Of the Sun and Moon...

Ithilwin · 03-22-2003, 01:34 PM

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The maiden whom the Valar chose from among the Maiar to guide the vessel of the Sun was named Arien, and he that steered the the island of the Moon was Tilion. In the days of the Trees Arien hadtended the golden flowers in the gardens of Vana, and watered them with the bright dews of Laurelin; but Tilion was a hunter of the company of Orome, and he had a silver bow. He was a lover of silver, and when he would rest he forsook the woods of Orome, and going into Lorien he lay in dream by the pools of Este, in Telperion's flickering beams; and he begged to be given the task of tending for ever the last Flower of Silver. Arien the maiden was mightier than he, and she was chosen because she had not feared the heats of Laurelin, and was unhurt by them being from the beginning a spirit of fire, whom Melkor had not deceived nor drawn to his service. Too bright were the eyes of Arien for even the Eldar to look on, and leaving Valinor she forsook the form and raiment which like the Valar she had worn there, and she was as a naked flame, terrible in the fullness of her splendour.

I love this part.I think it's my favourite from the Silmarillion.

Laurus Nobilis · 03-22-2003, 03:34 PM

I love it too!

It's a beautiful part.

There's an older but longer version of it in the first Book of Lost Tales - you might want to check it out if you're interested.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-22-2003, 03:59 PM

I bet I know someone whose favourite part it is too.

Arien the Maia · 03-23-2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I bet I know someone whose favourite part it is too.

Is it me?!

I like that part for all the obvious reasons!

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-23-2003, 12:34 AM

How'd you guess?

Arien the Maia · 03-23-2003, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
How'd you guess?

My foresighted Maia powers!

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-23-2003, 12:43 AM

O, yes, of course. How silly of me.

Ithilwin · 03-23-2003, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by Laurus Nobilis
There's an older but longer version of it in the first Book of Lost Tales - you might want to check it out if you're interested.

I know I've read BoLT 1,though this is much better

Inderjit Sanghera · 03-23-2003, 09:16 AM

It's good, but Tolkine found it 'ridiculous', as he tells us in 'Myths Transformed', HoME 10, in which we can see he was veering away from the idea of the Sun and Moon coming from the Two Trees , disregarding it as a 'Numenorean' myth. (Kind of like the story of the awakening of the Elves on 'Quendi and Eldar', hoME 11 is described as a fairy tale, in which fact is mixed up with myth.)

The BoLT version is O.K, if a little bit 'silly', which is pretty much in accord to a lot of BoLT. Plus Fionwe has the hots for Arien.

Arien the Maia · 03-24-2003, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Inderjit Sanghera
The BoLT version is O.K, if a little bit 'silly', which is pretty much in accord to a lot of BoLT. Plus Fionwe has the hots for Arien.

Well I am pretty firey!

03-22-2003, 03:34 PM	#2
Laurus Nobilis Enting Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 73	I love it too! It's a beautiful part. There's an older but longer version of it in the first Book of Lost Tales - you might want to check it out if you're interested. __________________ "...So the essential Quest started at once. But I met a lot of things on the way that astonished me. Tom Bombadil I knew already; but I had never been to Bree. Strider sitting in the corner at the inn was a shock, and I had no more idea who he was than had Frodo. The Mines of Moria had been a mere name; and of Lothlórien no word had reached my mortal ears till I came there. Far away I knew there were the Horse-lords on the confines of an ancient Kingdom of Men, but Fangorn Forest was an unforeseen adventure." ~ J. R. R. Tolkien

03-22-2003, 03:59 PM	#3
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I bet I know someone whose favourite part it is too. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-23-2003, 12:34 AM	#5
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	How'd you guess? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-23-2003, 12:43 AM	#7
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	O, yes, of course. How silly of me. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-23-2003, 09:16 AM	#9
Inderjit Sanghera Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England. Posts: 260	It's good, but Tolkine found it 'ridiculous', as he tells us in 'Myths Transformed', HoME 10, in which we can see he was veering away from the idea of the Sun and Moon coming from the Two Trees , disregarding it as a 'Numenorean' myth. (Kind of like the story of the awakening of the Elves on 'Quendi and Eldar', hoME 11 is described as a fairy tale, in which fact is mixed up with myth.) The BoLT version is O.K, if a little bit 'silly', which is pretty much in accord to a lot of BoLT. Plus Fionwe has the hots for Arien.