Redwall Series

samwise of the shire · 12-10-2001, 05:57 PM

For any of you Redwallers let's talk about one of the greatest series of all time. Well next to LOTR that is.
Sam

Matto Baggins · 12-18-2001, 12:03 AM

redwall is one of the most extensive worlds next to lotr.

webwizard333 · 12-20-2001, 02:10 PM

It's been awhile since I've read them, but I still remeber how good they are. Very imaginative and I loved the dialects (though the dialects did cause much re-reading). Which one did you enjoy the most? For me it's Redwall , the first one. I liked how there were two distinct villains, the adder and the whip-tail rat, what's-his-name. I liked The Outcast too with all the wuestions about inheritance of evil, I still haven't figured out if the son of Swartt meant to <spoiler>

give up his life

<end spoiler>

All inall, very good and highly imaginative, the sort of book I was caught reading in class and got in trouble for .

GoldenMallorn · 12-21-2001, 07:12 PM

I've read most of them, save for the newest one and I hav eonly to wait a little while for it. My favorite one was the Legend of Luke and Marlfox, although I enjoyed reading The Outcast as well. Yeah Veil meant to give up his life for the mousey gel. I weep every time I read it. I feel sorry for Skarlath I like that bird and the two otters. Too funny for words.

Alethes · 12-30-2001, 12:07 AM

My favorites are probably Mossflower and Mattimeo.

I really like the dialogue, especially the moles' speech.

I used to know the detailed plot of the first 10 (which I have), so I stopped reading them for a while. Now I have forgotten a lot of the stories, so I probably should read them again at some point.

galadriel88 · 01-02-2002, 02:20 PM

I might start reading them after I finish LOTR (I'm reading it 4 the first time).

Bradistic · 02-19-2002, 07:35 PM

Can any of you tell me how many there are and in what order they go in?
Thanks in advance.

Alethes · 02-20-2002, 11:49 PM

There are 14, plus a couple of shorter stories that don't fit in the chronological order.

Martin the Warrior (6)
Mossflower (2)
The Legend of Luke (12)
Outcast of Redwall (8)
Mariel of Redwall (4)
The Bellmaker (7)
Salamandastron (5)
Redwall (1)
Mattimeo (3)
Pearls of Lutra (9)
The Long Patrol (10)
Marlfox (11)
Taggerung (14)

Those are listed in the chronological order in terms of plot, not the chronological order in which they were written. The number after each one indicates the order in which they were written. I'm missing one -- Lord Brocktree (13)-- because I haven't read it yet, but it's towards the beginning somewhere. I didn't put the short stories in because they don't really fit in anywhere.

Starr Polish · 02-21-2002, 12:01 AM

You can read them in any order though, but I do believe that Mossflower is actually number one, since it tells of the original Martin and the founding of Redwall Abbey, but it was written after the original Redwall.

RosieCotton · 03-02-2002, 01:13 PM

Oh, I love Redwall! I love how the moles talk. My favs are Mattimeo, Redwall, and Pearls of Lutra. These books were the ones that got me really into the fantasy genre.
~Rosie~

Khadrane · 03-03-2002, 12:01 AM

I love the way the moles talk too! I made my dad read The Long Patrol once. I don't think he's ever forgiven me...

Alethes · 03-03-2002, 08:25 PM

I made a deal with my dad that if he would read Mossflower, I would read In His Steps. I read my book on a long trip shortly after we made that deal, but it took Dad a year to read Mossflower. I had to keep reminding him to read it.

RosieCotton · 03-26-2002, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Khadrane
I love the way the moles talk too! I made my dad read The Long Patrol once. I don't think he's ever forgiven me...

Haha. I tried to make my Mom read the whole series once, but she found a way out of it.

~Rosie~

Khadrane · 03-26-2002, 12:42 PM

I was getting my dad back for all the Louis L'amour books he made me read.

Radagast · 03-27-2002, 10:53 AM

I have only ever read one and a half redwall books. I picked up The Pearls of Lutra and that was exceptional, but then I tried some of the others and found them nauseatingly base. I probably haven't given them a fair chance but they just aren't to my taste.

RosieCotton · 03-27-2002, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radagast
I have only ever read one and a half redwall books. I picked up The Pearls of Lutra and that was exceptional, but then I tried some of the others and found them nauseatingly base. I probably haven't given them a fair chance but they just aren't to my taste.

Pearls of Lutra was my favorite
Rosie

Menelvagor · 03-28-2002, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radagast
I have only ever read one and a half redwall books. I picked up The Pearls of Lutra and that was exceptional, but then I tried some of the others and found them nauseatingly base. I probably haven't given them a fair chance but they just aren't to my taste.

If the one you started reading was Redwall the begining is very basic. I have read that book about 15 times, but I always skip the first few chapters, there just laughable and fluffy when compared to the rest. Kind of like The Hobbit, written without the full realization of the world; nessisary (I can never spell that word) to read, but pure fluff. Don't judge the rest of that book by it, it actually has one of the most complex plots.

Alethes - Lord Brocktree goes at the very begining.

Starr Polish - (being nitpicky, sorry

) Lord Brocktree and Martin the Warrior take place before Martin came to Mossflower, so they go before Mossflower

Khadrane · 03-29-2002, 01:57 PM

Just wondering, which comes first- Lord Brocktree or Martin the Warrior? That question has been bugging me for awhile.

Menelvagor · 03-30-2002, 06:11 PM

I put Lord Brocktree first, but thinking about it now, those too are pretty much interchangeable. For me it just flows better, going directly from Martin's early life to his arrival in Mossflower.

elf_princess · 04-03-2002, 11:36 PM

I love redwall!!! it's one of my favorite series. My favorite book would have to be Mossflower or else the Pearls of Lutra. I myself like the hares... they're hilarious! My favorite character would have to be Basil Stag Hare... or else baby Rollo... or Arwen the squirrel... or....

12-10-2001, 05:57 PM	#1
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	Redwall Series For any of you Redwallers let's talk about one of the greatest series of all time. Well next to LOTR that is. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

12-18-2001, 12:03 AM	#2
Matto Baggins Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 23	redwall redwall is one of the most extensive worlds next to lotr. __________________ The Road May Be Long And Hard, But I Will Follow The Course To It's End. HOBBITS LIVE FREE!

12-20-2001, 02:10 PM	#3
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	It's been awhile since I've read them, but I still remeber how good they are. Very imaginative and I loved the dialects (though the dialects did cause much re-reading). Which one did you enjoy the most? For me it's Redwall , the first one. I liked how there were two distinct villains, the adder and the whip-tail rat, what's-his-name. I liked The Outcast too with all the wuestions about inheritance of evil, I still haven't figured out if the son of Swartt meant to <spoiler> give up his life <end spoiler> All inall, very good and highly imaginative, the sort of book I was caught reading in class and got in trouble for . __________________ Boo!

12-21-2001, 07:12 PM	#4
GoldenMallorn Sapling Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 8	I've read most of them, save for the newest one and I hav eonly to wait a little while for it. My favorite one was the Legend of Luke and Marlfox, although I enjoyed reading The Outcast as well. Yeah Veil meant to give up his life for the mousey gel. I weep every time I read it. I feel sorry for Skarlath I like that bird and the two otters. Too funny for words. __________________ Let us not be hasty

12-30-2001, 12:07 AM	#5
Alethes Enting Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: urban Oklahoma Posts: 73	My favorites are probably Mossflower and Mattimeo. I really like the dialogue, especially the moles' speech. I used to know the detailed plot of the first 10 (which I have), so I stopped reading them for a while. Now I have forgotten a lot of the stories, so I probably should read them again at some point. __________________ He who loves a pure heart and whose speech is gracious will have the king for his friend. -Proverbs 22:11

01-02-2002, 02:20 PM	#6
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	Are they really good? I might start reading them after I finish LOTR (I'm reading it 4 the first time). __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

02-19-2002, 07:35 PM	#7
Bradistic Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 35	Can any of you tell me how many there are and in what order they go in? Thanks in advance.

02-20-2002, 11:49 PM	#8
Alethes Enting Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: urban Oklahoma Posts: 73	There are 14, plus a couple of shorter stories that don't fit in the chronological order. Martin the Warrior (6) Mossflower (2) The Legend of Luke (12) Outcast of Redwall (8) Mariel of Redwall (4) The Bellmaker (7) Salamandastron (5) Redwall (1) Mattimeo (3) Pearls of Lutra (9) The Long Patrol (10) Marlfox (11) Taggerung (14) Those are listed in the chronological order in terms of plot, not the chronological order in which they were written. The number after each one indicates the order in which they were written. I'm missing one -- Lord Brocktree (13)-- because I haven't read it yet, but it's towards the beginning somewhere. I didn't put the short stories in because they don't really fit in anywhere. __________________ He who loves a pure heart and whose speech is gracious will have the king for his friend. -Proverbs 22:11

02-21-2002, 12:01 AM	#9
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	You can read them in any order though, but I do believe that Mossflower is actually number one, since it tells of the original Martin and the founding of Redwall Abbey, but it was written after the original Redwall. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-02-2002, 01:13 PM	#10
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	Oh, I love Redwall! I love how the moles talk. My favs are Mattimeo, Redwall, and Pearls of Lutra. These books were the ones that got me really into the fantasy genre. ~Rosie~ __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

03-03-2002, 12:01 AM	#11
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	I love the way the moles talk too! I made my dad read The Long Patrol once. I don't think he's ever forgiven me... __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-03-2002, 08:25 PM	#12
Alethes Enting Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: urban Oklahoma Posts: 73	I made a deal with my dad that if he would read Mossflower, I would read In His Steps. I read my book on a long trip shortly after we made that deal, but it took Dad a year to read Mossflower. I had to keep reminding him to read it. __________________ He who loves a pure heart and whose speech is gracious will have the king for his friend. -Proverbs 22:11

03-26-2002, 12:42 PM	#14
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	I was getting my dad back for all the Louis L'amour books he made me read. __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-27-2002, 10:53 AM	#15
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	I have only ever read one and a half redwall books. I picked up The Pearls of Lutra and that was exceptional, but then I tried some of the others and found them nauseatingly base. I probably haven't given them a fair chance but they just aren't to my taste. __________________ Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine, And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest (The end for others sought) Watch sloth and heathen folly Bring all your hope to nought.

03-29-2002, 01:57 PM	#18
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	Just wondering, which comes first- Lord Brocktree or Martin the Warrior? That question has been bugging me for awhile. __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-30-2002, 06:11 PM	#19
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	I put Lord Brocktree first, but thinking about it now, those too are pretty much interchangeable. For me it just flows better, going directly from Martin's early life to his arrival in Mossflower.

04-03-2002, 11:36 PM	#20
elf_princess Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: la dee da Posts: 275	I love redwall!!! it's one of my favorite series. My favorite book would have to be Mossflower or else the Pearls of Lutra. I myself like the hares... they're hilarious! My favorite character would have to be Basil Stag Hare... or else baby Rollo... or Arwen the squirrel... or....

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