Gimli Speaks!

AngieBaggins · 12-31-2002, 03:18 PM

Hello everyone, i asked this in another thread but some reason i dont' think anyone noticed me *goes to the corner and cries* IN the Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings Extended Version, When they are in Lothlorien, Haldir says "We have not had dealings with the Dwarves since the Dark Days." Gimli says "Well you know waht this dwarf says to that, (insert Dwarvish)" What does the Dwarvish mean! and if you know, how do you spell it in Dwarvish? please, i need to know, i have plans and i need to fulfill them. OH, and I was just kidding about the crying bit. Luv you all!

-Angie Baggins *sends kisses*

eowyngirl14 · 12-31-2002, 03:27 PM

When I was listening to the commentary on the extended fotr DVD, I think that actors said that John had forgotten his lines, so he just sortof mumbled something. Sorry, I am not sure what he says or what it means...

It might not even mean anything.

Blackboar · 12-31-2002, 06:56 PM

Wish I knew!! Probably something Jackson made up!!

Millane · 01-01-2003, 09:48 AM

ohhh i loved that bit im glad that was there it didnt show enough hostility between elves and dwarves... can Aragorn speak Khuzdul??? how else would he have known Gimli was being discouteous

WallRocker · 01-01-2003, 11:37 AM

It wouldn't be that hard to figure out, Idon't think. Tolkien did invent a Dwarvish language, didn't he?

markedel · 01-01-2003, 01:40 PM

Yes. But Khuzdul is fragmentary, it's not the carefully formed language of elvish. The only bits we see in LOTR are some place names and the dwarven battle call.

Firekitten2006 · 01-01-2003, 06:32 PM

I was reading the Appendixes and it said that the Dwaves NEVER shared the meanings of their languages. Except for the battle cry Gimli used at Helms Deep and a small bit he shared with the Fellowship. So....I dont know that there is anyway to find out what he said. And in anycase, it seems like it would be extremely unlikely that Aragorn would have really known what it meant.

I do want to know tho!!!

Falagar · 01-01-2003, 06:40 PM

Jackson just made up some lines which sounded like Dwarvish.
There's no real meaning in it, as far as I know.

eowyngirl14 · 01-01-2003, 10:37 PM

Aragorn could probobly tell that it wasn't something nice to say becuase of Gimili's tome of voice and facial expressions, on the other hand, it couls just have been a lucky guess. Now I really want to know that it means, too!

Ma Uai: Ua Nemti · 01-01-2003, 11:37 PM

So, instead of finding out any answers, this thread has merely aroused more questions. AngieBaggins, I salute you.

Elf.Freak · 01-02-2003, 09:37 AM

ok, it just so happens that i was watching the FOTR extended edition part 2 and have *sort of* found out what Gimli says. I can't spell too well, but it sounded like "Isk-kaqui ai-droug nul", but don't ask me what it means!

Firekitten2006 · 01-02-2003, 03:55 PM

but we wanted to know its meaning!

Dont care if I can say it! Just wanna know what he said! lol

markedel · 01-02-2003, 04:12 PM

If the dialogue is actually Khuzdul then you can send in the quote (verified somehow for accuracy) to people intersted in such things. If no one else could Michael Martinez who runs a suite101 webpage on things related to Tolkien could direct you to those interested. Khuzdul is a fragmentary thing, and few people know it, it was never truly thought up, except as a vague structural skeleton. (see the foreward to silmarillion on that).

eowyngirl14 · 01-02-2003, 05:43 PM

Haven't read the Silmarillion yet... don't even know how to spell it. Was Tolkien going ot make Khuzdul a complete language, and he just died to early, or was he done with it? I know it doesn't make a difference now, just curious!

Millane · 01-02-2003, 06:43 PM

i think that he wanted to keep it limited because of the fact that dwarves didnt teach it to other which is why it seems dodgy that aragorn understood what he was saying... sure you can pass for little things that he could have picked up reading like the place names and that but he wouldnt have known much more than that...

eowyngirl14 · 01-02-2003, 09:42 PM

Well... we all know that Aragorn is the smartest, coolest, bravest, hottest... member of the fellowship, so that is why he can understand Dwarvish. He is special!!!

LuthienTinuviel · 01-02-2003, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by eowyngirl14
Well... we all know that Aragorn is the smartest, coolest, bravest, hottest... member of the fellowship, so that is why he can understand Dwarvish. He is special!!!

ACK!

BeardofPants · 01-03-2003, 12:56 AM

LOL! @ LT.

Regarding what Gimli says at Lorien, well, you're not going to have much luck....

Anyway, try here.

Gorhiriel · 03-20-2003, 01:08 AM

*g* I think we al want to know what he said!

gimli7410 · 03-21-2003, 08:10 PM

i know gimli said somethin like 'ish de aqui' but thats all i can remember.

12-31-2002, 03:18 PM	#1
AngieBaggins Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cali Posts: 36	Gimli Speaks! Hello everyone, i asked this in another thread but some reason i dont' think anyone noticed me goes to the corner and cries IN the Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings Extended Version, When they are in Lothlorien, Haldir says "We have not had dealings with the Dwarves since the Dark Days." Gimli says "Well you know waht this dwarf says to that, (insert Dwarvish)" What does the Dwarvish mean! and if you know, how do you spell it in Dwarvish? please, i need to know, i have plans and i need to fulfill them. OH, and I was just kidding about the crying bit. Luv you all! -Angie Baggins sends kisses __________________ Loverly, just loverly. She looked over the hall way doors, and noticed him there. It was odd, for she had never met anyone like him. And she never expected she would again.

12-31-2002, 03:27 PM	#2
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	When I was listening to the commentary on the extended fotr DVD, I think that actors said that John had forgotten his lines, so he just sortof mumbled something. Sorry, I am not sure what he says or what it means... It might not even mean anything. __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

01-01-2003, 09:48 AM	#4
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	ohhh i loved that bit im glad that was there it didnt show enough hostility between elves and dwarves... can Aragorn speak Khuzdul??? how else would he have known Gimli was being discouteous __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free, Last edited by Millane : 01-02-2003 at 06:44 PM.

01-01-2003, 11:37 AM	#5
WallRocker Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: At the computer... Posts: 376	It wouldn't be that hard to figure out, Idon't think. Tolkien did invent a Dwarvish language, didn't he? __________________ Do one thing every day that scares you ~Anonymous~ <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><<>< <>< <>< <>< I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America And to the Republic for which it stands One nation UNDER GOD with liberty and justice for all

01-01-2003, 01:40 PM	#6
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Yes. But Khuzdul is fragmentary, it's not the carefully formed language of elvish. The only bits we see in LOTR are some place names and the dwarven battle call. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

12-31-2002, 06:56 PM	#3
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	Wish I knew!! Probably something Jackson made up!!

01-01-2003, 06:32 PM	#7
Firekitten2006 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: the US of A! But I wish i was in austraila, never been, just think it would be a fun place to live :) Posts: 372	I was reading the Appendixes and it said that the Dwaves NEVER shared the meanings of their languages. Except for the battle cry Gimli used at Helms Deep and a small bit he shared with the Fellowship. So....I dont know that there is anyway to find out what he said. And in anycase, it seems like it would be extremely unlikely that Aragorn would have really known what it meant. I do want to know tho!!! __________________ I'm Baaaack!!

01-01-2003, 06:40 PM	#8
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Jackson just made up some lines which sounded like Dwarvish. There's no real meaning in it, as far as I know. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

01-01-2003, 10:37 PM	#9
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	Aragorn could probobly tell that it wasn't something nice to say becuase of Gimili's tome of voice and facial expressions, on the other hand, it couls just have been a lucky guess. Now I really want to know that it means, too! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

01-01-2003, 11:37 PM	#10
Ma Uai: Ua Nemti Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: We'd tell you but you're all out to get us. Posts: 215	So, instead of finding out any answers, this thread has merely aroused more questions. AngieBaggins, I salute you. __________________ Pharoah "Vires decusque."

01-02-2003, 09:37 AM	#11
Elf.Freak Orli's lil fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sugar World/Orlando Bloom Cloud Posts: 464	ok, it just so happens that i was watching the FOTR extended edition part 2 and have sort of found out what Gimli says. I can't spell too well, but it sounded like "Isk-kaqui ai-droug nul", but don't ask me what it means! __________________ >>--elven arrow--> ~ Give a man a fish and he'll feed for a day, give me a fish and you'll only get it back! ~ I've gotta new avatar! looks kinda like me...anime style! ~ LOST: Orlando Bloom. If found, please send him straight to Elf.Freak

01-02-2003, 03:55 PM	#12
Firekitten2006 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: the US of A! But I wish i was in austraila, never been, just think it would be a fun place to live :) Posts: 372	but we wanted to know its meaning! Dont care if I can say it! Just wanna know what he said! lol __________________ I'm Baaaack!!

01-02-2003, 04:12 PM	#13
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	If the dialogue is actually Khuzdul then you can send in the quote (verified somehow for accuracy) to people intersted in such things. If no one else could Michael Martinez who runs a suite101 webpage on things related to Tolkien could direct you to those interested. Khuzdul is a fragmentary thing, and few people know it, it was never truly thought up, except as a vague structural skeleton. (see the foreward to silmarillion on that). __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

01-02-2003, 05:43 PM	#14
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	Haven't read the Silmarillion yet... don't even know how to spell it. Was Tolkien going ot make Khuzdul a complete language, and he just died to early, or was he done with it? I know it doesn't make a difference now, just curious! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

01-02-2003, 06:43 PM	#15
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	i think that he wanted to keep it limited because of the fact that dwarves didnt teach it to other which is why it seems dodgy that aragorn understood what he was saying... sure you can pass for little things that he could have picked up reading like the place names and that but he wouldnt have known much more than that... __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

01-02-2003, 09:42 PM	#16
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	Well... we all know that Aragorn is the smartest, coolest, bravest, hottest... member of the fellowship, so that is why he can understand Dwarvish. He is special!!! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

01-03-2003, 12:56 AM	#18
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	LOL! @ LT. Regarding what Gimli says at Lorien, well, you're not going to have much luck.... Anyway, try here. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

03-20-2003, 01:08 AM	#19
Gorhiriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 112	g I think we al want to know what he said! __________________ Do not mess with me, or I will call my dragons and Destroy You All!!! BOROMIR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "And anon shall I Sail into the West: with the setting sun I shall remove my light from this world..."

03-21-2003, 08:10 PM	#20
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	i know gimli said somethin like 'ish de aqui' but thats all i can remember. __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

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