Cool Stuff....

The Ringbearer · 04-13-2002, 07:40 AM

I don't know if anyone else reads the stuff at the end of TRotK, but I found some really cool tidbits there(mostly about our beloved Sam

).First, after Sam wedded Rosie,they had 13 children(they are luuuucky).They were named Elanor, Frodo, Merry, Pippin, Primrose, Bilbo, Ruby, Robin,and Tom. Sam became mayor 7 times until the end of his office. Then Rosie died soon after, so Sam gave the Red Book to Elenor, and rode to the Sea, went to the Grey Havens and stayed there with Frodo

Pippin(the original

)married Diamond of Long Cleeve, and their son was called Faramir.

Aragorn(now Lord Elessar)made the Shire a Free Land, and at one point,gave the Star of the Dunadain to Sam, and Elanor was made a maid of honor to Queen Arwen.

After all this, Legolas built a ship and sailed ''over the sea''(not to the Grey Havens), and Gimli went with him.

O.K...last one.On page 45 of TTT(it may differ by books), Treebeard said,'Taurelilomea-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurea Lomeanor. It means,'Forestmanyshadowed-deepvalleyblack Deepvalleyforested Gloomyland'

Oooooohhhhhh.....my fingers......

If you can add anything to this list, please do!

Lightice · 04-13-2002, 09:51 AM

We indeed have.
But Sam didn't stay at Gray Havens, nor was Frodo there, or ever had been, for long time. Gray Havens was the place where elvish ships set to leave Middle Earth for good, and sail to Valinor. Frodo stayed at isle of Tol Eressa near Valinor, though, but that already was part of Blessed Realm.
Just to clear things a bit.
But this I'll say, if one hasn't read the appendix, he hasn't understood the book.

samwise of the shire · 04-13-2002, 06:15 PM

Didn't Sam go with Legolas and Gimli to Tol Erresawhatsit?
Sam

elf_princess · 04-13-2002, 06:57 PM

Very interesting information folks! Thanks for sharing...

Lightice · 04-14-2002, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Didn't Sam go with Legolas and Gimli to Tol Erresawhatsit?
Sam

No. Legolas built his own ship. Sam just jumped to next ship leaving from Gray Havens.

Ërendil · 04-17-2002, 08:17 AM

What happened to Frodo and Sam? I mean the notes at the end says that Sam went to the Havens but what then? When did they die? When did all the characters die? (Apart from Pippin and Merry- it tells you them)

***azalea*** · 04-17-2002, 09:22 AM

I think eventually they would die in Valinor and have the same fate as men according to the will of Iluvitar. That is unknown.

Tar-Elendil · 04-18-2002, 09:39 PM

arwen dwelt with elessar for 6 score years and have a few daughters and one son ( i think..)..the son was named eldarion. one day aragornw alked to the silent street and laid himself down upon a long bed and died relinquishing his kingship to his son. arwen then went to lorien to live alone under the trees until the next winter when she laid herself upon Cerin Amroth and died there.

Wayfarer · 04-18-2002, 09:44 PM

Reeeaaalllly? I had nooo idea.

Congratulations! You've just taken your first step to becoming Nolondil. Scary!

emplynx · 04-19-2002, 05:24 PM

I havn't finished the appendix yet, there is another thread like this at http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...&threadid=3930

Faramir · 05-12-2002, 02:22 PM

That's pretty neat, TB. COOL!

04-13-2002, 07:40 AM	#1
The Ringbearer Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Crickhollow in the summer, and Rivendell in the winter Posts: 397	Cool Stuff.... I don't know if anyone else reads the stuff at the end of TRotK, but I found some really cool tidbits there(mostly about our beloved Sam ).First, after Sam wedded Rosie,they had 13 children(they are luuuucky).They were named Elanor, Frodo, Merry, Pippin, Primrose, Bilbo, Ruby, Robin,and Tom. Sam became mayor 7 times until the end of his office. Then Rosie died soon after, so Sam gave the Red Book to Elenor, and rode to the Sea, went to the Grey Havens and stayed there with Frodo Pippin(the original )married Diamond of Long Cleeve, and their son was called Faramir. Aragorn(now Lord Elessar)made the Shire a Free Land, and at one point,gave the Star of the Dunadain to Sam, and Elanor was made a maid of honor to Queen Arwen. After all this, Legolas built a ship and sailed ''over the sea''(not to the Grey Havens), and Gimli went with him. O.K...last one.On page 45 of TTT(it may differ by books), Treebeard said,'Taurelilomea-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurea Lomeanor. It means,'Forestmanyshadowed-deepvalleyblack Deepvalleyforested Gloomyland' Oooooohhhhhh.....my fingers...... If you can add anything to this list, please do! __________________ 'Go away, and never come back!!' '......what?' 'But you're a part of this world! Aren't you?' Frodo lives!

04-13-2002, 06:15 PM	#3
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	Didn't Sam go with Legolas and Gimli to Tol Erresawhatsit? Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

04-17-2002, 08:17 AM	#6
Ërendil Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 389	What happened to Frodo and Sam? I mean the notes at the end says that Sam went to the Havens but what then? When did they die? When did all the characters die? (Apart from Pippin and Merry- it tells you them) __________________ "You're one of the Abaharaki, oh I had forgotten. Look at me, I am completly drenched! I do hate the rain, it makes me so depressed..." "Hehehehe, moeru moeru!" "That's it, set it all on fire; we're gonna smoke out Escaflowne!" "Oh, I hit the wrong target... never mind that creature was useless to us anyway. Our orders were to get the girl? So he isn't our concern, we don't need him!" ^_^ Isn't Dilandau just fantastic? You just have to love the insane, murderous pyro :-D

04-18-2002, 09:39 PM	#8
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	arwen dwelt with elessar for 6 score years and have a few daughters and one son ( i think..)..the son was named eldarion. one day aragornw alked to the silent street and laid himself down upon a long bed and died relinquishing his kingship to his son. arwen then went to lorien to live alone under the trees until the next winter when she laid herself upon Cerin Amroth and died there. __________________ Why can we not be sober..

04-18-2002, 09:44 PM	#9
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Reeeaaalllly? I had nooo idea. Congratulations! You've just taken your first step to becoming Nolondil. Scary! __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

04-13-2002, 09:51 AM	#2
Lightice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 192	We indeed have. But Sam didn't stay at Gray Havens, nor was Frodo there, or ever had been, for long time. Gray Havens was the place where elvish ships set to leave Middle Earth for good, and sail to Valinor. Frodo stayed at isle of Tol Eressa near Valinor, though, but that already was part of Blessed Realm. Just to clear things a bit. But this I'll say, if one hasn't read the appendix, he hasn't understood the book.

04-13-2002, 06:57 PM	#4
elf_princess Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: la dee da Posts: 275	Very interesting information folks! Thanks for sharing...

04-17-2002, 09:22 AM	#7
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I think eventually they would die in Valinor and have the same fate as men according to the will of Iluvitar. That is unknown.

04-19-2002, 05:24 PM	#10
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I havn't finished the appendix yet, there is another thread like this at http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...&threadid=3930

05-12-2002, 02:22 PM	#11
Faramir Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ithilien Posts: 353	That's pretty neat, TB. COOL! __________________ This is the Window of the Sunset, Henneth Annun, fairest of all the falls of Ithilien, land of many fountains."-Faramir, Chapter IV, The Two Towers ========================== FRODO LIVES!!! ========================== YODA IS DA MAN!!! ========================== I Love Jesus!

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