The wizard and the wheel

This is possibly one of the most controversial pics that have appeared.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/common/im...50,6150,FF.jpg
What's this? is it real or only a fake? the source didn't seems too learned about Tolkien, because they cannot get the difference between Gandalf the Grey an Gandalf the White...

is it the death of Saruman? then it would have been changed to a death in the New Mill of Ted Sandyman or, as it has been suggested in many fan sites, a death at Isengard, cuz Chris Lee hasn't filmed anything at the Shire set and cuz he signed only for the first two movies.

I'd say it's Saruman dying in Isengard.

I wonder if Peter Jackson manages to keep the movie PG-13.

who wants a PG-13 movie?

NOOOOOOOOO!!!

This is bad news...

This just doesn't fit in...

Please say this is just a dream sequence or something...

The contract says that the LotR-trilogy has to be PG-13.

Not that any blood moss and gore would do any harm though.

Se Michael Martinez' analysis here:
www.xenite.org/faqs/lotr_...0/142.html

Eureka!! i got it! i've just found what happened:

Brad Douriff (Grima) jumps over Christopher Lee (Saruman) and drive his knife to the wizard's back.

"hey, hey, stop", says PJ "this cannot work. Nobody is going to believe it"

"okay, i'll try to be more aggressive next time", says Douriff

"nay, nay. you cannot kill Lee only with a knife. everybody knows that you need to put a stick in his heart to kill him". "hey, Fran, we need to film again that shot at Isengard. Mckellen should wear a garlic's clove collar"

:lol: :lol:

!!!!!!

:lol:

I think it's either a dream or Saruman's end. I hope it's a dream but I bet it's Saruman.

Ian McKellen said that the person in the picture is neither him nor Christopher Lee. However, this doesn't eliminate the Saruman possibility (though I hope it does!) because it could just be a stunt double for the same role...

You're right on that IP... neither Lee nor McKellen are physically shaped to do this trick. Especially if there's a blue screen, that mean the wheel will probably move...

A few observations.

1. Saruman... I seem to remember he becomes "Saruman of Many Colors". If that's Saruman in the picture, killed clothed in white, what happened to the "many colors"?

2. Perhaps (and please say this is so) this is how Wormtongue kills Saruman after the Battle of Bywater, rather than the knife. However, that still doesn't explain why Saruman is clothed in white. (Or did he go back to white clothing before his appearance in Two Towers, or on his way to the Shire? I don't remember... too rusty.)

3. If this is a dream sequence, and the wizard on the wheel is Gandalf - perhaps it's Frodo's dream, not Gandalf's?

4. There's no solid evidence that this is a wizard we're dealing with here...

i also thought it could be the death of Saruman at the Shire, but after reading MM opinion i'm almost sure there won't be Scouring of the Shire, because Douriff says that Grima will only appear in the second movie. I don't think we'll have an Scoring without Grima around.

anyway, i also think that must be the double of Saruman. the "many-colours" can be put on the editing process.

Yeah, perhaps the many colors will be some cool CGI effect to be added in later...
Because if its not Saruman then it can only be Gandalf... and that would make absolutely NO sense.
Hmmm actuall there are several options to explain this

1. Its a dream sequence featuring Gandalf
2. They will not be dressing Saruman in many colors, just in white
3. The Many colors to be added in digitally perhaps

4. it is a fake photo to make us all go mad

It could be PJ's version of Frodo's dream. But shouldn't FotR already be packed and ready to go to WETA for editing (if it isn't there already)? Isn't the filming of FotR over?

noldo, it's not shot in order.

The photograph is real, as far as I have been able to determine (and I know many other people have been checking). Sir Ian's failure to mention that it's a fake pretty much clinches that it's real.

I've seen the dream sequence suggested in a number of places, but I don't see who would be dreaming this or why.

And Saruman's death at the end of the second movie (if that is truly when he dies) would not necessarily mean the Scouring was out. The Scouring of the Shire was not about removing Saruman but about removing the Ruffians. The awakening of the Hobbits was the point of the chapter. Most of them didn't even know Saruman was there.

yeah, i've also seen suggested that option of an only-for-hobbits(and Ruffians) Scouring, but if you were the director, wouldn't you preserve some of the major villians for that moment? why to kill them at Isengard when they can be useful for a final climax?

www.theonering.net/movie/s****book/large/526

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