Sam finding Frodo

KGamgee · 01-30-2002, 08:59 PM

I was just wondering....
Since they cut songs from the movie, how is Sam going to find Frodo in "The Tower of Cirith Ungol"? That is one of my favorite parts in the book, I hope they don't change it too much.

Laurelyn · 01-30-2002, 09:33 PM

You've got a good point there- I don't know. Maybe they'll just put that song in . . .

FrodoFriend · 01-30-2002, 09:47 PM

Maybe he'll hear Frodo snoring or sneezing or something. Or maybe they'll change it entirely. We have to wait til Christmas to find out!

Wayfarer · 01-30-2002, 10:50 PM

They'll prolly change it entirely.

And frodo won't be naked.

Rána Eressëa · 01-31-2002, 12:15 AM

Sam also knew where he was due to hearing Frodo scream when the Orc had struck him with the whip. That's probably how he'll find him in the movie, I'm sure.

FrodoFriend · 01-31-2002, 12:19 AM

Some one will have to tie me to my seat to stop me from leaping up and giving that orc a taste of his own whip.

Grrrr.

Mithrandir · 01-31-2002, 11:38 AM

Since its such a great scene, I'm sure that PJ will make it seem that Sam has lost all hope, just like in the book, then the singing will start and Sam will find Frodo, also like in the book.

I can't see him changing this, and if he does.....well......I'll be mad

jerseydevil · 01-31-2002, 12:31 PM

Well I couldn't see Jackson changing the Flight to the Ford scene besides replacing Glorfindel with Arwen - and look at how much he changed that.

Does anyone really think that "If you want him - come and claim him" is better than "You will have neither the Ring nor me"??

eowyn144 · 01-31-2002, 03:48 PM

they`d better still have frodo naked. that`s the best part of the whole book!

ragamuffin92 · 01-31-2002, 04:05 PM

You are 100% correct, NJDEVIL.
It wasn't until just now that I remembered where your signature came from. I don't like to complain about the movie, because I loved it so much...but that whole scene was kinda goofy the way they played it, compared to the book. (Is it too late to get my money back for the first two times I've seen it and for the next couple of times, as well?)

samwise of the shire · 01-31-2002, 06:39 PM

I think that because it's going to be such an intense book we're gonna have Frodo kind of screaming when he gets whipped and then Sam springs up the ladder kills the orc and finds Frodo with(hopefully)something around his waist or buried under some rags or something like that or maybe wrapped in his cloak or SOMETHING.
Sam

FrodoFriend · 01-31-2002, 08:39 PM

Yeah, I can picture the screaming. He seems to be good at that.

KGamgee · 01-31-2002, 09:11 PM

Thanks! I hope they don't change it too much......
we have to wait til TWO!!!!!!!!!!!
Christmases from now!
AAAAA!!!!!!
~Dies waiting~
PS: Anyone know when itll come out on DVD/Video
Lol

Rána Eressëa · 01-31-2002, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by FrodoFriend
Yeah, I can picture the screaming. He seems to be good at that.

LOL, FrodoFriend. Too true...too true. Personally, I think that's how they're going to do it. And my buddy Sam better slay that Orc like it ain't no thang

Renille · 01-31-2002, 11:33 PM

*Sob* Don't cut more songs...please...don't cut them. I hope they'll include Sam's song. But I really hope they DON'T show Frodo naked. Any nakedness is yucky.

kennebecc · 02-01-2002, 12:19 AM

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Actually, according to Bill Wheldan on the 'official' movie website the scene between Sam and Frodo in the tower was filmed. Seems to indicate that Frodo has been stripped of his clothes. If done well, this will be quite an emotional scene.

http://lordoftherings.net/

>>Later, we sit and watch the filming, in the top room of the tower of Cirith Ungol. The scene is trimmed to its essentials. The dialog is not always Tolkien's, but I have to return to the book to be sure, the spirit is so close. I get to hear one of my favorite lines: "You can't go walking in the Black Land in naught but your skin, Mr. Frodo." The essence of Sam. Peter gives the dialog a subtext. Sam is thinking, "I'm going to destroy that thing that's causing you so much pain -- by myself if that's what's needed."
They spend all day on this bit, so critical to the emotional arc of the story. In the end, Sean Astin as Sam delivers the line with weariness, grief, determination, courage, and love. I leave with tears in my eyes. <<

Laurelyn · 02-01-2002, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kennebecc

Actually, according to Bill Wheldan on the 'official' movie website the scene between Sam and Frodo in the tower was filmed. Seems to indicate that Frodo has been stripped of his clothes. If done well, this will be quite an emotional scene.

But if it's not done well, it could be a terrible scene. That's what I'm afraid of for that; And anyways, I hope they have Frodo keep his clothes.

emplynx · 02-01-2002, 10:14 PM

I guess alot of LotR fan girls will be upset when they don't see Elijah's Wood naked.... I mean, Elijah Wood naked.

Starr Polish · 02-01-2002, 10:16 PM

Ewww emplynx!

I personally couldn't care less. I saw a wonderful drawing by someone of this scene though...it was perfect.

FrodoFriend · 02-02-2002, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by emplynx
I guess alot of LotR fan girls will be upset when they don't see Elijah's Wood naked.... I mean, Elijah Wood naked.

LOL!

But really . . . we're not that perverted!

01-30-2002, 08:59 PM	#1
KGamgee Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 103	Sam finding Frodo I was just wondering.... Since they cut songs from the movie, how is Sam going to find Frodo in "The Tower of Cirith Ungol"? That is one of my favorite parts in the book, I hope they don't change it too much.

01-30-2002, 09:33 PM	#2
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	You've got a good point there- I don't know. Maybe they'll just put that song in . . . __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

01-30-2002, 09:47 PM	#3
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Maybe he'll hear Frodo snoring or sneezing or something. Or maybe they'll change it entirely. We have to wait til Christmas to find out! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-30-2002, 10:50 PM	#4
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	They'll prolly change it entirely. And frodo won't be naked. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-31-2002, 12:19 AM	#6
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Some one will have to tie me to my seat to stop me from leaping up and giving that orc a taste of his own whip. Grrrr. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-31-2002, 12:15 AM	#5
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Sam also knew where he was due to hearing Frodo scream when the Orc had struck him with the whip. That's probably how he'll find him in the movie, I'm sure.

01-31-2002, 11:38 AM	#7
Mithrandir Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MA Posts: 39	Since its such a great scene, I'm sure that PJ will make it seem that Sam has lost all hope, just like in the book, then the singing will start and Sam will find Frodo, also like in the book. I can't see him changing this, and if he does.....well......I'll be mad __________________ Frodo Lives!!! spread the word!!

01-31-2002, 12:31 PM	#8
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Well I couldn't see Jackson changing the Flight to the Ford scene besides replacing Glorfindel with Arwen - and look at how much he changed that. Does anyone really think that "If you want him - come and claim him" is better than "You will have neither the Ring nor me"?? __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide Last edited by jerseydevil : 01-31-2002 at 11:38 PM.

01-31-2002, 03:48 PM	#9
eowyn144 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 435	they`d better still have frodo naked. that`s the best part of the whole book!

01-31-2002, 04:05 PM	#10
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	You are 100% correct, NJDEVIL. It wasn't until just now that I remembered where your signature came from. I don't like to complain about the movie, because I loved it so much...but that whole scene was kinda goofy the way they played it, compared to the book. (Is it too late to get my money back for the first two times I've seen it and for the next couple of times, as well?) __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-31-2002, 06:39 PM	#11
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	I think that because it's going to be such an intense book we're gonna have Frodo kind of screaming when he gets whipped and then Sam springs up the ladder kills the orc and finds Frodo with(hopefully)something around his waist or buried under some rags or something like that or maybe wrapped in his cloak or SOMETHING. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

01-31-2002, 08:39 PM	#12
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Yeah, I can picture the screaming. He seems to be good at that. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-31-2002, 09:11 PM	#13
KGamgee Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 103	Thanks! I hope they don't change it too much...... we have to wait til TWO!!!!!!!!!!! Christmases from now! AAAAA!!!!!! ~Dies waiting~ PS: Anyone know when itll come out on DVD/Video Lol

01-31-2002, 11:33 PM	#15
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	Sob Don't cut more songs...please...don't cut them. I hope they'll include Sam's song. But I really hope they DON'T show Frodo naked. Any nakedness is yucky. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

02-01-2002, 12:19 AM	#16
kennebecc Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: US Posts: 35	SPOILERS Cirith Ungol* SPOILERS ********************** ****************** ******************** Actually, according to Bill Wheldan on the 'official' movie website the scene between Sam and Frodo in the tower was filmed. Seems to indicate that Frodo has been stripped of his clothes. If done well, this will be quite an emotional scene. http://lordoftherings.net/ >>Later, we sit and watch the filming, in the top room of the tower of Cirith Ungol. The scene is trimmed to its essentials. The dialog is not always Tolkien's, but I have to return to the book to be sure, the spirit is so close. I get to hear one of my favorite lines: "You can't go walking in the Black Land in naught but your skin, Mr. Frodo." The essence of Sam. Peter gives the dialog a subtext. Sam is thinking, "I'm going to destroy that thing that's causing you so much pain -- by myself if that's what's needed." They spend all day on this bit, so critical to the emotional arc of the story. In the end, Sean Astin as Sam delivers the line with weariness, grief, determination, courage, and love. I leave with tears in my eyes. <<

02-01-2002, 10:14 PM	#18
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I guess alot of LotR fan girls will be upset when they don't see Elijah's Wood naked.... I mean, Elijah Wood naked.

02-01-2002, 10:16 PM	#19
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Ewww emplynx! I personally couldn't care less. I saw a wonderful drawing by someone of this scene though...it was perfect. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

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