??? Son of Aragorn...

Who was the son of Aragorn. I really need it. Didn't find it in the appendixes. If someone knows, plz tell me!

Aragorn Jr? :lol:

Youll find it in the Appendices under the tale of Arwen and Aragorn, his name was Eldarion.

yeah, i found that too... in the guide.

Robert Foster's guide? A good guide in many respects, but outdated. But doesn't Foster have Eldaron instead of Eldarion? As they both share the same app. meaning it hardly matters, but Eldarion is the correct spelling (the way it was spelled in Appendix A)

My (Foster) edition has Eldarion with meaning "of the Eldar".

However, Imo, the meaning is more likely either "Eldar-son", this possibly combining a plural form with the patronymic suffix ~ion "son of" ... or perhaps "Elda-prince" using a singular form ("prince" actually "crowned one" with a masculine denotation) from hypothetical *Eledá-rigondo.

If you say so! They ought to be giving you the linguistic questions, not me.

'ion' also means 'scion', Ereinion translated as 'scion of kings'.

Quite correct Inoldonil regarding Sindarin Ereinion ~ shows a related sense, "scion" generaly meaning "descendant, child". We also see related senses when comparing " biological" patronymic "Finwion" with example Falassion ~ certainly the meaning in the latter is not literally biological "son of a coast", but more generally "son of" as (perhaps) "one devoted to X" or similar. Cheers~

And also -yon, as in Earendilyon: descendent of Earendil, or: son of E. (in a wider sense; said of all mariners and wanderers (see HoME II)).

[Snowdog]

And there were how many daughters? I need to re-read all this again. And did the daughters have any names? I know there was reference to a few.

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

I remember something about many daughters, but I don't recall them being named. I'll have to check again. . .

[Ñólendil]

All it says is "daughters". There could have been two or fourteen, it's not known (or at least it is not said in the Appendices).

[Starr Polish]

Was Eldarion Aragorn's first child?

[Ñólendil]

That is not known (or it is not known to me). If the Reunited Kingdom of Arnor and Gondor were going by the Númenorean laws, Eldarion would have to be the eldest child in order to succeed his father. But I don't think it's certain they were following that law (I'd like to think so, passing by an elder daughter just seems so unfair, doesn't it?).

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

Originally posted by Ñólendil
(I'd like to think so, passing by an elder daughter just seems so unfair, doesn't it?).

Yes, it does seem unfair

I thought I remembered something about the names or number or something of his daughters. I think I'll look at that again. . .

[Starr Polish]

It only says 'many daughters', I think.

It may seem unfair, but you have to look back on your history. The French, at least as far as my knowledge goes, never allowed a Queen, or female child, to rule, regardless of whether they were born first. If there happened to be no male heirs, cousins, second cousins, and other distant relatives were called upon.

In England, Henry VIII's oldest child was Mary, then Elizabeth, then Edward (we'll leave out Fitzroy, who was, born out of wedlock...I'll not mention the name used for those type of children here). Yet, Edward ruled first after Henry's death.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Unlike customs in the real world, and customs among the Noldor, women of the royal line of the Numenorions were permitted to rule.

[Starr Polish]

But were men favored as rulers over women? I'm not trying to argue, I'm just interested.

[Eruviel Greenleaf]

You'd think they would follow Numenorean law. And I would add, especially seeing as it is more fair (*cough*) although it was not common practice, among the Noldor and the real world. But they probably weren't thinking about that. . .

[Elvellon]

It is known that after Tar-Aldarion (the Sailor, a king of Numenor) made his law of royal succession, the eldest child of the king inherited the throne. Female heirs could abdicate of their rights but male heirs couldn’t (if I remember it right).
In Middle Earth the tradition was different, only male descendents of the kings could inherit the throne. It is possible that king Elessar reverted to the Numenorian tradition, but I believe it is more likely that the Middle Earth tradition was retained (or perhaps Eldarion was the eldest descendent of the king and therefore there never was a reason to consider one tradition over another).