Dwarves getting left out.

Legolas_BowKing · 01-27-2002, 07:57 PM

I think that the Dwarves should of had a higher power in there race. Maybe not as high as a Istari but just someone with a bit of magical power.

Ñólendil · 01-27-2002, 09:27 PM

They did have magical power. They had a great deal of magic having to do with their makings and songs. If you look you'll find examples of magic-using in all the Children of Ilúvatar.

FrodoFriend · 01-27-2002, 09:28 PM

They had their own type of power: their talent with making things, steadfastness, incorruptibility, etc. I don't think they needed "magic" powers. If they did they'd just be like short Noldor. They're unique in that they have a different sort of power, kind of an earth and stone power, if you take my meaning.

markedel · 01-28-2002, 11:31 PM

"the naugrim of elder days in whose hearts still burns the ancient fire of Aule the Smith...and in whose hans still live the skill in work of ston that none have surpassed."

The_Real_Legolas · 01-29-2002, 01:58 PM

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In the Hobbit, there are no elves as one of the main charecters. And the dwarves are the main charecters, so I'd say there is an equal amount of love shared here people!!

P.S. LEGOLAS ROX!!

Radagast · 01-29-2002, 03:36 PM

Dwarves have next to no focus in any of Tolkien's work except the Hobbit!

barrelrider110 · 01-29-2002, 03:59 PM

I find striking resemblances of the Dwarves in the Hobbit to the Dwarves in Snow White, at least as Walt Disney pictured them.
(1) They were miners by occupation
(2) They were materialistic (Disney Dwarfs mined diamonds)
(3) They all had beards (except for Dopey, and nobody took him seriously).
(4) Hobbit and SW&T7D both appeared in the 30s.

Anyone care to comment on this?

markedel · 01-29-2002, 04:38 PM

Thw dwarves in disney don't have the embers of Aule the smith burning inside them

emplynx · 01-29-2002, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by barrelrider110
Anyone care to comment on this?

Yes. Shut up.

Ñólendil · 01-29-2002, 06:30 PM

I think emplynx is kidding ... so I won't say anything

The last five posts in this thread use to be a seperate topic in another Tolkien forum, but I moved them here as they seem to be a response to Legolas_Bowking's comments.

The_Real_Legolas · 01-30-2002, 06:58 PM

I don't get the Disney thinger Mr. Barrelrider110!!

Can you explain it to me more!!??!!

Kwijibo · 02-03-2002, 07:30 AM

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think Disney's Dwarfs were attacked by Balrogs!

FrodoFriend · 02-03-2002, 06:00 PM

Yeah, and Tolkien's Dwarves had a song a bit less repetitive than "Heigh-ho, Heigh-ho . . ."

Kwijibo · 02-04-2002, 12:44 PM

I'll Say!

And can u imagine Thorin with a name like Dopey?

And do Dwarves live in sevens, sleep in sevens and eat in sevens?

Do u think that Tolkien's Dwarves keep hoards of dead princessces?

I don't.

01-27-2002, 07:57 PM	#1
Legolas_BowKing Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 115	Dwarves getting left out. I think that the Dwarves should of had a higher power in there race. Maybe not as high as a Istari but just someone with a bit of magical power.

01-27-2002, 09:27 PM	#2
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	They did have magical power. They had a great deal of magic having to do with their makings and songs. If you look you'll find examples of magic-using in all the Children of Ilúvatar. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

01-27-2002, 09:28 PM	#3
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	They had their own type of power: their talent with making things, steadfastness, incorruptibility, etc. I don't think they needed "magic" powers. If they did they'd just be like short Noldor. They're unique in that they have a different sort of power, kind of an earth and stone power, if you take my meaning. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-28-2002, 11:31 PM	#4
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	"the naugrim of elder days in whose hearts still burns the ancient fire of Aule the Smith...and in whose hans still live the skill in work of ston that none have surpassed." __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

01-29-2002, 01:58 PM	#5
The_Real_Legolas Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 100	Dwarvezez & Elvezez [FONT=arial][COLOR=limegreen] In the Hobbit, there are no elves as one of the main charecters. And the dwarves are the main charecters, so I'd say there is an equal amount of love shared here people!! P.S. LEGOLAS ROX!! __________________ One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them One ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them ****************************** LEGOLAS ROCKS & so do I! GO ARCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-29-2002, 03:36 PM	#6
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	Dwarves have next to no focus in any of Tolkien's work except the Hobbit! __________________ Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine, And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest (The end for others sought) Watch sloth and heathen folly Bring all your hope to nought. Last edited by Radagast : 08-05-2004 at 11:34 AM.

01-29-2002, 03:59 PM	#7
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	I find striking resemblances of the Dwarves in the Hobbit to the Dwarves in Snow White, at least as Walt Disney pictured them. (1) They were miners by occupation (2) They were materialistic (Disney Dwarfs mined diamonds) (3) They all had beards (except for Dopey, and nobody took him seriously). (4) Hobbit and SW&T7D both appeared in the 30s. Anyone care to comment on this?

01-29-2002, 04:38 PM	#8
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Thw dwarves in disney don't have the embers of Aule the smith burning inside them __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

01-29-2002, 06:30 PM	#10
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I think emplynx is kidding ... so I won't say anything The last five posts in this thread use to be a seperate topic in another Tolkien forum, but I moved them here as they seem to be a response to Legolas_Bowking's comments. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

01-30-2002, 06:58 PM	#11
The_Real_Legolas Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 100	I don't get the Disney thinger Mr. Barrelrider110!! Can you explain it to me more!!??!! __________________ One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them One ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them ****************************** LEGOLAS ROCKS & so do I! GO ARCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-03-2002, 07:30 AM	#12
Kwijibo Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlorien (actually Wales, but let's not talk about that) Posts: 117	Correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think Disney's Dwarfs were attacked by Balrogs! __________________ 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you can decide is what to do with the time that is given to you,' - Gandalf the Grey 'I left my body to science, but I'm afraid they've turned it down' - In memory of Graham Chapman 'Rubin sits like Buddah in a 10 foot cell, An innocent man in a living hell,' - From 'Hurricane' by Bob Dylan, the only innocent Hurricane protest song, written stressing the innocence of Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter, a black, middle-weight boxer imprisoned for 19 for a triple murder which he did not commit.

02-03-2002, 06:00 PM	#13
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Yeah, and Tolkien's Dwarves had a song a bit less repetitive than "Heigh-ho, Heigh-ho . . ." __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-04-2002, 12:44 PM	#14
Kwijibo Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlorien (actually Wales, but let's not talk about that) Posts: 117	I'll Say! And can u imagine Thorin with a name like Dopey? And do Dwarves live in sevens, sleep in sevens and eat in sevens? Do u think that Tolkien's Dwarves keep hoards of dead princessces? I don't. __________________ 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you can decide is what to do with the time that is given to you,' - Gandalf the Grey 'I left my body to science, but I'm afraid they've turned it down' - In memory of Graham Chapman 'Rubin sits like Buddah in a 10 foot cell, An innocent man in a living hell,' - From 'Hurricane' by Bob Dylan, the only innocent Hurricane protest song, written stressing the innocence of Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter, a black, middle-weight boxer imprisoned for 19 for a triple murder which he did not commit.

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