Who would be most dangerous with the one ring?

Narsil's Master · 02-02-2003, 03:10 PM

Who do you think would be the most powerfull with the one ring? Personally i would say Gandalf. He has amasing power and decent physycal stength and with the ring he would be unstoppable. Although Gandalf wouldbe stongest I want to see legolas with the ring. He's the coolest.

***azalea*** · 02-02-2003, 03:20 PM

Being cool notwithstanding, I think Sauron would be the strongest with the ring, because it is his personal power that is in the ring, and so under his control that power would be maximized.
BTW, this again is a thread topic that should be in the books forum. Please keep in mind the different forums when you start a thread, and try to determine beforehand where it would be most appropriate. Thanks

. Moving to books.

Guardian_of_the_Forest · 02-02-2003, 06:50 PM

would you really *want* to see someone with the ring? ::shudder:: they may not be able to handle it. Better that Mount Doom has it.

samwise of the shire · 02-02-2003, 07:17 PM

I would say who ever carried it. Why? Because they'd have the CHOICE of what they wanted to do with it, thus deciding the fate of Middle Earth. It just so happens Sauron made it so that it would twist peoples minds...*gasps as eyes get wider and wider then whispers* That lousy, no good spawn of Melkor cheated...not only THAT but he needs a RING to be all powerful...so that brings to my attention those who would not need a measly Ring to kick that inflated Maia's butt into the middle of the next age...two people come to mind. Tom Bombadil and Gandalf.
*Sits in chair and looks around the room with a smile stuck to face) Who IS Tom Bombadil? Did we decide? Personally it think he's Eru cause his place would be the last to be taken,and the Ring had no effect on him.
Cheers,
Sam

eowyngirl14 · 02-02-2003, 08:03 PM

ME! Instead of a dark lord, you would have a queen, bith beautiful and terrible! All would love me and despair! *guess I don't pass the test!*

Uuummm... I would have to go with Sauron!! Or maybe Gandalf...

Tar-Elendil · 02-02-2003, 08:39 PM

I am not sure. Guessing that you mean person/things present in Middle-earth, id have to say one of the maia such as Sauron, Gandalf, or Saruman.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-02-2003, 09:27 PM

um... Sauron.

Actually, anyone who would use it in such a way that Sauron would notice, because then he would get it... or get replaced.

Insidious Rex · 02-02-2003, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by samwise of the shire
It just so happens Sauron made it so that it would twist peoples minds...*gasps as eyes get wider and wider then whispers* That lousy, no good spawn of Melkor cheated...not only THAT but he needs a RING to be all powerful...

Well ok I dont think he made it for the purpose of twisting peoples minds I think thats just the side effect of wearing a weapon designed to be controlled by a god like creature of unmeasurable evil. Of course its going to twist and corrupt weaker creatures. The purpose of the ring of course was to amplify Saurons power and make him all the MORE poweful. He was pretty big time even without the ring.

Quote:

Who IS Tom Bombadil? Did we decide? Personally it think he's Eru cause his place would be the last to be taken,and the Ring had no effect on him.

Ok theres a number of really good reasons why Tom Bombadil could not be Eru but Im betting the moderator doesnt want me getting into that here. So hey find one of the old Tom Bombadil threads and lets go at it....

Renille · 02-02-2003, 11:35 PM

Gollum...just think...a world full of fish and scary people who hate Baginsesss.

Seriously, though, I'm gonna go with Gandalf. He,along with his "forces", outwitted Sauron and his orcs. I take that to mean that he would definitely be stronger and smarter with the ring as well.

Eowyn, Lady of Rohan · 02-03-2003, 04:01 AM

Probably Gandalf. Even though he had the strenth to not take it, he couldn't resist it after he got it most likely.

Quote:

Insted of a dark lord you shall have a queen and i shall be not dark but beautiful and teribble as the dawn!!

Artanis · 02-03-2003, 04:33 AM

I would say Sauron would be the most powerful, because, as azalea said, he made it and put forth his own power into it.

But who would be the most dangerous is another matter. Tolkien made a very interesting point in one of his letters:

Quote:

Gandalf as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. He would have remained 'righteous', but self-righteous. He would have continued to rule and order things for 'good', and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great).
[The draft ends here. In the margin Tolkien wrote: 'Thus while Sauron multiplied [illegible word] evil, he left "good" clearly distinguishable from it. Gandalf would have made good detestable and seem evil.']

I find this to be very true. Wanting to do good is one thing, but what are you to do if you cannot distinguish good from evil?

Insidious Rex · 02-03-2003, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Artanis
Gandalf as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. He would have remained 'righteous', but self-righteous. He would have continued to rule and order things for 'good', and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great).
[The draft ends here. In the margin Tolkien wrote: 'Thus while Sauron multiplied [illegible word] evil, he left "good" clearly distinguishable from it. Gandalf would have made good detestable and seem evil.']
I find this to be very true. Wanting to do good is one thing, but what are you to do if you cannot distinguish good from evil?

Thats very interesting and I wonder what this kind of world would look like. A rule of a supreme power for the good of his subjects who knows whats best for everyone like it or not. Sounds almost classic communist in essence.

WallRocker · 02-03-2003, 11:04 AM

I'd have to go with Gandalf or Saroun. Also, Samwise and Artanis made very good points

Lalaith_Elf · 02-03-2003, 01:18 PM

i would have to say morgoth - if he had the chance. sauron is powerful enough, but imagine if morgoth had got his hands on the ring!!!!!

Helix · 02-03-2003, 02:11 PM

i don't know if having the ring would make morgoth that much more powerful. compared to morgoth, sauron (and thus the ring) are nothing. would'nt his strength max out at some point?

Radagast The Brown · 02-03-2003, 04:25 PM

I think (too) that Sauron, Gandalf or Saruman would be the most dangerous characters with the ring.

Eowyn, Lady of Rohan · 02-03-2003, 05:45 PM

Gaurdian, i don't think i told you how hilarious that post was....Well atleast the mt. doom part!!!

Evenstar1400 · 02-03-2003, 07:08 PM

sauron cause everyone else who had it would just be killed in some way shape or form eventually........ id like to see treebeard using the ring to clean up the forest.... that would be pretty cool

galadriel · 02-03-2003, 08:23 PM

I don't think he would be able to wield it very effectively, but I'd just love to see Feanor with the One Ring. (Ignoring the fact that he's dead, of course.) Can somebody say power trip?

unregistered · 02-04-2003, 09:43 PM

Calvin, I would run with fear if he had it

02-02-2003, 03:10 PM	#1
Narsil's Master Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Indian,USA Posts: 109	Who would be most dangerous with the one ring? Who do you think would be the most powerfull with the one ring? Personally i would say Gandalf. He has amasing power and decent physycal stength and with the ring he would be unstoppable. Although Gandalf wouldbe stongest I want to see legolas with the ring. He's the coolest. __________________ naur an edraith amen, naur dan i ngaurhoth! well your on fire now. go team fencing!!!! fingolfin rox elven sox

02-02-2003, 06:50 PM	#3
Guardian_of_the_Forest Enting Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: A Forgotten Forest Posts: 50	would you really want to see someone with the ring? ::shudder:: they may not be able to handle it. Better that Mount Doom has it. __________________ ~Jennie ~Lossenhyandowen ~Guardian of the Forest

02-02-2003, 07:17 PM	#4
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	I would say who ever carried it. Why? Because they'd have the CHOICE of what they wanted to do with it, thus deciding the fate of Middle Earth. It just so happens Sauron made it so that it would twist peoples minds...gasps as eyes get wider and wider then whispers That lousy, no good spawn of Melkor cheated...not only THAT but he needs a RING to be all powerful...so that brings to my attention those who would not need a measly Ring to kick that inflated Maia's butt into the middle of the next age...two people come to mind. Tom Bombadil and Gandalf. *Sits in chair and looks around the room with a smile stuck to face) Who IS Tom Bombadil? Did we decide? Personally it think he's Eru cause his place would be the last to be taken,and the Ring had no effect on him. Cheers, Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

02-02-2003, 08:03 PM	#5
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	ME! Instead of a dark lord, you would have a queen, bith beautiful and terrible! All would love me and despair! guess I don't pass the test! Uuummm... I would have to go with Sauron!! Or maybe Gandalf... __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

02-02-2003, 08:39 PM	#6
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	I am not sure. Guessing that you mean person/things present in Middle-earth, id have to say one of the maia such as Sauron, Gandalf, or Saruman. __________________ Why can we not be sober..

02-02-2003, 03:20 PM	#2
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	Being cool notwithstanding, I think Sauron would be the strongest with the ring, because it is his personal power that is in the ring, and so under his control that power would be maximized. BTW, this again is a thread topic that should be in the books forum. Please keep in mind the different forums when you start a thread, and try to determine beforehand where it would be most appropriate. Thanks . Moving to books.

02-02-2003, 11:35 PM	#9
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	Gollum...just think...a world full of fish and scary people who hate Baginsesss. Seriously, though, I'm gonna go with Gandalf. He,along with his "forces", outwitted Sauron and his orcs. I take that to mean that he would definitely be stronger and smarter with the ring as well. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

02-03-2003, 11:04 AM	#13
WallRocker Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: At the computer... Posts: 376	I'd have to go with Gandalf or Saroun. Also, Samwise and Artanis made very good points __________________ Do one thing every day that scares you ~Anonymous~ <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><<>< <>< <>< <>< I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America And to the Republic for which it stands One nation UNDER GOD with liberty and justice for all

02-03-2003, 01:18 PM	#14
Lalaith_Elf Her Infernal Majesty Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,188	i would have to say morgoth - if he had the chance. sauron is powerful enough, but imagine if morgoth had got his hands on the ring!!!!! __________________ "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

02-03-2003, 02:11 PM	#15
Helix Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: School! Posts: 107	i don't know if having the ring would make morgoth that much more powerful. compared to morgoth, sauron (and thus the ring) are nothing. would'nt his strength max out at some point? __________________ Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo. -Elvish Greeting

02-03-2003, 04:25 PM	#16
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I think (too) that Sauron, Gandalf or Saruman would be the most dangerous characters with the ring. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

02-03-2003, 05:45 PM	#17
Eowyn, Lady of Rohan The Evil One Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: here, on the moot Posts: 804	Gaurdian, i don't think i told you how hilarious that post was....Well atleast the mt. doom part!!!

02-03-2003, 07:08 PM	#18
Evenstar1400 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the inner depths of my lair. Posts: 421	sauron cause everyone else who had it would just be killed in some way shape or form eventually........ id like to see treebeard using the ring to clean up the forest.... that would be pretty cool __________________ Treebeard: Hmm, you look like hobbits, smell like hobbits, feel like hobbits and sound like hobbits. You must be orcs!

02-03-2003, 08:23 PM	#19
galadriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: a castle made of clouds Posts: 459	I don't think he would be able to wield it very effectively, but I'd just love to see Feanor with the One Ring. (Ignoring the fact that he's dead, of course.) Can somebody say power trip? __________________ Human kind cannot bear very much reality. dreamflower - for all things Lady Galadriel

02-04-2003, 09:43 PM	#20
unregistered Enting Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 85	Calvin, I would run with fear if he had it __________________ www.pbreview.com/forums I'm old Gandalf. I know I don't look it, but I'm beginning to feel it in my heart. I feel...thin, sort of...stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread. I need a holiday, a very long holiday, and I don't expect I shall return. In fact, I mean not to.-Biblo Baggins

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
What All Was Wrong with PJ's LOTR	Wally	Lord of the Rings Movies	425	08-14-2016 08:43 AM
How to take a Ring from an unwilling Ring-wielder? - crazy ideas	Gordis	Middle Earth	217	10-03-2013 03:43 PM
Stranger than fiction... Real "Rings"	frodosampippinmerry	Lord of the Rings Books	15	03-09-2009 07:55 PM
Ring's sentience and Ring detection	Gordis	Lord of the Rings Books	17	01-04-2008 09:37 AM
Why did the Ring betray Isildur?	Nurvingiel	Middle Earth	138	12-24-2007 01:52 PM