misconceptions

afro-elf · 04-17-2002, 06:14 AM

what were some misconceptions that you had when you first got into LOTR that suprised you either positively or negatively

for me it was learning that Gandalf was not human

Strange-Looking Lurker · 04-17-2002, 09:11 AM

For me it was learning that Bilbo was not the main character.

TinuvielChild · 04-17-2002, 10:41 AM

that people could think that Balrogs had wings

BeardofPants · 04-17-2002, 11:12 AM

For me, I guess I was expecting to hate the book, because at that time, I disliked the Hobbit. However, I was pleasantly surprised to find that I liked it - although it took 3 readings before I was completely won over.

afro-elf · 04-17-2002, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by TinuvielChild
that people could think that Balrogs had wings

It says:

and its wings were spread form wall to wall

its right there in the bridge of khazad dum

barrelrider110 · 04-17-2002, 12:11 PM

Afro-elf, I must compliment you for devising the most thought-provoking threads. It took me a while to think of this, its been so long ago that I read LoTR, but here goes:
(1) Gollum was a mutant frog
(2) Elves were little, looked like the Grinch, and spoke with Austrian accents.
(3) Orcs and Goblins are not the same creature

webwizard333 · 04-17-2002, 12:34 PM

Learning Biblo's ring was not just a rather fun, if at times trivial, toy. I had wanted the ring until I read the LotR, now I'd rather not have it.

afro-elf · 04-17-2002, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by barrelrider110
Afro-elf, I must compliment you for devising the most thought-provoking threads. It took me a while to think of this, its been so long ago that I read LoTR, but here goes:
(1) Gollum was a mutant frog
(2) Elves were little, looked like the Grinch, and spoke with Austrian accents.
(3) Orcs and Goblins are not the same creature

Yes blast that cartoon

StrawberryIcecream · 04-17-2002, 12:50 PM

That after TRYING to read lord of the rings several times after finishing the hobbit, that the movie would be bsolute horse poo. Luckily it wasnt and it gave me the will power to read the books.

I also imagined Frodo a heck of a lot different.

Oh, and I thought Hobbits were the size of the borrowers!!!

***Earniel*** · 04-17-2002, 02:58 PM

To me Arwen turning up at the end and marrying Aragorn was quite a big surprise.

Glorious Glorfindel · 04-17-2002, 03:49 PM

i dunno for me! maybe when i read that frodo and sam were gonna go off with that slimeball gollum, who i don't suppose is THAT much of a slimeball. he's still a pretty large slimeball though. im wittering now! i do like that word though! slimeballslimeballslimeball. i will leave now, don't worry!

Wulažg · 04-17-2002, 05:04 PM

That hobbits were so mischeivous. Although not nearly as mischeivous as in the movie. That and their almost ncanny attraction to muchrooms, which might explain why they are so short...

BeardofPants · 04-17-2002, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by barrelrider110
Elves were little, looked like the Grinch, and spoke with Austrian accents.

I forgot about that! Before LOTR, (and Hobbit, for that matter), my conceptions of an Elf, were akin to those english story pixies by Enid Blyton.

olsonm · 04-17-2002, 05:22 PM

My perception of the elves was greatly changed from my perceptions after reading the "Hobbit".

I was in the seemingly unique position of having never even heard of LoTR before I read it! So I benifited from having no preconceptions.

ElvenKing · 04-17-2002, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by webwizard333
Learning Biblo's ring was not just a rather fun, if at times trivial, toy. I had wanted the ring until I read the LotR, now I'd rather not have it.

Same here.

emplynx · 04-17-2002, 06:10 PM

The first time through the Fellowship, I was thinking Boromir was a dwarf.

Menelvagor · 04-17-2002, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Eärniel
To me Arwen turning up at the end and marrying Aragorn was quite a big surprise.

Yeah, that was a big one for me too. I was like 'What the?...Where did she come from?' It took me a couple times through before I caught all the little Arwen-references in Lorien and such. Then I read the appendices.

***Khamûl*** · 04-17-2002, 09:54 PM

I have a problem with the maps. It's fine when I'm looking at them in the books, but when I pretend that I'm in Middle-Earth, I always picture Mordor to the west for some reason. And Gollum still kinda looks like a mutant frog in my imagination.

Agburanar · 04-18-2002, 04:12 AM

I didn't really understand the course of the Anduin, even though I had the maps. I also thought Edoras was in the Misty Mountains between Fangorn and Lorien the first time I read it.

Arathorn · 04-18-2002, 04:21 AM

After hearing the grown-ups talk about Middle-Earth during my childhood (yeah, I was young once) and before reading the books, I thought ME was the inner side of a hollow Earth and the inner core was it's sun. I think I got this idea because of the name itself.

04-17-2002, 06:14 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	misconceptions what were some misconceptions that you had when you first got into LOTR that suprised you either positively or negatively for me it was learning that Gandalf was not human __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

04-17-2002, 09:11 AM	#2
Strange-Looking Lurker Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OK, USA Posts: 213	For me it was learning that Bilbo was not the main character. __________________ <hr>Check out my site: www.christianjugglers.org

04-17-2002, 10:41 AM	#3
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	that people could think that Balrogs had wings __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

04-17-2002, 11:12 AM	#4
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	For me, I guess I was expecting to hate the book, because at that time, I disliked the Hobbit. However, I was pleasantly surprised to find that I liked it - although it took 3 readings before I was completely won over. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

04-17-2002, 12:11 PM	#6
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	Afro-elf, I must compliment you for devising the most thought-provoking threads. It took me a while to think of this, its been so long ago that I read LoTR, but here goes: (1) Gollum was a mutant frog (2) Elves were little, looked like the Grinch, and spoke with Austrian accents. (3) Orcs and Goblins are not the same creature __________________ “"I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider," Fear Complacency! ___________________ Something under the bed is drooling Last edited by barrelrider110 : 04-17-2002 at 12:13 PM.

04-17-2002, 12:34 PM	#7
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	Learning Biblo's ring was not just a rather fun, if at times trivial, toy. I had wanted the ring until I read the LotR, now I'd rather not have it. __________________ Boo!

04-17-2002, 12:50 PM	#9
StrawberryIcecream Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In my jeans Posts: 915	That after TRYING to read lord of the rings several times after finishing the hobbit, that the movie would be bsolute horse poo. Luckily it wasnt and it gave me the will power to read the books. I also imagined Frodo a heck of a lot different. Oh, and I thought Hobbits were the size of the borrowers!!! __________________ www.foolofatook.com for all you pippin's out there.

04-17-2002, 02:58 PM	#10
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	To me Arwen turning up at the end and marrying Aragorn was quite a big surprise. __________________ We are not things.

04-17-2002, 03:49 PM	#11
Glorious Glorfindel Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: im too doped up to remember Posts: 371	i dunno for me! maybe when i read that frodo and sam were gonna go off with that slimeball gollum, who i don't suppose is THAT much of a slimeball. he's still a pretty large slimeball though. im wittering now! i do like that word though! slimeballslimeballslimeball. i will leave now, don't worry! __________________ A Elbereth Gilthonial Silivren penna miriel o menal aglar elenath Na-chaered palan-diriel o galadhremmin ennorath Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, si nef aearon! add a drop of lavander to milk. leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.

04-17-2002, 05:04 PM	#12
Wulažg Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 306	That hobbits were so mischeivous. Although not nearly as mischeivous as in the movie. That and their almost ncanny attraction to muchrooms, which might explain why they are so short...

04-17-2002, 05:22 PM	#14
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	My perception of the elves was greatly changed from my perceptions after reading the "Hobbit". I was in the seemingly unique position of having never even heard of LoTR before I read it! So I benifited from having no preconceptions. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

04-17-2002, 06:10 PM	#16
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	The first time through the Fellowship, I was thinking Boromir was a dwarf.

04-17-2002, 09:54 PM	#18
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	I have a problem with the maps. It's fine when I'm looking at them in the books, but when I pretend that I'm in Middle-Earth, I always picture Mordor to the west for some reason. And Gollum still kinda looks like a mutant frog in my imagination. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

04-18-2002, 04:12 AM	#19
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	I didn't really understand the course of the Anduin, even though I had the maps. I also thought Edoras was in the Misty Mountains between Fangorn and Lorien the first time I read it. __________________ I would wish, were it to any avail, that the LORD OF THE RINGS FILMS had never been wrought. ROLLING STOCK, WE'RE ROLLING STOCK!!

04-18-2002, 04:21 AM	#20
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	After hearing the grown-ups talk about Middle-Earth during my childhood (yeah, I was young once) and before reading the books, I thought ME was the inner side of a hollow Earth and the inner core was it's sun. I think I got this idea because of the name itself. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...