of the reasons behind the poverty of the Third World is that a lot of the money in Third World countries is being spent on debt repayment, because they still owe First World countries billions and billions, most of which is due to an increasingly crushing interest rate. Giving them more money isn't going to solve a whole lot when that money flows right back.

You say that you sponsored the education of a child in Bangladesh, and that's all good: however, how good is the quality of that education going to be when at the governmental level, they can't fund the schools properly?

On the subject of trade barriers, are you not aware that the trend of free trade agreements in the world over the last decade alone has succeeded mostly in knocking trade barriers down entirely, so the welfare of domestic producers is now secondary to the question of which country sells the cheapest product? How are we to suddenly shift gears, shove globalization back, and put the emphasis of the market back on the growers?

In theory, helping the Third World is good, but in practical terms, such actions are barely making a dent.

[Legolas_is_fit]

At the moment I think we should be helping the cillivilans of Iraq,by giving them food.
But in the future 3rd world countries will be devolped so there will be no need to give them money.

[Lizra]

Bah, humbug!

[Legolas_is_fit]

I think we should start fair trade back up when the war is over or we could just send the money to different places.
I reckon in a 100 years or less all the 3rd world countries will be developed, and some could be more developed than Japan,England,U.S.A etc etc.

[Insidious Rex]

Jenny your compulsion to help the poor is a good one. But there are some basic economic dynamics that make this a lot more difficult then it looks. Best bet is to start with the old saying: Think globally; act locally. Do some volunteer work in a soup kitchen, donate old clothes to a shelter. Something like that. If you are truly noble and willing to do more then why not go to a third world country and get your hands dirty helping out there. We should all do that really. Not only does it help them some but it makes us better people. Education works both ways. Its just very few people actually have the wherewithall to do this kind of thing. Especially when we are comfy just where we are. I should do it too.