Wormtounge?

Firekitten2006 · 11-02-2002, 06:13 PM

what happened to Saurunam's little sidekick in the movie? Maybe i just missed it or something....

Coney · 11-02-2002, 06:45 PM

All will be revealed in The Two Towers

cassiopeia · 11-02-2002, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Firekitten2006
what happened to Saurunam's little sidekick in the movie? Maybe i just missed it or something....

Do you mean if he's in the TT or not? If you watch the trailer he's there. An ugly, slimy guy hanging around Theoden and Saruman.

Lanelf · 11-07-2002, 10:34 PM

Cass! Don't call him slimy - that's not very nice!

After all, they said Smeagol was slimy, and it doesn't make him a bad bloke. Hey, even Aragorn has slimy hair, but I don't hear anybody saying "Eeew!" to him...

Anyway, to get on topic (

wow!

) Wormtongue will turn up in TTT. It's been a while since I read the books, but was Wormy even in FOTR? I'm not sure...
Lanelf.

Lizra · 11-07-2002, 11:08 PM

No I didn't think he was slimey looking either. Pastey faced, swollen, and pimply, yeah.

He doesn't look like I imagined. I would think to dupe the king and all, he would have had to look a little better than that! He looks like a sicko! I will be keen on seeing how his character is written, and what his voice sounds like. He "looks" pathetic! Oh yeah, he reminded me of Bruno, Count Floyd's hunchback sidekick on SCTV, (played by Eugene Levy). Anybody watch SCTV?

Firekitten2006 · 11-08-2002, 12:04 AM

anybody know where i can get the trailer?? I have tried and tried and tried. I cant seem to download quicktime so maybe one on macromedia player?

Eowyn of Rohan · 11-08-2002, 12:48 AM

Oh yeah.... wormtongue will be there.

But, I have a kind of related question to ask.
(Forgive me for those following my posts,... yes, it involves Eowyn.) ::rolling your eyes now?? Go ahead and get it out of your system::

I was totally clueless that Wormtongue was "after" Eowyn and had his eyes fixed on her "in that way".

eeeewwwwww

Anyone have more thoughts on this?

**crickhollow** · 11-08-2002, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Lizra
No I didn't think he was slimey looking either. Pastey faced, swollen, and pimply, yeah. He doesn't look like I imagined. I would think to dupe the king and all, he would have had to look a little better than that! He looks like a sicko! I will be keen on seeing how his character is written, and what his voice sounds like. He "looks" pathetic! Oh yeah, he reminded me of Bruno, Count Floyd's hunchback sidekick on SCTV, (played by Eugene Levy). Anybody watch SCTV?

lordoftherings.net had a short QuickTime clip about the baddies in TTT (Saruman, Wormtongue, and Gollum), and on it Karl Urban (Eomer) makes a rather funny remark. He says that among all of the tall, blonde, and beautiful Rohirrim, you see this slimy creature in the corner, and go, "hmmm...would it be....him?" I thought it was funny, anyway.

cassiopeia · 11-08-2002, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by Lanelf
Cass! Don't call him slimy - that's not very nice! After all, they said Smeagol was slimy, and it doesn't make him a bad bloke. Hey, even Aragorn has slimy hair, but I don't hear anybody saying "Eeew!" to him...
Anyway, to get on topic (wow!) Wormtongue will turn up in TTT. It's been a while since I read the books, but was Wormy even in FOTR? I'm not sure...
Lanelf.

I meant slimy in a personality type way. Anyway, Grima is not a nice person, so I am allowed to call him names!

And don't worry, I would never say ewww to Aragorn.

I am sure that Wormtongue was not in FOTR.

EOR: I didn't get the impression that Grima was after Eowyn in the books, but I will have to check, because I havn't read them for a while. I think I read somewhere that Grima will be after Eowyn in the movie.

Ooops, I just realised that I interchanged Wormtongue and Grima. Grima is quicker to type.

For those who don't know, Grima = Wormtongue.

Starr Polish · 11-08-2002, 01:38 AM

He most definitely was...there's a quote about it being the only thing he wanted, and how Saruman promised him Eowyn if Grima aided him, or summat.

Eowyn of Rohan · 11-08-2002, 01:42 AM

Cassiopeia wrote: I didn't get the impression that Grima was after Eowyn in the books, but I will have to check, because I havn't read them for a while. I think I read somewhere that Grima will be after Eowyn in the movie.

You know... I didn't think so either until someone mentioned it (or I read it in an article) the other day. So I went back and looked,... and INDEED, it *IS* mentioned in the book.

(TTT, The King of the Golden Hall):

"Nay, Eomer, you do not fully understand the mind of Master Wormtongue,' said Gandalf, turning his piercing glance upon him. 'He is bold and cunning. Even now he plays a game with peril and wins a throw. Hours of my precious time he has wasted already. Down, snake!' he said suddenly in a terrible voice. 'Down on your belly! How long is it since Saruman brought you? What was the promised price? When all the men were dead, you wear to pick you share of the treasure, and take the woman you desire? Too long have you watched her under your eyelids and haunted her steps.'
Eomer grasped his sword. 'That I knew already,' he muttered. 'For that reason I would have slain him before, forgetting the law of the hall. But there are other reasons.' He stepped forward, but Gandalf stayed him with his hand.

Gandalf is talking about Eowyn.... and Eomer, her brother, is ready to kill Grima for it.

So.... what do you think?

cassiopeia · 11-08-2002, 01:50 AM

EOR, I just found that quote and was going to type it up just as you posted! Thank you!

Well, the LOTR is a long book and some things go right over your head.

Eomer knows that Wormtongue is evil and the thought of his sister being with him disgusts him, so I suppose thats why he wants to kill him.

Eowyn of Rohan · 11-08-2002, 01:55 AM

Still!! How did I so COMPLETELY miss that before???

::Sigh:: Guess I just have to go back and reread the whole thing in case there are other things I missed.

Oh woe is me!! Such is my hateful lot. I don't know how I will be able to bear this burden!

olsonm · 11-08-2002, 02:19 AM

I've read it five times now and I still find that I missed things!

Eowyn of Rohan · 11-08-2002, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by olsonm
I've read it five times now and I still find that I missed things!

Was Wormtongue wanting Eowyn one of those things that you missed? It was one *I* missed!

olsonm · 11-08-2002, 02:28 AM

No, I did notice that. But I only remembered it because of what Aragorn (and Gandalf) said about Eowyn in "The Houses of Healing" chapter in RotK. Love that part. Very interesting insight on Eowyn's character.

BeardofPants · 11-08-2002, 02:58 AM

I am the QUEEN of missing small details. I didn't even notice Prince Imrahil until my 8th reading!

I *did* notice how leecherous Wormtongue was though; miracle of miracles!

olsonm · 11-08-2002, 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
I am the QUEEN of missing small details.

I can vouch for that!

Millane · 11-08-2002, 03:42 AM

if you wanted a pic of wormtongue in the movie here is a link to some pretty cool desktops... there is one of Grishnakh aswell...
http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_...down_desk.html
so there you go...

11-02-2002, 06:13 PM	#1
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Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	Cass! Don't call him slimy - that's not very nice! After all, they said Smeagol was slimy, and it doesn't make him a bad bloke. Hey, even Aragorn has slimy hair, but I don't hear anybody saying "Eeew!" to him... Anyway, to get on topic (wow!) Wormtongue will turn up in TTT. It's been a while since I read the books, but was Wormy even in FOTR? I'm not sure... Lanelf. __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

11-07-2002, 11:08 PM	#5
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	No I didn't think he was slimey looking either. Pastey faced, swollen, and pimply, yeah. He doesn't look like I imagined. I would think to dupe the king and all, he would have had to look a little better than that! He looks like a sicko! I will be keen on seeing how his character is written, and what his voice sounds like. He "looks" pathetic! Oh yeah, he reminded me of Bruno, Count Floyd's hunchback sidekick on SCTV, (played by Eugene Levy). Anybody watch SCTV? __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats! Last edited by Lizra : 11-07-2002 at 11:09 PM.

11-08-2002, 12:04 AM	#6
Firekitten2006 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: the US of A! But I wish i was in austraila, never been, just think it would be a fun place to live :) Posts: 372	anybody know where i can get the trailer?? I have tried and tried and tried. I cant seem to download quicktime so maybe one on macromedia player? __________________ I'm Baaaack!!

11-08-2002, 12:48 AM	#7
Eowyn of Rohan Enting Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 73	Oh yeah.... wormtongue will be there. But, I have a kind of related question to ask. (Forgive me for those following my posts,... yes, it involves Eowyn.) ::rolling your eyes now?? Go ahead and get it out of your system:: I was totally clueless that Wormtongue was "after" Eowyn and had his eyes fixed on her "in that way". eeeewwwwww Anyone have more thoughts on this?

11-08-2002, 01:38 AM	#10
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	He most definitely was...there's a quote about it being the only thing he wanted, and how Saruman promised him Eowyn if Grima aided him, or summat. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

11-08-2002, 01:42 AM	#11
Eowyn of Rohan Enting Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 73	Cassiopeia wrote: I didn't get the impression that Grima was after Eowyn in the books, but I will have to check, because I havn't read them for a while. I think I read somewhere that Grima will be after Eowyn in the movie. You know... I didn't think so either until someone mentioned it (or I read it in an article) the other day. So I went back and looked,... and INDEED, it IS mentioned in the book. (TTT, The King of the Golden Hall): "Nay, Eomer, you do not fully understand the mind of Master Wormtongue,' said Gandalf, turning his piercing glance upon him. 'He is bold and cunning. Even now he plays a game with peril and wins a throw. Hours of my precious time he has wasted already. Down, snake!' he said suddenly in a terrible voice. 'Down on your belly! How long is it since Saruman brought you? What was the promised price? When all the men were dead, you wear to pick you share of the treasure, and take the woman you desire? Too long have you watched her under your eyelids and haunted her steps.' Eomer grasped his sword. 'That I knew already,' he muttered. 'For that reason I would have slain him before, forgetting the law of the hall. But there are other reasons.' He stepped forward, but Gandalf stayed him with his hand. Gandalf is talking about Eowyn.... and Eomer, her brother, is ready to kill Grima for it. So.... what do you think?

11-08-2002, 01:50 AM	#12
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	EOR, I just found that quote and was going to type it up just as you posted! Thank you! Well, the LOTR is a long book and some things go right over your head. Eomer knows that Wormtongue is evil and the thought of his sister being with him disgusts him, so I suppose thats why he wants to kill him. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

11-08-2002, 01:55 AM	#13
Eowyn of Rohan Enting Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 73	Still!! How did I so COMPLETELY miss that before??? ::Sigh:: Guess I just have to go back and reread the whole thing in case there are other things I missed. Oh woe is me!! Such is my hateful lot. I don't know how I will be able to bear this burden!

11-08-2002, 02:19 AM	#14
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	I've read it five times now and I still find that I missed things! __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

11-08-2002, 02:28 AM	#16
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	No, I did notice that. But I only remembered it because of what Aragorn (and Gandalf) said about Eowyn in "The Houses of Healing" chapter in RotK. Love that part. Very interesting insight on Eowyn's character. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

11-08-2002, 02:58 AM	#17
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I am the QUEEN of missing small details. I didn't even notice Prince Imrahil until my 8th reading! I did notice how leecherous Wormtongue was though; miracle of miracles! __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

11-08-2002, 03:42 AM	#19
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	if you wanted a pic of wormtongue in the movie here is a link to some pretty cool desktops... there is one of Grishnakh aswell... http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_...down_desk.html so there you go... __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

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