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LuthienTinuviel · 02-08-2002, 08:53 PM

arwen IS at helms deep..

i just saw confirmed pictures of the helms deep background, and it's the same kind of colour and rock and statue that arwen is at on the spoiler site that bropous posted a while back.. i think it is in the Cut Scenes post.

and now the window is gone too.. i'll try to get the address back, but it won't be easy.

now all i can do is hope that they were talking about the return trip maye it's a photo of RotK?

i would rather have them mess with the return trip and swing by helms deep than the have them mess with the battle itself.

oh well.. i guess now it truly IS written in stone..

well poo.

Sakata · 02-09-2002, 02:57 AM

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! *banging fists on ground* Tell me it isnt True!!! Damn you PJ!!!!!!!!

luinilwen · 02-09-2002, 06:24 AM

*sigh* at least we've still got the books, eh?

*walks off muttering obscenities about liv tyler and peter jackson*

Pailan · 02-09-2002, 11:22 AM

I belive Arwen at Helm's Deep footage was shot, but I think it has been dropped from the movie. If you go here you will find avery well researched list of film changes which differ from the book. The whole Arwen thing is given a 1/5 probability of actually being true. We have ten months to go, so don't have a heart attack yet.

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Some of the other possible changes iinclude the Saruman impalement and Legolas surfing on a sheild. Be fore warned, some of this stuff is nothing but rumors....

Twilight · 02-09-2002, 11:39 AM

That is a very good link. Thanks.

Pailan · 02-09-2002, 11:45 AM

Thanks. If I find good and fun info, I like to pass it along. I bookmarked it just about a year back. Mind you, it's not gospel just good efforts in finding what's out there, rumors or otherwise.

samwise of the shire · 02-09-2002, 05:13 PM

You can't always depend on the pictures, there are pictures of Midgewater, of the trolls,of the elves, of the Shire that aren't even IN the movie, so dont trust the pictures. They dont tell you anything just that "this is what the characters look like"Other than that they give ZILCH as to what'll happen in the movie, so dont start despairing yet.
Sam

FrodoFriend · 02-09-2002, 06:10 PM

Dern it! Too much Arwen!

Legolas surfing on the shield sounds kinda cool though.

Starr Polish · 02-09-2002, 07:48 PM

I guess we won't know until we see the movie, but for some reason I highly doubt this is true.

samwise of the shire · 02-14-2002, 02:54 PM

I agree with Starr Like I said you CANNOT trust the pictures as to what the content of the movie is so I wouldn't worry about it. If she's in she's in. If not then rejoice.
Sam

bropous · 02-14-2002, 03:47 PM

Well, I looked at the tolkienonline site, and right off the bat, it said that the plate armor on the Uruk-Hai was "grafted" on. Huh???? Wrong-o.

As for the rest, who knows? All I know is I am gonna read this further....

dark over lord · 02-14-2002, 10:32 PM

i wish pj didn't even add arwen. it doesn't leave room fot the real love intrest in the book: wats his name daughter

markedel · 02-15-2002, 06:30 AM

It's not like Aragorn didn't love Arwen, it's just that one woman isn't enough. Of course it makes Eowyn's life much harder.

Eowyn: Oh Aragorn please don't go

Aragorn: (looks stern and kinglike)

Arwen: What this a rider taken by surprise

Eowyn: Forth eorlingas!

(the A +E wrestle in jello)

Aragorn: (looks stern and kinglike)

***Earniel*** · 02-17-2002, 02:26 PM

*considers the possibility of Arwen at Helm's Deep, shudders, starts praying, please don't let her be there, please don't let her be there, please don't let her be there....*

I for one have always been in favour of portraying women in another role that decoratively beautiful and damsel in distress. But if you make a movie of a book, the least you can do is stick to that book.

ten months to go...oh the agony!

Tanoliel · 02-18-2002, 07:30 PM

ten months...*sob* I can't handle suriviving that long!

I really hope Arwen's not at helm's deep...and the other elves and whatnot. It's just so much cooler that the little band of Rohoirrim goes forth so courageously, and wins, too...not to mention all the trees.

And then Gandalf brings Earkenbrand (sp?), and NO ELVES ARE THER EXCEPT LEGOLAS. So there...*crosses fingers*
-tano
"Yes, preciousss....we loves it, don't we, precious...." -me on reading LOTR for the first time

Laurelyn · 02-18-2002, 10:05 PM

They're putting Arwen in the battle at Helm's deep? Oh, dear Eru, nobody told me that it was going to be a LotR / Xena crossover.

markedel · 02-19-2002, 07:50 AM

And the elves being there destroys a major theme of the mythology.

Aragorns Dimple · 02-19-2002, 09:08 AM

So Arwen will be at Helms Deep, I just hope that she can add some more interest to the fight scenes so it's not all Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn. And Gandalf the White will be there too, on his spanky white mount Shadowfax, looking very Wizardly!

And I can't wait to see Eowyn pouting at Aragorn, that would be MUCH more of a temptation than that blasted Ring.....!!!! Will he pass the test, folks????

Pailan · 02-19-2002, 09:16 AM

Well I see a lot of folk are jumping on the Arwen will be fighting at helms deep. Please be careful with rumors as you go.

markedel · 02-19-2002, 03:34 PM

If Aragorn decides to go with Eowyn...

LOL that would be so hilarious just because it would annoy everyone

02-08-2002, 08:53 PM	#1
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	read this arwen IS at helms deep.. i just saw confirmed pictures of the helms deep background, and it's the same kind of colour and rock and statue that arwen is at on the spoiler site that bropous posted a while back.. i think it is in the Cut Scenes post. and now the window is gone too.. i'll try to get the address back, but it won't be easy. now all i can do is hope that they were talking about the return trip maye it's a photo of RotK? i would rather have them mess with the return trip and swing by helms deep than the have them mess with the battle itself. oh well.. i guess now it truly IS written in stone.. well poo. __________________

02-09-2002, 02:57 AM	#2
Sakata Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 216	NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! banging fists on ground Tell me it isnt True!!! Damn you PJ!!!!!!!! __________________ "When evil people come to destroy me, when my enemies and foes attack me, they will stumble and fall. Though a mighty army surrounds me, my heart will know no fear." -Psalms 27:2-3 -Dare you venture into Gollum's Lair? JESUS LIVES!

02-09-2002, 11:22 AM	#4
Pailan Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aisle 12, seat#2 Posts: 449	I belive Arwen at Helm's Deep footage was shot, but I think it has been dropped from the movie. If you go here you will find avery well researched list of film changes which differ from the book. The whole Arwen thing is given a 1/5 probability of actually being true. We have ten months to go, so don't have a heart attack yet. . Some of the other possible changes iinclude the Saruman impalement and Legolas surfing on a sheild. Be fore warned, some of this stuff is nothing but rumors.... __________________ "Holy Entmoot, Batman!" "Who knows, Robin? This strange mixing of minds may be the greatest single sevice ever performed for humanity! Let's go, but, inconspicuosly, through the window. We'll use our Batropes. Our job is finished." Oh, btw, Frodo lives. Last edited by Pailan : 02-09-2002 at 11:24 AM.

02-09-2002, 11:39 AM	#5
Twilight Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wilmore, KY Posts: 269	That is a very good link. Thanks. __________________ Sometimes I wonder how many monkeys with typewritters it would take to reproduce what I just wrote.

02-09-2002, 11:45 AM	#6
Pailan Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aisle 12, seat#2 Posts: 449	Thanks. If I find good and fun info, I like to pass it along. I bookmarked it just about a year back. Mind you, it's not gospel just good efforts in finding what's out there, rumors or otherwise. __________________ "Holy Entmoot, Batman!" "Who knows, Robin? This strange mixing of minds may be the greatest single sevice ever performed for humanity! Let's go, but, inconspicuosly, through the window. We'll use our Batropes. Our job is finished." Oh, btw, Frodo lives.

02-09-2002, 06:24 AM	#3
luinilwen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney AUSTRALIA Posts: 368	sigh at least we've still got the books, eh? walks off muttering obscenities about liv tyler and peter jackson

02-09-2002, 05:13 PM	#7
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	You can't always depend on the pictures, there are pictures of Midgewater, of the trolls,of the elves, of the Shire that aren't even IN the movie, so dont trust the pictures. They dont tell you anything just that "this is what the characters look like"Other than that they give ZILCH as to what'll happen in the movie, so dont start despairing yet. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

02-09-2002, 06:10 PM	#8
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Dern it! Too much Arwen! Legolas surfing on the shield sounds kinda cool though. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-09-2002, 07:48 PM	#9
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I guess we won't know until we see the movie, but for some reason I highly doubt this is true. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

02-14-2002, 02:54 PM	#10
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	I agree with Starr Like I said you CANNOT trust the pictures as to what the content of the movie is so I wouldn't worry about it. If she's in she's in. If not then rejoice. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

02-14-2002, 03:47 PM	#11
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Well, I looked at the tolkienonline site, and right off the bat, it said that the plate armor on the Uruk-Hai was "grafted" on. Huh???? Wrong-o. As for the rest, who knows? All I know is I am gonna read this further.... __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

02-14-2002, 10:32 PM	#12
dark over lord Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 41	i wish pj didn't even add arwen. it doesn't leave room fot the real love intrest in the book: wats his name daughter __________________ The question which once haunted my being has been answered. The future is not fixed, and my choices are my own. And yet, how ironic, for now I find, I have no choice at all. I am a warrior, let the battled be joined. -dinobot, and me, before i went and got myself shot- The sleeper has awakend, i am the prince of all sayans once again-Vegeta-

02-15-2002, 06:30 AM	#13
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	It's not like Aragorn didn't love Arwen, it's just that one woman isn't enough. Of course it makes Eowyn's life much harder. Eowyn: Oh Aragorn please don't go Aragorn: (looks stern and kinglike) Arwen: What this a rider taken by surprise Eowyn: Forth eorlingas! (the A +E wrestle in jello) Aragorn: (looks stern and kinglike) __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-17-2002, 02:26 PM	#14
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	considers the possibility of Arwen at Helm's Deep, shudders, starts praying, please don't let her be there, please don't let her be there, please don't let her be there.... I for one have always been in favour of portraying women in another role that decoratively beautiful and damsel in distress. But if you make a movie of a book, the least you can do is stick to that book. ten months to go...oh the agony!

02-18-2002, 07:30 PM	#15
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	TEN!? ten months...sob I can't handle suriviving that long! I really hope Arwen's not at helm's deep...and the other elves and whatnot. It's just so much cooler that the little band of Rohoirrim goes forth so courageously, and wins, too...not to mention all the trees. And then Gandalf brings Earkenbrand (sp?), and NO ELVES ARE THER EXCEPT LEGOLAS. So there...crosses fingers -tano "Yes, preciousss....we loves it, don't we, precious...." -me on reading LOTR for the first time __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

02-18-2002, 10:05 PM	#16
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	They're putting Arwen in the battle at Helm's deep? Oh, dear Eru, nobody told me that it was going to be a LotR / Xena crossover. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

02-19-2002, 07:50 AM	#17
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	And the elves being there destroys a major theme of the mythology. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-19-2002, 09:08 AM	#18
Aragorns Dimple Enting Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: On Viggo's Chin Posts: 77	So Arwen will be at Helms Deep, I just hope that she can add some more interest to the fight scenes so it's not all Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn. And Gandalf the White will be there too, on his spanky white mount Shadowfax, looking very Wizardly! And I can't wait to see Eowyn pouting at Aragorn, that would be MUCH more of a temptation than that blasted Ring.....!!!! Will he pass the test, folks???? __________________ "Is it nice, my preciousss? Is it juicy? Is it scrumptiously crunchable?" - Gollum

02-19-2002, 09:16 AM	#19
Pailan Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aisle 12, seat#2 Posts: 449	Well I see a lot of folk are jumping on the Arwen will be fighting at helms deep. Please be careful with rumors as you go. __________________ "Holy Entmoot, Batman!" "Who knows, Robin? This strange mixing of minds may be the greatest single sevice ever performed for humanity! Let's go, but, inconspicuosly, through the window. We'll use our Batropes. Our job is finished." Oh, btw, Frodo lives.

02-19-2002, 03:34 PM	#20
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	If Aragorn decides to go with Eowyn... LOL that would be so hilarious just because it would annoy everyone __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

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