Scientific research on body control/mind over body

afro-elf · 07-08-2006, 10:42 AM

If you could assist me I would be very grateful.

I am coming up rather empty on my internet search looking for REAL SCIENTIFIC research on body control/ mind over body.

I DO NOT what anything that is biased towards it. So nothing from any yoga, new age, pop psychology, alternative health, etc...sites.

I am not looking for anything psychic, spiritual, mystical, etc...

I am not talking about telepathy, psychokinesis, past lives, etc...

I am notinterested in biofeedback.

I am looking for documented research in things like pain control, muscle control, bloodflow, breath control, heart rate etc...

I also would like NOT to have this thread sidetracked into a discussion of new age, psychic, mystic powers etc... PLEASE

Thanx,
AE

jammi567 · 07-08-2006, 11:23 AM

so do you want us to give you websites and/or book refrences for this kind of thing?

afro-elf · 07-08-2006, 01:55 PM

That would be GREATLY appreciated if you could.

AE

Curubethion · 07-08-2006, 06:20 PM

Hmm...so you're talking about extreme mental suggestion, etc.? Like convincing yourself you're not hungry, you're not tired, you're not cold, etc.?

Spock · 07-08-2006, 06:59 PM

AE, this seems another spamalator thread when Google works faster.

afro-elf · 07-09-2006, 01:09 AM

Hey Spock,

I tried a google search but what I came up with was either a site that was too eager to accept or a skeptical group that was debunking frauds of psychic or mystical powers.

I could not find quite what I was looking for so I thought maybe someone here might be able to direct me were I failed.

However, if you feel it is not ok for me to post the question, no qualms.

Curubethion, yes that would be a section of what I am interested in.

***Alcuin*** · 07-09-2006, 03:52 AM

You need to check out the Mind/Body Medical Institute in Boston. It’s a real medical practice. Treatment there is covered by most American insurance plans. It is associated with the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. The founder, Dr. Herbert Benson, MD, is an Associate Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School.

This is the real stuff. Google them.

-|-

Edit:
Spock, this is a real medical discipline. Don’t kill the thread.

Spock · 07-09-2006, 10:44 AM

AE **jes funnin** means just that................................glad to have you back.

cee2lee2 · 07-09-2006, 02:33 PM

AE, this may be outside the parameters of what you're looking for, but Duke University Medical Center was part of a study about the effects of prayer on heart patients. The results of the study were published in the July 16, 2005 issue of The Lancet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3193902.stm

http://www.dukemednews.org/news/article.php?id=9136

Spock · 07-09-2006, 04:17 PM

Yep, but the LaCross players don't have a prayer.

afro-elf · 07-09-2006, 04:53 PM

Thanks for the replies Alcuin and cee2lee2.

No problem Spock.

Spock · 07-09-2006, 06:36 PM

Hawking Seeks Answers on Humanity's Future
By ANICK JESDANUN (AP Internet Writer)
From Associated Press
July 07, 2006 5:28 PM EDT
NEW YORK - Some questions even stump Stephen Hawking.

The famed British astrophysicist and best-selling author has turned to Yahoo Answers, a new feature in which anyone can pose a question for fellow Internet users to try to answer. By Friday afternoon, nearly 17,000 Yahoo Inc. users had responded.

Hawking's question: "In a world that is in chaos politically, socially and environmentally, how can the human race sustain another 100 years?"

Some of the answers were short - "get rid of nuclear weapons" - and others vague - "Somehow we will." Many were doubtful: "I don't think it is possible unless we expand into space," one user wrote.

A number of people suggested thinking differently, ending bickering or fostering cooperation.

Officials at the University of Cambridge, where Hawking is a mathematics professor, confirmed that Hawking wrote the message but said he would have no further comment.

Hawking's groundbreaking research on black holes and the origins of the universe has made him one of the best-known theoretical physicists of his generation. Author of the global best seller "A Brief History of Time," Hawking is known for proposing that space and time have no beginning and no end.

Lately, he's been pondering about the fate of humans.

In a June 13 speech in Hong Kong, Hawking said the survival of the human race depends on its ability to find new homes elsewhere in the universe because there's an increasing risk that a disaster will destroy Earth.

He said that if humans can avoid killing themselves in the next 100 years, they should have space settlements that can continue without support from Earth.

Hawking is one of 10 celebrity questioners Yahoo solicited as part of its "Ask The Planet" campaign.

The Sunnyvale, Calif., Internet company spent weeks trying to track Hawking down but got his participation within a day of reaching the correct assistant, said Patrick Crane, vice president of marketing for Yahoo Search.

The question was submitted a few days before the Hong Kong speech and posted this past Wednesday.

Over the next week, Yahoo employees are expected to work with Hawking to sift through the answers and select one or several to highlight as best responses.

Yahoo Answers, like an offering from Google Inc. and one planned by Microsoft Corp., is among the services aimed at tapping the collective intelligence. It's based on the premise that humans as a group can do a better job at finding information than machines or any single person can.

Anyone can ask or answer a question, regardless of expertise, although Yahoo will eventually implement a rating system meant to elevate users with better reputations, based on their past questions and answers.

Questions typically get 6 to 10 answers.

Past celebrity participants include Donald Trump, Isaiah Washington, Al Gore and "Click & Clack," the hosts of NPR's "Car Talk." U2 lead singer Bono closed the celebrity series Friday by asking, "What can we do to make poverty history?"

---

On the Net:

Hawking's question:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid(equalsign)20060704195516AAnrdOD

Bono's question:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid(equalsign)20060706201547AAy10c8&pa

Hawking's site: http://www.hawking.org.uk

afro-elf · 07-09-2006, 09:09 PM

Spock thanks for the info. It seems like a great idea. Maybe we can post a how do we solve Tolkien's unanswered questions thread there.

Cheers,

AE

cee2lee2 · 07-09-2006, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spock

Yep, but the LaCross players don't have a prayer.

Neither did the heart patients

afro-elf · 07-10-2006, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cee2lee2

Neither did the heart patients

Ouch, that was good.

07-08-2006, 10:42 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Scientific research on body control/mind over body If you could assist me I would be very grateful. I am coming up rather empty on my internet search looking for REAL SCIENTIFIC research on body control/ mind over body. I DO NOT what anything that is biased towards it. So nothing from any yoga, new age, pop psychology, alternative health, etc...sites. I am not looking for anything psychic, spiritual, mystical, etc... I am not talking about telepathy, psychokinesis, past lives, etc... I am notinterested in biofeedback. I am looking for documented research in things like pain control, muscle control, bloodflow, breath control, heart rate etc... I also would like NOT to have this thread sidetracked into a discussion of new age, psychic, mystic powers etc... PLEASE Thanx, AE __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

07-08-2006, 11:23 AM	#2
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07-08-2006, 01:55 PM	#3
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	That would be GREATLY appreciated if you could. AE __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

07-08-2006, 06:20 PM	#4
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Hmm...so you're talking about extreme mental suggestion, etc.? Like convincing yourself you're not hungry, you're not tired, you're not cold, etc.? __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

07-08-2006, 06:59 PM	#5
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	AE, this seems another spamalator thread when Google works faster. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-09-2006, 01:09 AM	#6
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Hey Spock, I tried a google search but what I came up with was either a site that was too eager to accept or a skeptical group that was debunking frauds of psychic or mystical powers. I could not find quite what I was looking for so I thought maybe someone here might be able to direct me were I failed. However, if you feel it is not ok for me to post the question, no qualms. Curubethion, yes that would be a section of what I am interested in. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

07-09-2006, 03:52 AM	#7
*Alcuin* Salt Miner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: gone to Far Harad Posts: 987	You need to check out the Mind/Body Medical Institute in Boston. It’s a real medical practice. Treatment there is covered by most American insurance plans. It is associated with the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. The founder, Dr. Herbert Benson, MD, is an Associate Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School. This is the real stuff. Google them. -\|- Edit: Spock, this is a real medical discipline. Don’t kill the thread. Last edited by Alcuin : 07-09-2006 at 03:59 AM.

07-09-2006, 10:44 AM	#8
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	AE jes funnin means just that................................glad to have you back. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-09-2006, 02:33 PM	#9
cee2lee2 Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 2nd star to the left..... Posts: 566	AE, this may be outside the parameters of what you're looking for, but Duke University Medical Center was part of a study about the effects of prayer on heart patients. The results of the study were published in the July 16, 2005 issue of The Lancet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3193902.stm http://www.dukemednews.org/news/article.php?id=9136

07-09-2006, 04:17 PM	#10
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Yep, but the LaCross players don't have a prayer. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-09-2006, 04:53 PM	#11
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Thanks for the replies Alcuin and cee2lee2. No problem Spock. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

07-09-2006, 06:36 PM	#12
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	AE you are in good company-seeking answers via www Hawking Seeks Answers on Humanity's Future By ANICK JESDANUN (AP Internet Writer) From Associated Press July 07, 2006 5:28 PM EDT NEW YORK - Some questions even stump Stephen Hawking. The famed British astrophysicist and best-selling author has turned to Yahoo Answers, a new feature in which anyone can pose a question for fellow Internet users to try to answer. By Friday afternoon, nearly 17,000 Yahoo Inc. users had responded. Hawking's question: "In a world that is in chaos politically, socially and environmentally, how can the human race sustain another 100 years?" Some of the answers were short - "get rid of nuclear weapons" - and others vague - "Somehow we will." Many were doubtful: "I don't think it is possible unless we expand into space," one user wrote. A number of people suggested thinking differently, ending bickering or fostering cooperation. Officials at the University of Cambridge, where Hawking is a mathematics professor, confirmed that Hawking wrote the message but said he would have no further comment. Hawking's groundbreaking research on black holes and the origins of the universe has made him one of the best-known theoretical physicists of his generation. Author of the global best seller "A Brief History of Time," Hawking is known for proposing that space and time have no beginning and no end. Lately, he's been pondering about the fate of humans. In a June 13 speech in Hong Kong, Hawking said the survival of the human race depends on its ability to find new homes elsewhere in the universe because there's an increasing risk that a disaster will destroy Earth. He said that if humans can avoid killing themselves in the next 100 years, they should have space settlements that can continue without support from Earth. Hawking is one of 10 celebrity questioners Yahoo solicited as part of its "Ask The Planet" campaign. The Sunnyvale, Calif., Internet company spent weeks trying to track Hawking down but got his participation within a day of reaching the correct assistant, said Patrick Crane, vice president of marketing for Yahoo Search. The question was submitted a few days before the Hong Kong speech and posted this past Wednesday. Over the next week, Yahoo employees are expected to work with Hawking to sift through the answers and select one or several to highlight as best responses. Yahoo Answers, like an offering from Google Inc. and one planned by Microsoft Corp., is among the services aimed at tapping the collective intelligence. It's based on the premise that humans as a group can do a better job at finding information than machines or any single person can. Anyone can ask or answer a question, regardless of expertise, although Yahoo will eventually implement a rating system meant to elevate users with better reputations, based on their past questions and answers. Questions typically get 6 to 10 answers. Past celebrity participants include Donald Trump, Isaiah Washington, Al Gore and "Click & Clack," the hosts of NPR's "Car Talk." U2 lead singer Bono closed the celebrity series Friday by asking, "What can we do to make poverty history?" --- On the Net: Hawking's question: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid(equalsign)20060704195516AAnrdOD Bono's question: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid(equalsign)20060706201547AAy10c8&pa Hawking's site: http://www.hawking.org.uk __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Last edited by Spock : 07-09-2006 at 06:38 PM.

07-09-2006, 09:09 PM	#13
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Spock thanks for the info. It seems like a great idea. Maybe we can post a how do we solve Tolkien's unanswered questions thread there. Cheers, AE __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

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