the sons of elrond

afro-elf · 03-11-2002, 05:20 AM

it seems that the sons of elrond are truly down played.

their paternal grandfather is Earendil and their maternal grand ma is Galadriel

with the influx of those genes i would think that they would be kickass elven LORDS

But in the book they seem like really handsome rangers

however i THINK that in LOTR elrond said he sent several riders out to look for the fellow ship maybe they went too.

Findegil · 03-11-2002, 09:00 AM

Yes that's quiet possible. And I think they were also out as scouts after the battle at the ford, to look were the Nazgul had been washed to.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-11-2002, 10:29 AM

Yeah, I know they were sent out to look for the Nazgul after Frodo's arrival in Rivendell--or maybe a few days before. I really like the sons of Elrond, they're great characters, but they don't do enough in the books! But they do go wandering around killing orcs, in vengeance, because orcs killed their mother. Now that's something I wish Tolkien had written more of!

afro-elf · 03-11-2002, 10:40 AM

Orcs didn't kill their mom. But they did wound her and she went over sea.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-11-2002, 11:00 AM

Really? Okay. . .I have to read the appendices again. But they did torture her. . .the point was, they went around avenging her. Whatever. Thanks for clarifying that, Afro-elf.

Ñólendil · 03-11-2002, 12:07 PM

All of Elrond's children are down-played, aren't they? Otherwise Peter Jackson wouldn't feel inclined to expand Arwen's character for the movies. Arwen has more importance in the story than her brothers, but none of them get enough time in the narrative. I'm not finding fault, it's just that there are a lot of really cool characters who are only touched upon. Look at the chieftains who rode into Gondor for the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Look at Imrahil (one of the chieftains I know) and Haldir and Gildor.

Ararax · 03-11-2002, 12:14 PM

one of my favorite characters who isnt mentioned is harabad i know really bad sp but he is aragorns cousin and he is called one of the greatest warriors of that time. its a shame he dies soon after being introduced i wanted to know more about him

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-11-2002, 12:36 PM

There are SO many characters in Lord of the Rings that I want to hear more about! Especially the sons of Elrond, Halbarad, Imrahil. . .the list goes on. . .

Elvet · 03-11-2002, 02:15 PM

I think this ties in with the ' where were the elves' post. The time of elves was waning, and our focus was drawn to men. Not that I wouldn't have wanted more elaboration, though. I am reading Unfinished Tales and really enjoy the more indepth info about the Silmarillion characters.

Ararax · 03-11-2002, 02:55 PM

aye and there are some characters in the unfinished tales that are barely in the sim and lotr such as the pukelmen who are some of my personal favs

Earenya · 03-11-2002, 03:04 PM

I agree, but part of that makes it so much more like a history rather than just a story (which would've left out all the extraneous characters). So many times there are people that you hear about only once or twice, and you know they were fascinating/important people...

afro-elf · 03-11-2002, 03:15 PM

Yes there are tons of characters in the books I would love to hear more about

Of the Elves glorfindel, gildor, ecthelion, mablung

men Imrahil and ekenbrand come to mind yes harabad(sp?)

dwarves azaghal

03-11-2002, 05:20 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	the sons of elrond it seems that the sons of elrond are truly down played. their paternal grandfather is Earendil and their maternal grand ma is Galadriel with the influx of those genes i would think that they would be kickass elven LORDS But in the book they seem like really handsome rangers however i THINK that in LOTR elrond said he sent several riders out to look for the fellow ship maybe they went too. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-11-2002, 10:29 AM	#3
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Yeah, I know they were sent out to look for the Nazgul after Frodo's arrival in Rivendell--or maybe a few days before. I really like the sons of Elrond, they're great characters, but they don't do enough in the books! But they do go wandering around killing orcs, in vengeance, because orcs killed their mother. Now that's something I wish Tolkien had written more of! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-11-2002, 10:40 AM	#4
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Orcs didn't kill their mom. But they did wound her and she went over sea. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-11-2002, 11:00 AM	#5
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Really? Okay. . .I have to read the appendices again. But they did torture her. . .the point was, they went around avenging her. Whatever. Thanks for clarifying that, Afro-elf. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-11-2002, 12:07 PM	#6
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	All of Elrond's children are down-played, aren't they? Otherwise Peter Jackson wouldn't feel inclined to expand Arwen's character for the movies. Arwen has more importance in the story than her brothers, but none of them get enough time in the narrative. I'm not finding fault, it's just that there are a lot of really cool characters who are only touched upon. Look at the chieftains who rode into Gondor for the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Look at Imrahil (one of the chieftains I know) and Haldir and Gildor. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

03-11-2002, 09:00 AM	#2
Findegil Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Geilenkirchen, Germany Posts: 192	Yes that's quiet possible. And I think they were also out as scouts after the battle at the ford, to look were the Nazgul had been washed to.

03-11-2002, 12:14 PM	#7
Ararax Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NEW JERSEY! Posts: 375	one of my favorite characters who isnt mentioned is harabad i know really bad sp but he is aragorns cousin and he is called one of the greatest warriors of that time. its a shame he dies soon after being introduced i wanted to know more about him __________________ Woah Deep

03-11-2002, 12:36 PM	#8
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	There are SO many characters in Lord of the Rings that I want to hear more about! Especially the sons of Elrond, Halbarad, Imrahil. . .the list goes on. . . __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-11-2002, 02:15 PM	#9
Elvet Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Orillia, Ontario Posts: 221	I think this ties in with the ' where were the elves' post. The time of elves was waning, and our focus was drawn to men. Not that I wouldn't have wanted more elaboration, though. I am reading Unfinished Tales and really enjoy the more indepth info about the Silmarillion characters. __________________ "But do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know."

03-11-2002, 02:55 PM	#10
Ararax Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NEW JERSEY! Posts: 375	aye and there are some characters in the unfinished tales that are barely in the sim and lotr such as the pukelmen who are some of my personal favs __________________ Woah Deep

03-11-2002, 03:04 PM	#11
Earenya Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pinnath Gelin, formerly in Angaron... Posts: 228	I agree, but part of that makes it so much more like a history rather than just a story (which would've left out all the extraneous characters). So many times there are people that you hear about only once or twice, and you know they were fascinating/important people... __________________ O mor henion i dhu Ely siriar, el sila Ai! Aniron.... Tiro! El eria e mor I 'lir en el luitha 'uren Ai! Aniron... FRODO LIVES!

03-11-2002, 03:15 PM	#12
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Yes there are tons of characters in the books I would love to hear more about Of the Elves glorfindel, gildor, ecthelion, mablung men Imrahil and ekenbrand come to mind yes harabad(sp?) dwarves azaghal __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

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