Hobbits

Barandur of Nargothrond · 05-01-2010, 12:33 AM

Ok I know that Elves go the Halls of Mandos and after a time are allowed to return to Aman in physical form, and that men stay for a time in the halls of Mandos then move beyond Arda, the Dwarves are a little ambiguous they either return to the earth Aule made them from or they dwell in Halls of Mandos removed from the other races.

But my question is about Hobbits what happens to them when they die what happens to them.

and orcs they were originally elves corrupted by Morgoth and the Balrogs they were Maiar. Does the corruption of Morgoth prevent them from moving on what happens to them I wonder.

Belwen_of_nargothrond · 05-01-2010, 02:49 PM

Hobbits go to hobbit Heaven and orcs go nowhere, lol. Just being silly.

***Valandil*** · 05-01-2010, 04:53 PM

I think Hobbits go where Men go.

Are you two related? Or do you see each other around in Nargothrond?

***Varnafindë*** · 05-01-2010, 06:29 PM

I also think that Hobbits are so closely related to Men that they share the same fate and go to the same place. They talk about 'the Big Folk and the Little Folk', don't they, in Bree and sometimes in other places? They seem to be two varieties of the same, not really very different.

I'm not sure that Men (and Hobbits) stay for a time in the halls of Mandos before they move beyond Arda, though - I thought that they didn't necessarily go via Mandos at all.
Or perhaps some of them do? What do the books say about this?

***Earniel*** · 05-02-2010, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varnafindë

I'm not sure that Men (and Hobbits) stay for a time in the halls of Mandos before they move beyond Arda, though - I thought that they didn't necessarily go via Mandos at all. Or perhaps some of them do? What do the books say about this?

Beren stuck around long enough for Lúthien to come along too. So it does seem they come to the Halls of Mandos before moving on.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-02-2010, 08:22 AM

OK. Useful to know.

Mornorngûr · 10-14-2010, 05:09 PM

The fate of 'Hobbits' is the same as the fate of 'Men'. The name 'Halfling' refers to them being half the size of other men, not of a different race. The people of Haleth were very different in their own way to normal men, yet they were men still.

I would assume Balrogs would have to return to Valinor and recieve the judgement of Manwé, and Orcs maybe would get judged by Námo in the Mandos.

05-01-2010, 12:33 AM	#1
Barandur of Nargothrond Sapling Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4	Hobbits Ok I know that Elves go the Halls of Mandos and after a time are allowed to return to Aman in physical form, and that men stay for a time in the halls of Mandos then move beyond Arda, the Dwarves are a little ambiguous they either return to the earth Aule made them from or they dwell in Halls of Mandos removed from the other races. But my question is about Hobbits what happens to them when they die what happens to them. and orcs they were originally elves corrupted by Morgoth and the Balrogs they were Maiar. Does the corruption of Morgoth prevent them from moving on what happens to them I wonder.

05-01-2010, 02:49 PM	#2
Belwen_of_nargothrond Enting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nargothrond Posts: 71	Hobbits go to hobbit Heaven and orcs go nowhere, lol. Just being silly. __________________ Lady Belwen of Nargothrond

05-01-2010, 04:53 PM	#3
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	I think Hobbits go where Men go. Are you two related? Or do you see each other around in Nargothrond? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

05-01-2010, 06:29 PM	#4
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	I also think that Hobbits are so closely related to Men that they share the same fate and go to the same place. They talk about 'the Big Folk and the Little Folk', don't they, in Bree and sometimes in other places? They seem to be two varieties of the same, not really very different. I'm not sure that Men (and Hobbits) stay for a time in the halls of Mandos before they move beyond Arda, though - I thought that they didn't necessarily go via Mandos at all. Or perhaps some of them do? What do the books say about this? __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-02-2010, 08:22 AM	#6
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	OK. Useful to know. __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

10-14-2010, 05:09 PM	#7
Mornorngûr Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 26	The fate of 'Hobbits' is the same as the fate of 'Men'. The name 'Halfling' refers to them being half the size of other men, not of a different race. The people of Haleth were very different in their own way to normal men, yet they were men still. I would assume Balrogs would have to return to Valinor and recieve the judgement of Manwé, and Orcs maybe would get judged by Námo in the Mandos. __________________ ----------- Then Sauron spake and said thou trall, the price thou askest is but small.

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