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12-27-2001, 09:48 PM
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Elven Warrior
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No help for Gandalf?
Just wondering.....
When Gandalf was hanging from the cliff in the mines of Moria after the Balrog fell, WHY DIDN'T ANYONE HELP HIM??????? Frodo tried, but Boromir held him back. What's up with that? Any answers? |
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12-27-2001, 09:59 PM
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The man
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They would both have fallen, I realized on the second viewing.
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12-28-2001, 01:23 AM
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Elf Lord
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I guess that's the idea. Or maybe Boromir was worried about the stability of the Bridge. In the romance Aragorn and Boromir both try to save him from falling, but don't reach the edge in time. The others stand by the eastern door, unable to abandon their leader.
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12-28-2001, 08:11 AM
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Providence?
In Moria we see Gandalf telling Frodo that Bilbo was meant to find the ring and that Frodo was meant to have the ring. Gandalf, IMHO, was talking about Divine Providence. Things were not happening by chance. As Gandalf said, "That is a very comforting thought".
So it was Providence as well that kept Gandalf from receiving aid. |
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12-28-2001, 03:58 PM
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Shock, perhaps? None expected the whip to curl about Gandalf. It happened quickly, unexpectedly, and maybe Mr Jackson meant to show that it happened so fast that they could not react properly.
Also, the instability of the bridge does have to be considered as a factor. After the collapse of the bridge-stairs, I can see the reluctance of Aragorn and Boromir to allow others to set foot on that bridge, no matter what. Plus, Gandalf himself told them, "Fly, you fools!".
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12-28-2001, 06:23 PM
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Elven Warrior
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Thanks everybody. I was wondering abotu that....
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