Who is the strongest character?

Narsil's Master · 02-01-2003, 11:32 PM

I am the strongest! Elves should rule! I claim narsil.

Dúnedain · 02-02-2003, 12:01 AM

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eowyngirl14 · 02-02-2003, 12:01 AM

I think Eowyn is the strongest charecter. Look at all she has been threw and delt with! And yet, she is still able to overcome it all and kill the Witchking and love Faramir? She is the strongest mentally anyway. Gimili is prolly the strongest pysically!

Shadowfax · 02-02-2003, 01:16 AM

eh, I would say Aragorn is strongest physically, being the king and all...

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-02-2003, 01:29 AM

Treebeard is probably the strongest character physically. Gandalf is strongest overall.

Narsil's master, I have no idea what he's about.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-02-2003, 01:33 AM

Out of the Fellowship, Gimli is the strongest physically, but Gandalf is the strongest overall, due to his incredible mental toughness. (And he's not a wuss physically either!)

For just the Hobbits, Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin are probably among the toughest hobbits ever (which would include Bilbo, and many brave hobbits who fought to save the Shire.)

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-02-2003, 01:38 AM

Don't forget Bandobras! Frodo had an extremely tough will; Sam had an indomitable devotion. Merry was cool, and more active. In the books, Pippin seemed to me to be rather ineffective, considering he was a Took. Other than the (relatively) harmless interview with Sauron and a few things at Minas Tirith, there was little he did.

FrodoFriend · 02-02-2003, 12:58 PM

Strongest, how? Physically, mentally, in wisdom or in characterization?

Physically - Treebeard, no question
Mentally - Frodo, the only person who managed to resist the Ring's evil (even if imperfectly)
In Wisdom - Duh, Gandalf
Characterization - Gollum, IMHO

eowyngirl14 · 02-02-2003, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by FrodoFriend
Strongest, how? Physically, mentally, in wisdom or in characterization?

Physically - Treebeard, no question
Mentally - Frodo, the only person who managed to resist the Ring's evil (even if imperfectly)
In Wisdom - Duh, Gandalf
Characterization - Gollum, IMHO

okay... I thought we were just talking about the fellowship!

pkysically: Treebeard, ya Id have to agree with that
mentally/emotionaly: i'm still with Eowyn on this one
wisdom: Gandlaf ya...
charecterization: Aragorn!!! Viggo was perfect!

Insidious Rex · 02-02-2003, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by FrodoFriend
Mentally - Frodo, the only person who managed to resist the Ring's evil (even if imperfectly)

I dont know if you could really say Frodo truly resisted the rings evil because in the end he probably wouldnt have destroyed it when it came down to it. He needed help from Gollum to do that. I think the argument can be made that Sam ultimately is the strongest hobbit in the sense that his simple minded focus on mission and loyalty and doing the right thing allows the quest to be completed. And allows him to go down in hobbit lore as probably the most respected hobbit. While the effect of the ring breaks Frodo down in the end. Make now doubt though that Frodo resisted the ring much longer then any of the men or elves probably could have. Although this leads me to another question. Maybe Ill start a new thread....

***azalea*** · 02-02-2003, 03:15 PM

This really is more suited to the books forum. Moving.

samwise of the shire · 02-02-2003, 05:57 PM

I agree with Insidious Rex...Sam has an amazing mental strength and as time goes on a physical strength as well induced by determination and love for his master (even though near the end of their quest Frodo turns into an insufferable, pathetic wet blanket). He is the true hero.
As far as physically goes I would say Gollum...

Nah just kidding. Really I haven't gotten close enough to see Aragorns biceps...well now that I think about it...ANY of the characters biceps...

Cheers,
Sam

Guardian_of_the_Forest · 02-02-2003, 06:27 PM

I think the strongest overall physically has to be Treebeard, and strongest mentally may be Frodo. I mean, he did not completely resist the ring's evil, but he did not let it destroy him.

Coney · 02-02-2003, 06:29 PM

Tom Bombadil!!

Tar-Elendil · 02-02-2003, 08:46 PM

strongest character..
Eru is pretty obvious

WallRocker · 02-03-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Coney
Tom Bombadil!!

That was an obvious answer...

I'd have to say Gandalf or Treebeard

Evenstar1400 · 02-03-2003, 07:03 PM

sam... hes got to resist his urge to throttle gollum

okay okay.... frodo cause hes gotta resist the ring

also faramir cause hes gotta ignore his fathers insults and overcome the fact that he isnt loved as much as boramir

legolas cause he can endure the elements

and sauruman cause he can fall out a window and land on a spiked wheel in the movie and then can get stabbed by wormtounge in the book! he survive having a sharp pointy thing in his stomach twice!

eowyngirl14 · 02-03-2003, 07:44 PM

Thats just it, Legolas edures the elements. He doesn't feel the cold, well if he does it doesn't arm him. He is like the witches from the HIS DARK MATERIELS trilogy. That doesn't make him strong, it makes him lucky!

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-03-2003, 08:09 PM

Saruman's throat was slit by Thingummy Wormtongue, he wasn't stabbed.

Aragorn, best characterization? Please...

Regardless of how well Viggo did in the movie, the role he was given was not that of Aragorn.

eowyngirl14 · 02-03-2003, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Saruman's throat was slit by Thingummy Wormtongue, he wasn't stabbed.

Aragorn, best characterization? Please... Regardless of how well Viggo did in the movie, the role he was given was not that of Aragorn.

It was too, ye pansy! Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Heir to the throne of Gondor! (That's what is says on his trailer door atleast... not that I know by personal experience..)

02-01-2003, 11:32 PM	#1
Narsil's Master Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Indian,USA Posts: 109	Who is the strongest character? I am the strongest! Elves should rule! I claim narsil.

02-02-2003, 12:01 AM	#2
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02-02-2003, 12:01 AM	#3
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	I think Eowyn is the strongest charecter. Look at all she has been threw and delt with! And yet, she is still able to overcome it all and kill the Witchking and love Faramir? She is the strongest mentally anyway. Gimili is prolly the strongest pysically! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

02-02-2003, 01:16 AM	#4
Shadowfax The Fleet-Footed Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: British Columbia Posts: 913	eh, I would say Aragorn is strongest physically, being the king and all... __________________ Jesus saved me "To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child" (Cicero, 106-43 B.C.) "Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth" (Picasso)

02-02-2003, 01:29 AM	#5
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Treebeard is probably the strongest character physically. Gandalf is strongest overall. Narsil's master, I have no idea what he's about. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-02-2003, 01:38 AM	#7
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Don't forget Bandobras! Frodo had an extremely tough will; Sam had an indomitable devotion. Merry was cool, and more active. In the books, Pippin seemed to me to be rather ineffective, considering he was a Took. Other than the (relatively) harmless interview with Sauron and a few things at Minas Tirith, there was little he did. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-02-2003, 12:58 PM	#8
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Strongest, how? Physically, mentally, in wisdom or in characterization? Physically - Treebeard, no question Mentally - Frodo, the only person who managed to resist the Ring's evil (even if imperfectly) In Wisdom - Duh, Gandalf Characterization - Gollum, IMHO __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-02-2003, 03:15 PM	#11
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	This really is more suited to the books forum. Moving.

02-02-2003, 05:57 PM	#12
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	I agree with Insidious Rex...Sam has an amazing mental strength and as time goes on a physical strength as well induced by determination and love for his master (even though near the end of their quest Frodo turns into an insufferable, pathetic wet blanket). He is the true hero. As far as physically goes I would say Gollum... Nah just kidding. Really I haven't gotten close enough to see Aragorns biceps...well now that I think about it...ANY of the characters biceps... Cheers, Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

02-02-2003, 06:27 PM	#13
Guardian_of_the_Forest Enting Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: A Forgotten Forest Posts: 50	I think the strongest overall physically has to be Treebeard, and strongest mentally may be Frodo. I mean, he did not completely resist the ring's evil, but he did not let it destroy him. __________________ ~Jennie ~Lossenhyandowen ~Guardian of the Forest

02-02-2003, 06:29 PM	#14
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	Would you try to take lillies from this man? Tom Bombadil!! __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

02-02-2003, 08:46 PM	#15
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	strongest character.. Eru is pretty obvious __________________ Why can we not be sober..

02-03-2003, 07:03 PM	#17
Evenstar1400 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the inner depths of my lair. Posts: 421	sam... hes got to resist his urge to throttle gollum okay okay.... frodo cause hes gotta resist the ring also faramir cause hes gotta ignore his fathers insults and overcome the fact that he isnt loved as much as boramir legolas cause he can endure the elements and sauruman cause he can fall out a window and land on a spiked wheel in the movie and then can get stabbed by wormtounge in the book! he survive having a sharp pointy thing in his stomach twice! __________________ Treebeard: Hmm, you look like hobbits, smell like hobbits, feel like hobbits and sound like hobbits. You must be orcs!

02-03-2003, 07:44 PM	#18
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	Thats just it, Legolas edures the elements. He doesn't feel the cold, well if he does it doesn't arm him. He is like the witches from the HIS DARK MATERIELS trilogy. That doesn't make him strong, it makes him lucky! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

02-03-2003, 08:09 PM	#19
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Saruman's throat was slit by Thingummy Wormtongue, he wasn't stabbed. Aragorn, best characterization? Please... Regardless of how well Viggo did in the movie, the role he was given was not that of Aragorn. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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