The best Swordsman?

Brimvalir · 02-14-2002, 06:54 PM

Who do you think is the best Swordsman ?? Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir or Eomer?

spidersbane · 02-14-2002, 07:18 PM

I would have to say Aragorn. After all, he is the king, and he has the best sword. It doesn't matter how good you are without the right blade.

FrodoFriend · 02-14-2002, 11:29 PM

Yeah, I'd say Aragorn too. Then Faramir, Boromir, and Eomer.

Evenstar · 02-14-2002, 11:40 PM

Cause couldn't he kill alot of baddies with one sweep of the sword!!! Go..go..kill..kill!!

markedel · 02-15-2002, 06:30 AM

Fingon-didn't he go toe to toe with Morgoth

That's bloody hard

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 02-15-2002, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by markedel
Fingon-didn't he go toe to toe with Morgoth

That's bloody hard

I believe you are thinking of Fingon's father Fingolfin.

markedel · 02-15-2002, 01:56 PM

Uh yes, I never get the names in the Silmarillion correct

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 02-15-2002, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by markedel
Uh yes, I never get the names in the Silmarillion correct

That is quite understandable, considering there were only a trillion names, and half of them started with the letter F.

Wayfarer · 02-16-2002, 01:25 PM

F and M.

I would say Maedhros was a better swordsman than fingolfin. Perhaps Feanor was as well.

But, from the examples stated:

Aragorn (bad@$$ ranger, lifelong fighter)
Boromir (Highly trained, soldier)
Faramir (less combat-like, but still skilled)
Eomer (A wild guy, not much for skill)

afro-elf · 02-17-2002, 10:30 AM

Wayfarer WHY do you think the other two were better than Fingolfin?

Captain Stern · 02-17-2002, 10:56 AM

Wasn't the original question: 'Who do you think is the best Swordsman ?? Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir or Eomer?'

So why bring the eldar into this. Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir and Eomer can't compete against the likes of Fingon. Anyway, the answer is obviously Aragorn, and at the bottom of the heap is probably Eomer.

Also, I think there was more to a battle involving elf lords and ainur than just swordsplay, just look at the battle between Gandalf and Durin's Bane as an example.

There's only one passage in the Silmarillion that puts Fingolfin above Feanor in terms of 'strength' as opposed to a whole host of passages which describes Feanor as having no equal in any aspect of mind or body.

Maedhros was described as being a bit of a bad-ass after having his hand chopped off by Fingon, so it's debatable whether he was mightier than Fingolfin, I tend to leen on Maedhros if pressed for an answer.

markedel · 02-17-2002, 11:37 AM

You think Boromir>Eomer

Nah I go for the king any day.

Laurelyn · 02-17-2002, 12:33 PM

As far as this ranking goes my vote is Aragorn, son of Arathorn, also known as Strider, the Dunedain, Estel . . . aka the dude with WAY TOO MANY NAMES!

***Earniel*** · 02-17-2002, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Laurelyn
As far as this ranking goes my vote is Aragorn, son of Arathorn, also known as Strider, the Dunedain, Estel . . . aka the dude with WAY TOO MANY NAMES!

Huh, no kidding...

Ñólendil · 02-17-2002, 05:52 PM

Éowyn realizes in The Steward and the King that Faramir was a man no one among the Rohirrim could match in battle, so Éomer is out of the running right there. I don't know who's the better warrior between Boromir and Faramir, but I agree Aragorn is definitely the best of them.

Comic Book Guy · 02-17-2002, 08:09 PM

Don't hold me to this, I'm not too familar to the Silmarillion, but isn't Húrin considered to be the greatest Warrior of the Race of Men?

Arathorn · 02-17-2002, 08:37 PM

not to mention that Aragorn is quite young for someone of the line of Luthien; only around 70 yrs old at that time!

Captain Stern · 02-18-2002, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Comic Book Guy: Don't hold me to this, I'm not too familar to the Silmarillion, but isn't Húrin considered to be the greatest Warrior of the Race of Men?

Yes he was, it says so in 'Of the Ruin of Doriath:'

Then he turned away, and passed out from the Thousand Caves, and all that saw him fell back before his face; and none sought to withstand his going, nor did any know whither he went. But it is said that Hurin would not live thereafter, being bereft or all purpose and desire, and cast himself at last into the western sea; and so ended the mightiest of the warriors of Mortal men.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this come into dispute at all in this thread? [Rhetorical question] The choices given were of men in the 3rd Age, not men in general.

emplynx · 02-18-2002, 11:54 AM

In LotR, Aragorn was definitely the best Swords man. I don't know to much about the 1st age fighters (yet) so I can't make a statement on that.

Ñólendil · 02-18-2002, 02:55 PM

You're right Captain, you read the first post here correctly. We're talking about four guys from the Lord of the Rings, folks, or that's what Brimvalir was going for. ... Speaking of which, I'm moving this to the LotR Books forum.

02-14-2002, 06:54 PM	#1
Brimvalir Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: California Posts: 103	The best Swordsman? Who do you think is the best Swordsman ?? Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir or Eomer? __________________ Swords are of no more use here ... All that is gold does not glitter nor are all those who wander lost......

02-14-2002, 07:18 PM	#2
spidersbane Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 42	I would have to say Aragorn. After all, he is the king, and he has the best sword. It doesn't matter how good you are without the right blade. __________________ For the less even as for the greater there is some deed that he may accomplish but once only; and in that deed his heart shall rest. — Feanor, from the Quenta Silmarillion. "Never give a sword to a man who can't dance" (Celtic Proverb) "Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't."

02-14-2002, 11:29 PM	#3
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Yeah, I'd say Aragorn too. Then Faramir, Boromir, and Eomer. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-14-2002, 11:40 PM	#4
Evenstar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Neverneverland Posts: 215	Aragorn!! Cause couldn't he kill alot of baddies with one sweep of the sword!!! Go..go..kill..kill!! __________________ "Frodo, Mr Frodo," he called. "Don't leave me here alone. It's your Sam calling. Don't you go where I can't follow." FRODO LIVES !!!!

02-15-2002, 06:30 AM	#5
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Fingon-didn't he go toe to toe with Morgoth That's bloody hard __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-15-2002, 01:56 PM	#7
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Uh yes, I never get the names in the Silmarillion correct __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-16-2002, 01:25 PM	#9
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	F and M. I would say Maedhros was a better swordsman than fingolfin. Perhaps Feanor was as well. But, from the examples stated: Aragorn (bad@$$ ranger, lifelong fighter) Boromir (Highly trained, soldier) Faramir (less combat-like, but still skilled) Eomer (A wild guy, not much for skill) __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-17-2002, 10:30 AM	#10
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Wayfarer WHY do you think the other two were better than Fingolfin? __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

02-17-2002, 10:56 AM	#11
Captain Stern Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 319	RE: The best Swordsman? Wasn't the original question: 'Who do you think is the best Swordsman ?? Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir or Eomer?' So why bring the eldar into this. Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir and Eomer can't compete against the likes of Fingon. Anyway, the answer is obviously Aragorn, and at the bottom of the heap is probably Eomer. Also, I think there was more to a battle involving elf lords and ainur than just swordsplay, just look at the battle between Gandalf and Durin's Bane as an example. There's only one passage in the Silmarillion that puts Fingolfin above Feanor in terms of 'strength' as opposed to a whole host of passages which describes Feanor as having no equal in any aspect of mind or body. Maedhros was described as being a bit of a bad-ass after having his hand chopped off by Fingon, so it's debatable whether he was mightier than Fingolfin, I tend to leen on Maedhros if pressed for an answer. __________________ Then hate overcame Fëanor's fear, and he cursed Melkor and bade him be gone, saying 'Get thee gone from my gate, thou jail-crow of Mandos!' And he shut the doors of his house in the face of the mightiest of all dwellers in Eä. Last edited by Captain Stern : 02-17-2002 at 10:57 AM.

02-17-2002, 11:37 AM	#12
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	You think Boromir>Eomer Nah I go for the king any day. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-17-2002, 12:33 PM	#13
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	As far as this ranking goes my vote is Aragorn, son of Arathorn, also known as Strider, the Dunedain, Estel . . . aka the dude with WAY TOO MANY NAMES! __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

02-17-2002, 05:52 PM	#15
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Éowyn realizes in The Steward and the King that Faramir was a man no one among the Rohirrim could match in battle, so Éomer is out of the running right there. I don't know who's the better warrior between Boromir and Faramir, but I agree Aragorn is definitely the best of them. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

02-17-2002, 08:09 PM	#16
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Don't hold me to this, I'm not too familar to the Silmarillion, but isn't Húrin considered to be the greatest Warrior of the Race of Men?

02-17-2002, 08:37 PM	#17
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	not to mention that Aragorn is quite young for someone of the line of Luthien; only around 70 yrs old at that time! __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

02-18-2002, 11:54 AM	#19
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	In LotR, Aragorn was definitely the best Swords man. I don't know to much about the 1st age fighters (yet) so I can't make a statement on that.

02-18-2002, 02:55 PM	#20
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	You're right Captain, you read the first post here correctly. We're talking about four guys from the Lord of the Rings, folks, or that's what Brimvalir was going for. ... Speaking of which, I'm moving this to the LotR Books forum. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

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