military aid

afro-elf · 05-08-2002, 06:18 AM

if you could take one pre-gun powder fighting force/ general form our history( and make him a good guy) to fight in the war of the ring who would you take

I'm torn between genghis khan

with rohirrim that would be AWESOME

a roman legion

and alexander the great

Arathorn · 05-08-2002, 07:07 AM

I think I'd go with the Khan to lead the Rohirrim. I like the way they sweep in quickly, do their business, then get out. I'd like to see the horde get a dose of it's own medicine.

BTW, if that's you A-E, you DO look like Denzel.

BeardofPants · 05-08-2002, 07:11 AM

That is Denzel, you ninnyhammer.

I'd take any of Caesar's legions, plus maybe some hyksos ones as well.

Arathorn · 05-08-2002, 07:18 AM

WOW! Denzel looks like Denzel.

(playing up my ninnyhammership for the sheep)

How about some Shaolin monks or some Samurai and Ninja for covert ops. That'll be

.

***azalea*** · 05-08-2002, 09:23 AM

Joan of Arc. That would give Eowyn some company.

BeardofPants · 05-08-2002, 09:25 AM

Yeah, and we'll drag in Cleopatra as well. She may have been butt ugly, but boy did she have brains. (Well she must have done to have seduced 2 of the most important men in the roman empire... if you believe she really existed, that is.)

afro-elf · 05-08-2002, 09:37 AM

well it is a picture that looks the MOST like me. A times we CAN look a lot alike.

the problem with shaolin, ninja, and samurai is that i think we may have been too influenced by cinema and not the real history

BUT the guys from shaw brothers or golden harvest would have whooped some A$$ in LOTR

barrelrider110 · 05-08-2002, 10:46 AM

Hannibal. That way we'd have oliphants of our own!

Arathorn · 05-08-2002, 12:09 PM

I'm not even thinking of the special effects and stunts from the movies regarding shaolin, samurai, and ninja.

It's just interesting to imagine more covert ways of waging the war (aside from a few lucky halflings). Speed and stealthy techniques are fascinating. They could be hired for intelligence gathering and even some assassinations.

But with open battle, I think I'd still go with Genghis.

Elfmaster XK · 05-08-2002, 12:16 PM

A member of a cult known as the 'brothers of the shadow'

Wulažg · 05-08-2002, 04:13 PM

Ninjas are all about not actually facing a straight fight so they wouldn't do well in Middle Earth when you HAVE to fight. Plus they couldn't really assassinate anyone important.

*pictures a ninja trying to backstab a Balrog*

It just isn't going to happen. Ditto with the Ringwraiths and Sauron. And you have no idea how hard it is to actually kill a troll. Read the song when Frodo and Co. find the Troll lair from the Hobbit. It's almost impossible to cut their skin at all.

Elf Girl · 05-08-2002, 04:50 PM

Hm. I agree, I'd bring Joan of Arc.

BeardofPants · 05-08-2002, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by barrelrider110
Hannibal. That way we'd have oliphants of our own!

Erm yeah... but Hannibal got trounced.

***Khamûl*** · 05-08-2002, 07:02 PM

I say bring along Attila the Hun. I don't know if him and Genghis would get along too well. They're in about the same league with the leading armies that get things done and move on.

galadriel88 · 05-08-2002, 07:30 PM

How about Robin Hood and his Merry Men?

just kidding, just kidding...

afro-elf · 05-08-2002, 08:04 PM

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Erm yeah... but Hannibal got trounced

well actually rome was getting is A$$ whooped my hannibal and his elephant HOWEVER the romans attacked cathage with another army and hannibal withdrew his forces to defend cathage

However I do not know about the tactics of that battle if elephants were used or not

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Hm. I agree, I'd bring Joan of Arc.

sorry to rain on your parade but joan could'nt fight. she was just an inspirational force

but that could be an advantage like the coming of the king

***azalea*** · 05-08-2002, 08:33 PM

That's not what I heard.

BeardofPants · 05-08-2002, 09:27 PM

Yes, but Carthage fell... eventually....

Anyway, it's a good military tat tic, is it not? Sneak around to the back door....

Menelvagor · 05-08-2002, 10:19 PM

Ooh, curse the public school system in America! Especially Florida! Can you believe that in 7 years of public school I have never had one world history course?! And I've had three American history courses! ERG!!

*shakes head, breathes* Well then, now that little rant is over, probably a Roman legion or some Samurai, probably the samurai, the legionaries fighting style would be too similar to Sauron's forces, it would make them more predictable.

Renille · 05-08-2002, 10:55 PM

I would definitely bring in Alexander the Great. The guy conquered nearly the whole known world in his short lifetime of about 32 years! Imagine what he could have done with Middle Earth.
By the way, Menelvagor, don't worry. If Florida is like WI, you'll have to take a world history course in 9th grade. I did...it was actually interesting. I knew alot of the material already, though.

05-08-2002, 06:18 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	military aid if you could take one pre-gun powder fighting force/ general form our history( and make him a good guy) to fight in the war of the ring who would you take I'm torn between genghis khan with rohirrim that would be AWESOME a roman legion and alexander the great __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

05-08-2002, 07:07 AM	#2
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	I think I'd go with the Khan to lead the Rohirrim. I like the way they sweep in quickly, do their business, then get out. I'd like to see the horde get a dose of it's own medicine. BTW, if that's you A-E, you DO look like Denzel. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... Last edited by Arathorn : 05-08-2002 at 07:13 AM.

05-08-2002, 07:11 AM	#3
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	That is Denzel, you ninnyhammer. I'd take any of Caesar's legions, plus maybe some hyksos ones as well. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

05-08-2002, 07:18 AM	#4
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	WOW! Denzel looks like Denzel. (playing up my ninnyhammership for the sheep) How about some Shaolin monks or some Samurai and Ninja for covert ops. That'll be . __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

05-08-2002, 09:25 AM	#6
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Yeah, and we'll drag in Cleopatra as well. She may have been butt ugly, but boy did she have brains. (Well she must have done to have seduced 2 of the most important men in the roman empire... if you believe she really existed, that is.) __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

05-08-2002, 09:23 AM	#5
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	Joan of Arc. That would give Eowyn some company.

05-08-2002, 09:37 AM	#7
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	well it is a picture that looks the MOST like me. A times we CAN look a lot alike. the problem with shaolin, ninja, and samurai is that i think we may have been too influenced by cinema and not the real history BUT the guys from shaw brothers or golden harvest would have whooped some A$$ in LOTR __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

05-08-2002, 10:46 AM	#8
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	Hannibal. That way we'd have oliphants of our own! __________________ “"I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider," Fear Complacency! ___________________ Something under the bed is drooling

05-08-2002, 12:09 PM	#9
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	I'm not even thinking of the special effects and stunts from the movies regarding shaolin, samurai, and ninja. It's just interesting to imagine more covert ways of waging the war (aside from a few lucky halflings). Speed and stealthy techniques are fascinating. They could be hired for intelligence gathering and even some assassinations. But with open battle, I think I'd still go with Genghis. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

05-08-2002, 12:16 PM	#10
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	A member of a cult known as the 'brothers of the shadow' __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

05-08-2002, 04:13 PM	#11
Wulažg Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 306	Ninjas are all about not actually facing a straight fight so they wouldn't do well in Middle Earth when you HAVE to fight. Plus they couldn't really assassinate anyone important. pictures a ninja trying to backstab a Balrog It just isn't going to happen. Ditto with the Ringwraiths and Sauron. And you have no idea how hard it is to actually kill a troll. Read the song when Frodo and Co. find the Troll lair from the Hobbit. It's almost impossible to cut their skin at all. __________________ FRODO LIVES!! EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO rule the world!

05-08-2002, 04:50 PM	#12
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Hm. I agree, I'd bring Joan of Arc. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

05-08-2002, 07:02 PM	#14
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	I say bring along Attila the Hun. I don't know if him and Genghis would get along too well. They're in about the same league with the leading armies that get things done and move on. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

05-08-2002, 07:30 PM	#15
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	How about Robin Hood and his Merry Men? just kidding, just kidding... __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

05-08-2002, 08:33 PM	#17
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	That's not what I heard.

05-08-2002, 09:27 PM	#18
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Yes, but Carthage fell... eventually.... Anyway, it's a good military tat tic, is it not? Sneak around to the back door.... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords Last edited by BeardofPants : 05-08-2002 at 09:59 PM.

05-08-2002, 10:19 PM	#19
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	Ooh, curse the public school system in America! Especially Florida! Can you believe that in 7 years of public school I have never had one world history course?! And I've had three American history courses! ERG!! shakes head, breathes Well then, now that little rant is over, probably a Roman legion or some Samurai, probably the samurai, the legionaries fighting style would be too similar to Sauron's forces, it would make them more predictable.

05-08-2002, 10:55 PM	#20
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	I would definitely bring in Alexander the Great. The guy conquered nearly the whole known world in his short lifetime of about 32 years! Imagine what he could have done with Middle Earth. By the way, Menelvagor, don't worry. If Florida is like WI, you'll have to take a world history course in 9th grade. I did...it was actually interesting. I knew alot of the material already, though. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

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