What would make you go to war/ or kill

afro-elf · 01-20-2003, 03:56 AM

What would it take.

Elf Girl · 01-20-2003, 09:34 AM

I don't know, and I hope never to have to know.

Elenka · 01-20-2003, 09:40 AM

If murderers crept into my house at night, killed my parents, trashed my house and ate my dog, I would probably go crazy and pull out my non-existant /Insert weapon here\ and try to kill them.

Andúril · 01-20-2003, 10:16 AM

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Elenka:
If murderers crept into my house at night, killed my parents, trashed my house and ate my dog, I would probably go crazy and pull out my non-existant /Insert weapon here\ and try to kill them.

Sounds like you're already a little bit not all there...

FrodoFriend · 01-20-2003, 10:31 AM

If somebody threatened my little brothers. I wouldn't want to go to war or fight or anything, but I have the lurking suspicion that I would just lose my head and do anything at all to protect them... but I don't know if I could live with it afterwards either. I really have no idea.... very confusing thoughts.... good question though.

Elf Girl · 01-20-2003, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by FrodoFriend
If somebody threatened my little brothers. I wouldn't want to go to war or fight or anything, but I have the lurking suspicion that I would just lose my head and do anything at all to protect them... but I don't know if I could live with it afterwards either. I really have no idea.... very confusing thoughts.... good question though.

I also.

OT: Where were you, FF? Glad you're posting again.

Elven Archer · 01-20-2003, 11:10 AM

i'd kill if somebody tried to kill me, cause then it'd be self defense. i'd got to war if i was drafted but i'm a girl so i don't think i can be

Elf Girl · 01-20-2003, 11:12 AM

If I was drafted, I would leave the country. Nothing can make me go to war.

FrodoFriend · 01-20-2003, 11:19 AM

Agreed, Elf Girl!! If I were drafted I'd go hippie and dodge!

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-20-2003, 11:27 AM

Harry Potter...

I would be willing to fight to protect my family and loved ones. I would fight for a cause I believed in, if my country were fighting, and I got drafted, but I don't think I'd sign up. If it were for a cause I didn't believe in, I would try to get out because of that. I wouldn't want to fight, but I wouldn't just run away.

FrodoFriend · 01-20-2003, 11:31 AM

Just one question: Why does it say 'Harry Potter' at the top of your post?

gimli-son-of-gloin13 · 01-20-2003, 04:20 PM

lets see... *puts hand on chin and ponders a bit* ..... it would prob. hav to be(for war) if the "enemy" killed my family, then i would do it to take REVENGE! but to kill either they would hav done something to me and i wanted REVENGE *gets murderious glint in eye* or i would of had a "crazy moment"

Blackboar · 01-20-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by FrodoFriend
Just one question: Why does it say 'Harry Potter' at the top of your post?

Probably cause he would kill for Harry Potter!!

Only kidding

To protect Middle Earth, unfortunately there is not much I can do for that!

Coney · 01-20-2003, 04:35 PM

To Kill:........it would take a lot. Of course I'd defend myself/those I care for but I'd try to do it without actually killing someone.

To go to War: Hmm the enemy would have to be walking down my street........I pay taxes so some other folks, who wish to do so, can fight in any foreign fields the government wishes to invade/protect..if there were a draft it would depend on the circumstances, if I felt the cause was unjust then I'd be a concientious objector.

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-20-2003, 05:51 PM

FF: I meant that Harry Potter makes me want to kill.

Huan · 01-20-2003, 06:16 PM

I am staunchly against war and violence. If someone posed an immediate, direct threat to me and mine, I guess I'd do what I had to, but I ain't picking no fights. I could conceivably take up arms to protect my American civil rights, which given our current administration I fear I may eventually have to do. (probably shouldn't post that, since the CIA will now take me in the night)

The Lady of Ithilien · 01-20-2003, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
What would it take.

As to the former, a bunch of fanatical criminals hijacking several fully loaded and fully fueled domestic jet aircraft and plunging them, or attempting to plunge them, into massive office buildings, civilian and military, during peak working hours would do it. As to the latter, no one can honestly answer it, because no one will know the answer until or if the testing time comes.

All you potential draft dodgers, by the way, should be aware that President Clinton closed the haven north of us several years ago -- you will be extradited from Canada now. He called it the "Nowhere to Hide" program. Don't know that there's anywhere you can go now and be comfortable and still able to consort with decent people (as opposed to the criminals and other underworld types you'd need to talk to to stay hidden). Have you considered conscientious objector status?

Evenstar1400 · 01-20-2003, 09:16 PM

I dunno. If I had to protect my family in someway.......... but I'm not sure I would actually bring myself to use a gun. Maybe I would use a sword or bow and arrow instead............

johnnyrod · 01-20-2003, 09:24 PM

If my country needed me then I'd have to, wouldn't I? My family before me did the same to ensure I get a decent life, I should be man enough to do the same. Whether it's me getting a decent life or someone in another country who can't stand up for themselves, well, we all need a big brother sometimes (except if you live in London where it is accepted to ignore people in trouble). Can't say I'd look forward to it, though.

If anyone touched my loved ones I'd like to stove their head in with a pipe; I don't call it reasonable, it'd be what I wanted to do. Odds are I wouldn't, though, cos I'm not that kind of guy, but I've never been put in that situation either.

***azalea*** · 01-20-2003, 10:12 PM

Kill someone: I used to be much more of a pacifist before I had kids. Now, if someone were to bodily attack me or my children or family, I'd have no problem (at least in theory, I'd have to be faced w/ the situation to really know how I'd react) inflicting a mortal wound in order to stop the attack. I would hope to just incapacitate them, but it would just depend on the circumstances.

Go to war: if I was having to defend my actual turf, IOW, if the U.S. was sustaining a lengthy attack, and the country needed me to fight (although we'd be in a dire situation if we needed 31 year old 5'2" 1??lb. mothers of 2 to pick up arms for our defense

), I'd sign up, but I'd try to do as little killing as possible to bring about peace.

There's talk about reinstating the draft as a deterrent to war, and it seems I heard something about men AND women, but I think the women would be drafted into non-combat positions. If I were drafted into a combat position, I'd like to be like a guy I read about. He refused to carry a gun because of his religious beliefs, but went into battle anyway and acted as a medic (this was in WWII).

01-20-2003, 03:56 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	What would make you go to war/ or kill What would it take. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-20-2003, 09:34 AM	#2
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I don't know, and I hope never to have to know. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

01-20-2003, 09:40 AM	#3
Elenka The Negative Soul of Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Middle Distance Posts: 651	If murderers crept into my house at night, killed my parents, trashed my house and ate my dog, I would probably go crazy and pull out my non-existant /Insert weapon here\ and try to kill them. __________________ W00T for the M00T!! War doesn't determine who is right - war determines who is left.

01-20-2003, 10:31 AM	#5
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	If somebody threatened my little brothers. I wouldn't want to go to war or fight or anything, but I have the lurking suspicion that I would just lose my head and do anything at all to protect them... but I don't know if I could live with it afterwards either. I really have no idea.... very confusing thoughts.... good question though. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-20-2003, 11:10 AM	#7
Elven Archer Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: America! Posts: 480	i'd kill if somebody tried to kill me, cause then it'd be self defense. i'd got to war if i was drafted but i'm a girl so i don't think i can be __________________ "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: 'it goes on'." ~robert frost

01-20-2003, 11:12 AM	#8
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	If I was drafted, I would leave the country. Nothing can make me go to war. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

01-20-2003, 11:19 AM	#9
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Agreed, Elf Girl!! If I were drafted I'd go hippie and dodge! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-20-2003, 11:27 AM	#10
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Harry Potter... I would be willing to fight to protect my family and loved ones. I would fight for a cause I believed in, if my country were fighting, and I got drafted, but I don't think I'd sign up. If it were for a cause I didn't believe in, I would try to get out because of that. I wouldn't want to fight, but I wouldn't just run away. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-20-2003, 11:31 AM	#11
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Just one question: Why does it say 'Harry Potter' at the top of your post? __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-20-2003, 04:20 PM	#12
gimli-son-of-gloin13 Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Over the river and through the woods. Posts: 193	lets see... puts hand on chin and ponders a bit ..... it would prob. hav to be(for war) if the "enemy" killed my family, then i would do it to take REVENGE! but to kill either they would hav done something to me and i wanted REVENGE gets murderious glint in eye or i would of had a "crazy moment" __________________ http://www.4degreez.com/misc/persona...sorder_test.mv Do you have any personality disorders, click here and see! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://public.findlaw.com/states_new.html Find your rights as a student!

01-20-2003, 04:35 PM	#14
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	To Kill:........it would take a lot. Of course I'd defend myself/those I care for but I'd try to do it without actually killing someone. To go to War: Hmm the enemy would have to be walking down my street........I pay taxes so some other folks, who wish to do so, can fight in any foreign fields the government wishes to invade/protect..if there were a draft it would depend on the circumstances, if I felt the cause was unjust then I'd be a concientious objector. __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

01-20-2003, 05:51 PM	#15
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	FF: I meant that Harry Potter makes me want to kill. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-20-2003, 06:16 PM	#16
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	I am staunchly against war and violence. If someone posed an immediate, direct threat to me and mine, I guess I'd do what I had to, but I ain't picking no fights. I could conceivably take up arms to protect my American civil rights, which given our current administration I fear I may eventually have to do. (probably shouldn't post that, since the CIA will now take me in the night)

01-20-2003, 09:16 PM	#18
Evenstar1400 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the inner depths of my lair. Posts: 421	I dunno. If I had to protect my family in someway.......... but I'm not sure I would actually bring myself to use a gun. Maybe I would use a sword or bow and arrow instead............ __________________ Treebeard: Hmm, you look like hobbits, smell like hobbits, feel like hobbits and sound like hobbits. You must be orcs!

01-20-2003, 09:24 PM	#19
johnnyrod Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scunthorpe, UK Posts: 166	If my country needed me then I'd have to, wouldn't I? My family before me did the same to ensure I get a decent life, I should be man enough to do the same. Whether it's me getting a decent life or someone in another country who can't stand up for themselves, well, we all need a big brother sometimes (except if you live in London where it is accepted to ignore people in trouble). Can't say I'd look forward to it, though. If anyone touched my loved ones I'd like to stove their head in with a pipe; I don't call it reasonable, it'd be what I wanted to do. Odds are I wouldn't, though, cos I'm not that kind of guy, but I've never been put in that situation either. __________________ Frodo Lives!

01-20-2003, 10:12 PM	#20
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	Kill someone: I used to be much more of a pacifist before I had kids. Now, if someone were to bodily attack me or my children or family, I'd have no problem (at least in theory, I'd have to be faced w/ the situation to really know how I'd react) inflicting a mortal wound in order to stop the attack. I would hope to just incapacitate them, but it would just depend on the circumstances. Go to war: if I was having to defend my actual turf, IOW, if the U.S. was sustaining a lengthy attack, and the country needed me to fight (although we'd be in a dire situation if we needed 31 year old 5'2" 1??lb. mothers of 2 to pick up arms for our defense ), I'd sign up, but I'd try to do as little killing as possible to bring about peace. There's talk about reinstating the draft as a deterrent to war, and it seems I heard something about men AND women, but I think the women would be drafted into non-combat positions. If I were drafted into a combat position, I'd like to be like a guy I read about. He refused to carry a gun because of his religious beliefs, but went into battle anyway and acted as a medic (this was in WWII).

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