The Lord of Carrion

Agburanar · 01-25-2002, 09:50 AM

When Eowyn attacks the Witch King she shouts out "Begone Dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion!".

Does this refer to the Witch King or his steed? I thought it was the flying beast, but they're never caleld that anywhere else!

markedel · 01-25-2002, 10:05 AM

Dwimmerlaik could be a translation of a Rohirric curse. Got to burnish my old english.

Lightice · 01-25-2002, 01:51 PM

I'd say, that it means simply "monster" or "evil creature".
That's at least how it's translated in finnish...
It's propably olde english.

olsonm · 01-25-2002, 06:58 PM

Carrion means: dead and putrefying flesh. I always thought Eowyn was insulting Ol'Witchy.

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-25-2002, 08:02 PM

My Evil Ears are burning....

Comic Book Guy · 01-25-2002, 08:26 PM

Dwimmerlaik is a Title for the Witch King, derived from the Old English words Socerer and Corpse, The Rohirric tongue is based on Old English.

olsonm · 01-26-2002, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by olsonm
Carrion means: dead and putrefying flesh. I always thought Eowyn was insulting Ol'Witchy.

Heh! olsonm, you vacant dimwit! Agburanar wasn't asking about carrion! Jeez, you're dummer than Sam in the book!

olsonm · 01-26-2002, 12:15 AM

Look, olsonm I already schooled you on the whole 'Sam' issue. He wasn't dum! Anyway, I knew Agburanar wasn't asking about carrion. I just liked the idea of Eowyn calling Ol' Dwimmy "Dead-Witch, lord of the dead-stinkies

***Earniel*** · 01-27-2002, 01:00 PM

mmmm, seems like some one has a little multiple personality problem.

luinilwen · 01-28-2002, 12:10 AM

dwimmerlaik is obviously the nazgul/witch king and not his steed. in the index of LOTR under dwimmerlaik it has in brackets "in Rohan, work of necromancy, spectre"

work of necromancy = creation of sauron
spectre = ghost/wraith/phantom

as my english teacher used to tell me, always go back to the source.

01-25-2002, 09:50 AM	#1
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	The Lord of Carrion When Eowyn attacks the Witch King she shouts out "Begone Dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion!". Does this refer to the Witch King or his steed? I thought it was the flying beast, but they're never caleld that anywhere else!

01-25-2002, 08:02 PM	#5
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	My Evil Ears are burning.... __________________ Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye.

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01-25-2002, 10:05 AM	#2
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Dwimmerlaik could be a translation of a Rohirric curse. Got to burnish my old english.

01-25-2002, 01:51 PM	#3
Lightice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 192	I'd say, that it means simply "monster" or "evil creature". That's at least how it's translated in finnish... It's propably olde english.

01-25-2002, 06:58 PM	#4
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	Carrion means: dead and putrefying flesh. I always thought Eowyn was insulting Ol'Witchy.

01-25-2002, 08:26 PM	#6
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Dwimmerlaik is a Title for the Witch King, derived from the Old English words Socerer and Corpse, The Rohirric tongue is based on Old English.

01-26-2002, 12:15 AM	#8
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	Look, olsonm I already schooled you on the whole 'Sam' issue. He wasn't dum! Anyway, I knew Agburanar wasn't asking about carrion. I just liked the idea of Eowyn calling Ol' Dwimmy "Dead-Witch, lord of the dead-stinkies

01-27-2002, 01:00 PM	#9
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	mmmm, seems like some one has a little multiple personality problem.

01-28-2002, 12:10 AM	#10
luinilwen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney AUSTRALIA Posts: 368	dwimmerlaik is obviously the nazgul/witch king and not his steed. in the index of LOTR under dwimmerlaik it has in brackets "in Rohan, work of necromancy, spectre" work of necromancy = creation of sauron spectre = ghost/wraith/phantom as my english teacher used to tell me, always go back to the source.