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Old 02-15-2003, 12:13 PM   #1
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Who would you take with you if...

you were heading to Barad-dur to challenge Sauron (wielding the ring) to combat, and you could take two of any characters from any time from Middle-Earth?

I'm sure we all have the same short list of the mighty. My two companions would be:

Gandalf the White- the fact that he is a Maia would be great for intimidation, plus if he was able to defeat a Balrog as the Grey, then picture how mighty he would be in his full wrath as the White.

Feanor- held his own against many Balrogs at the same time, including Gothmog.
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Old 02-15-2003, 01:00 PM   #2
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Gandalf the White and... I don't know about the second person i will have to get back to you on that!
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Old 02-15-2003, 01:06 PM   #3
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I would take Tulkas and Orome. Because they can kill Sauron very easily. (maybe 'kill' is not the right word.)
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Old 02-15-2003, 01:30 PM   #4
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Well if we can bring valar then ill bring Tulkas and eonwe who is not a valar but still the greatest warrior in arms.

If not id bring Fingolfin-he sliced up Morgoth Saurons boss so i think hed make a meal of sauron.

even though another person is not needed i would bring Hurin but give him Narsil to fight with because not only is Hurin the most strongest man but sauron fears the sword narsil.
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Old 02-15-2003, 01:52 PM   #5
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I'd take:

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Old 02-15-2003, 02:03 PM   #6
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Of the Valar, Tulkas and Oromë.

Of the named Maiar, Eönwë and Arien.
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Old 02-15-2003, 03:39 PM   #7
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Well, I guess I should clarify myself. No Valar. That would take the fun out of it!
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Old 02-15-2003, 03:47 PM   #8
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Could I bring two balrogs, but have them be under my domination?
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Old 02-15-2003, 06:44 PM   #9
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Fëanor-We could have a nice chat on the way
Eonwë-He'd be walking in front, in case Sauron was planning an ambush
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Does the Tardis count? No? Oh well, what a boring question then!
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Old 02-15-2003, 09:18 PM   #12
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you were heading to Barad-dur to challenge Sauron (wielding the ring) to combat, and you could take two of any characters from any time from Middle-Earth?
None, because I wouldn't be going -- there are some perils one can only flee from, not try to confront: an F5 tornado, for instance, or Sauron (especially with his Ring on my finger -- no way!).
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Old 02-16-2003, 03:05 PM   #13
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i would take Glorfindal because he killed a balrog and came back from the halls of mandos which is a feat well defeated and Fingolfin he killed Morgoth i think... and plus if he can defeat him than sauron doesnt stand a chance against these two!
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Old 02-16-2003, 03:23 PM   #14
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Old 02-16-2003, 03:39 PM   #15
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i would take Glorfindal because he killed a balrog and came back from the halls of mandos which is a feat well defeated and Fingolfin he killed Morgoth i think... and plus if he can defeat him than sauron doesnt stand a chance against these two!
Fingolfin didn't kill Morgoth, however he challenged him and cut off his foot (or at least scarred it badly). Fingolfin was killed by Morgoth, but the text did say that Morgoth feared Fingolfin...
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'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 02-16-2003, 03:44 PM   #16
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oops well i guess i need to read up again on that!
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Old 02-16-2003, 08:33 PM   #17
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Fingolfin didn't kill Morgoth, however he challenged him and cut off his foot (or at least scarred it badly).
He wounded Morgoth with seven wounds that never healed.

Even though it has been clarified to mean none Vala I will restrict my choice to none Ainu.

Fingolfin and Feanor.

Luthein is half Maia and so I am leaving her out.


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None, because I wouldn't be going -- there are some perils one can only flee from, not try to confront: an F5 tornado, for instance, or Sauron (especially with his Ring on my finger -- no way!).

IF it was within my power to stand against Sauron to rid the world of such evil I would especially if I had F and F by my side.

If Sauron had the ring there would be no place to hide.

As myself now there not much I could probably do.
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Old 02-16-2003, 10:17 PM   #18
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No Maiar either? But that means no Gandalf the White...

Well, then I'd go for the Last Alliance- Elendil and Gil-Galad. At least I'd die in good company!
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Old 02-17-2003, 12:33 AM   #19
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I doubt it's no Ainur period, since the thread starter said Gandalf the White.

Of course, Gandalf himself said that he could not beat him. But that's just by himself.

I would say Gandalf the White and Fingolfin. The Elf who stood against Morgoth himself! And gave him something to remember that the band-aids didn't help!
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Old 02-17-2003, 03:30 PM   #20
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I wouldn't even be in that situation to begin with. I'd just do what Frodo did.
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