Today's nations in LOTR

afro-elf · 03-15-2002, 01:38 AM

I see gondor as the great britian.

The last remains of a great empire
Great warriors and cultured ( at least that's the image)

Arnor Canada

cold few people once apart of the empire

Rohan America

Cowboys who can fight

rivendell switzerland

everyone goes there for meetings

lindon scandinavia

they make good ships but are not really part of the world scence

the lonely mountian germany

great engineers and warlike

can't think the others at the moment

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-15-2002, 01:49 AM

LOL. That's good. I especially like the Rohan-America one!

Pailan · 03-15-2002, 01:24 PM

Gondor = England

Arnor = Scotland

Rohan = Vikings on horseback

Rivendell = Wales

Lindon = The shores of Great Britian

Lonely Mountian = Girbralter

These are my lame guesses. Laugh at them if you will.

Elvet · 03-15-2002, 01:42 PM

Lindon - Scandinavia
Eriador - Canada
The Shire - England
Rohan - Germany
Gondor - America
Harad - Middle East

***IronParrot*** · 03-17-2002, 12:11 AM

Mordor = Afghanistan

FrodoFriend · 03-17-2002, 12:24 AM

That's mean!

Lothlorien - India

Laketown - Australia

afro-elf · 03-17-2002, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pailan
Gondor = England

Arnor = Scotland

Rohan = Vikings on horseback

Rivendell = Wales

Lindon = The shores of Great Britian

Lonely Mountian = Girbralter

These are my lame guesses. Laugh at them if you will.

OK HA HA

afro-elf · 03-17-2002, 12:29 AM

You guys forgot to say WHY these places were like that to you.

Elvet · 03-17-2002, 10:27 AM

Regarding my choices:
Lindon - Scandinavia
Eriador - Canada
The Shire - England
Rohan - Germany
Gondor - America
Harad - Middle East

I chose these not so much by the inhabitants, but more by geography and climate. One can argue thast the inhabitants evolve societies dictated by the physical constraints of their environment. I am reminded of the Brits when I read about Hobbits , but the other races of Middle-earth don't bring to mind any one distinct present day society.
I might amend my list by saying that I don't known much about the climate and geography of Harad, so it may equally be suited to the mediterranean races.

StrawberryIcecream · 03-17-2002, 10:55 AM

Oh cool!!!!!!! I'm a hobbit!!!!!!!!! I completly agree with you avtually, England is the shire! Wow!!! I must go dig a hole in the back of my garden!!!!!!!

im a hobbit im a hobbit im a hobbit!!!!!

Khadrane · 03-17-2002, 12:41 PM

Mordor- I would say Afganistan, but to avoid someone saying "That's mean" I will say the Taliban even though that's not a nation

Gondor- USA

Rohan- Canada (If Gondor is USA, then Rohan would have to be a nearby friendly nation)

The Shire- England's great for the Shire

That's all I can think of.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-17-2002, 02:34 PM

Well, I suppose you could say that Afghanistan is Mordor, not that I would agree, but because there were a lot of slaves in Mordor who probably did not want to be there. But I really can't talk about this subject without getting into a really wierd discussion in which I contradict myself about twenty times, so I guess I'll end this post now.

Radagast The Brown · 03-17-2002, 03:38 PM

Mordor- Iraq (it the worst nation in the world to us)

Gondor- England

Ruhan- Scotland

Harad- I don't know... maybe Afganistan

Lothlorien- the forests in South America

I can't think on some nation to The Shire.

***IronParrot*** · 03-17-2002, 08:39 PM

Quote:

"Mordor- Iraq (it the worst nation in the world to us)"

Please capitalize "US" to avoid confusion.

I actually think Mordor is the United States of America. It's big, it's got a huge military, it pollutes a lot, and it corrupts the rest of the world with its materialistic and commercial culture. It is also the paragon of greedy capitalist exploitation of the less fortunate and impoverished peoples of the world. Hah! I bet the Americans even think they invented hockey and donuts and maple syrup! American donuts are but mockeries, as Trolls are of Ents and Orcs of Elves...

By the way, I'm only partly serious.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-17-2002, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronParrot

I actually think Mordor is the United States of America. It's big, it's got a huge military, it pollutes a lot, and it corrupts the rest of the world with its materialistic and commercial culture. It is also the paragon of greedy capitalist exploitation of the less fortunate and impoverished peoples of the world. Hah! I bet the Americans even think they invented hockey and donuts and maple syrup! American donuts are but mockeries, as Trolls are of Ents and Orcs of Elves...

By the way, I'm only partly serious.

I couldn't agree more.

I think we do believe we invented those things. . .

Cirdan · 03-17-2002, 09:57 PM

The parallel is interesting. Is the ring of power, made of gold, symbolize corrupt greed and lust for ultimate power and control that lures the weak of character? Sauron's power to control originated through intimidation He holds in contempt all that is not within his control or of his making. The only country that has ever used nuclear weapons and actually is now contemplating using them "tactically" is the U.S.

The real truth is that no nation of peoples is evil or good. It is the government that they allow themselves to be controlled by. Wars would end if individuals didn't allow theemselves to be used to kill total strangers that may or may not have wronged someone in their country. Most armies are made up of conscripts.

Free you mind anf the world will follow

***IronParrot*** · 03-17-2002, 10:10 PM

Quote:

"The real truth is that no nation of peoples is evil or good."

Canada is good!

Cirdan · 03-17-2002, 11:12 PM

I've only been to Toronto. I know unlike Americans, MOST Canadians don't cross against the signal. The food was evil, though

Laurelyn · 03-18-2002, 07:48 AM

I agree with IronParrot: Mordor could very well be America.
*Looks innocent; starts whistling* My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty . . .
Lorien= someplace with a lot of rain forests.

Can't think of any others.

Dwarven Sen · 03-18-2002, 08:22 AM

you cannot condem england to the shire please i beg of you
i would rather be anywhere than the shire please god nooooo
i would say that the french are the corsairs of umbar because i hate the bistards with a passion
i would like to be in gondor and can we put germany as harad cos who would go there ever if they had a choice
where are the misty mountains in all of this
Ive never been good at geography of this earth but can we put erebor as far away from france as possible please if you do i may even use punctuation

03-15-2002, 01:38 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Today's nations in LOTR I see gondor as the great britian. The last remains of a great empire Great warriors and cultured ( at least that's the image) Arnor Canada cold few people once apart of the empire Rohan America Cowboys who can fight rivendell switzerland everyone goes there for meetings lindon scandinavia they make good ships but are not really part of the world scence the lonely mountian germany great engineers and warlike can't think the others at the moment __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-15-2002, 01:49 AM	#2
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	LOL. That's good. I especially like the Rohan-America one! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-15-2002, 01:24 PM	#3
Pailan Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aisle 12, seat#2 Posts: 449	Re: Today's nations in LOTR Gondor = England Arnor = Scotland Rohan = Vikings on horseback Rivendell = Wales Lindon = The shores of Great Britian Lonely Mountian = Girbralter These are my lame guesses. Laugh at them if you will. __________________ "Holy Entmoot, Batman!" "Who knows, Robin? This strange mixing of minds may be the greatest single sevice ever performed for humanity! Let's go, but, inconspicuosly, through the window. We'll use our Batropes. Our job is finished." Oh, btw, Frodo lives. Last edited by Pailan : 03-15-2002 at 01:25 PM.

03-15-2002, 01:42 PM	#4
Elvet Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Orillia, Ontario Posts: 221	Lindon - Scandinavia Eriador - Canada The Shire - England Rohan - Germany Gondor - America Harad - Middle East __________________ "But do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know."

03-17-2002, 12:11 AM	#5
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	Mordor = Afghanistan __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

03-17-2002, 12:24 AM	#6
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	That's mean! Lothlorien - India Laketown - Australia __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-17-2002, 12:29 AM	#8
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	You guys forgot to say WHY these places were like that to you. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-17-2002, 10:27 AM	#9
Elvet Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Orillia, Ontario Posts: 221	Regarding my choices: Lindon - Scandinavia Eriador - Canada The Shire - England Rohan - Germany Gondor - America Harad - Middle East I chose these not so much by the inhabitants, but more by geography and climate. One can argue thast the inhabitants evolve societies dictated by the physical constraints of their environment. I am reminded of the Brits when I read about Hobbits , but the other races of Middle-earth don't bring to mind any one distinct present day society. I might amend my list by saying that I don't known much about the climate and geography of Harad, so it may equally be suited to the mediterranean races. __________________ "But do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know."

03-17-2002, 10:55 AM	#10
StrawberryIcecream Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In my jeans Posts: 915	Oh cool!!!!!!! I'm a hobbit!!!!!!!!! I completly agree with you avtually, England is the shire! Wow!!! I must go dig a hole in the back of my garden!!!!!!! im a hobbit im a hobbit im a hobbit!!!!! __________________ www.foolofatook.com for all you pippin's out there.

03-17-2002, 12:41 PM	#11
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	Mordor- I would say Afganistan, but to avoid someone saying "That's mean" I will say the Taliban even though that's not a nation Gondor- USA Rohan- Canada (If Gondor is USA, then Rohan would have to be a nearby friendly nation) The Shire- England's great for the Shire That's all I can think of. __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-17-2002, 02:34 PM	#12
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Well, I suppose you could say that Afghanistan is Mordor, not that I would agree, but because there were a lot of slaves in Mordor who probably did not want to be there. But I really can't talk about this subject without getting into a really wierd discussion in which I contradict myself about twenty times, so I guess I'll end this post now. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-17-2002, 03:38 PM	#13
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Mordor- Iraq (it the worst nation in the world to us) Gondor- England Ruhan- Scotland Harad- I don't know... maybe Afganistan Lothlorien- the forests in South America I can't think on some nation to The Shire. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-17-2002, 09:57 PM	#16
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	The parallel is interesting. Is the ring of power, made of gold, symbolize corrupt greed and lust for ultimate power and control that lures the weak of character? Sauron's power to control originated through intimidation He holds in contempt all that is not within his control or of his making. The only country that has ever used nuclear weapons and actually is now contemplating using them "tactically" is the U.S. The real truth is that no nation of peoples is evil or good. It is the government that they allow themselves to be controlled by. Wars would end if individuals didn't allow theemselves to be used to kill total strangers that may or may not have wronged someone in their country. Most armies are made up of conscripts. Free you mind anf the world will follow __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

03-17-2002, 11:12 PM	#18
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	I've only been to Toronto. I know unlike Americans, MOST Canadians don't cross against the signal. The food was evil, though __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

03-18-2002, 07:48 AM	#19
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	I agree with IronParrot: Mordor could very well be America. Looks innocent; starts whistling My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty . . . Lorien= someplace with a lot of rain forests. Can't think of any others. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

03-18-2002, 08:22 AM	#20
Dwarven Sen Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Edinburgh University Library Posts: 410	you cannot condem england to the shire please i beg of you i would rather be anywhere than the shire please god nooooo i would say that the french are the corsairs of umbar because i hate the bistards with a passion i would like to be in gondor and can we put germany as harad cos who would go there ever if they had a choice where are the misty mountains in all of this Ive never been good at geography of this earth but can we put erebor as far away from france as possible please if you do i may even use punctuation __________________ Destroy the dementors not the demented. Dont heckle the supervillain Note to Self: Remember that sarcasm is hard to detect from text. What ever you do, don't click this link! my LJ

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