Frogs

***Earniel*** · 09-15-2005, 03:31 PM

Well, I suppose most people could have guessed I'd make a thread like this some day.

But this article: Frog action plan to cost millions provided me with a good set-up.

Frogs are common on all populated continents, no mean feat. They're a very versatile sort of animal. Beside your common garden pool, they can be found from desert to thundra to rainforest.

Personally I am very fond of frogs and even did my last year's final report on their world-wide decline. So this is something I try to keep up with. And I'm rooting for any programme that wants to preserve frog-species. Not only because, as the article states, frogs are a warning system to environmental changes, but also because they are valuable for medical research (and yes, also ust because I love them bulgy-eyed buggers!).

Feel free to discuss.

Lotesse · 09-15-2005, 03:33 PM

Well, I'm not even supposed to still be online (WHAT a moot addict I am

) but I can't resist this thread because I LOVE FROGS so very, very much! I love frogs. Anyway...

Tens of millions of dollars a year is a drop in the bucket when one looks at how much friggin' government money is funneled into weapons research, wars, bomb-building, and other stuff like that. I'd happily pay more taxes to save frogs rather than to build bombs. Meh.

***RÃan*** · 09-15-2005, 04:25 PM

Interesting timing for this thread - I just read something last night about frogs! In my son's science book, it described how the Navajo (IIRC) Indians here in the US dissect sheep instead of frogs (usually frogs are dissected in high school biology class) because sheep are considered food animals and frogs aren't, and they would have to do some type of ceremony to restore balance if they killed a frog. And when they're done with the sheep, they make stew, etc. with it.

I'll look it up when he gets home.

What types of things do frogs provide to the environment? I don't know much about them.

The Gaffer · 09-15-2005, 04:32 PM

That's cool, Rian. Not strictly related, being about toads, but in the bulging file labelled "Brits, Quirky" you will find the following road sign:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/reallywi...ght_toads2.jpg

Coz at certain times of year the toads all get the horn and dive across the road to get it on in a mass orgy in their favourite pond.

***Earniel*** · 09-15-2005, 05:12 PM

That's an interesting tid-bit about the Navajo's, RÃ*an.

Thanks for sharing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

What types of things do frogs provide to the environment? I don't know much about them.

What exactly do you mean by 'provide'? In many cases they're prey animal for birds, bats, hedgehogs, and in some cases bigger frogs and other small predators. And frogs in turn prey on insects and small water-life. They're also a good indicator of healthy, clean water pools.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaffer

That's cool, Rian. Not strictly related, being about toads, but in the bulging file labelled "Brits, Quirky" you will find the following road sign:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/reallywi...ght_toads2.jpg

Coz at certain times of year the toads all get the horn and dive across the road to get it on in a mass orgy in their favourite pond.

Heheh, I've seen such a sign before! It is also posted here at roads where there are 'frog and toad crossings' organised. Back here it is usually around February, March when nature organisations dig in buckets next to busy roads. Each night they then collect all the amphibians that are fallen into the buckets, do an inventory and transport all the animals to the other side of the road.

The Gaffer · 09-15-2005, 05:26 PM

Heh. Meantime they've lost the urge.

They are cool, they can breathe through their skins. When I was a kid my dad dug a pond in the garden which I put frog spawn in. I loved watching them hatch out, grow legs and turn into frogs. Years (20+) later, there was still a big colony which kept all the slugs down in the gardens all around. Then my parents sold the house and the new owner filled in the pond because she hated frogs.

Lotesse · 09-15-2005, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaffer

Heh. Meantime they've lost the urge.

LOL!!

Lotesse · 09-16-2005, 09:51 PM

An incredibly tiny tree frog from Australia...
http://rainforest-australia.com/pics...20frog%202.JPG

...but not as tiny as the one from Madagascar...
http://www.terrachroma-inc.com/image...scar_lunch.jpg

and this adorable, delicate little guy with a tremendously funny name - Boophis viridis frog, at Andasibe Madagascar
http://images.wildmadagascar.org/pic...sibe_01502.jpg

They were pics, but I put them back as links so Earniel doesn't kill me for filling her thread up with too many pics...

Lotesse · 09-16-2005, 10:01 PM

Look at this really neat looking frog! This is small enough to be just one pic, maybe... Plus he's so interesting, and so cute.

***RÃan*** · 09-16-2005, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EÃ¤rniel

What exactly do you mean by 'provide'?

I meant how do they fit into the ecosytem? Which you answered

***KhamÃ»l*** · 09-17-2005, 12:27 AM

Speaking of frogs, look what I managed to find...

***Earniel*** · 09-19-2005, 12:29 PM

Oh yes, I was already wondering when that one would resurface...

The Gaffer · 09-19-2005, 12:35 PM

Cackle. We should have a caption competition for that one.

AndÃºril · 09-19-2005, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaffer

Cackle. We should have a caption competition for that one.

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7...2custom5ud.jpg

***Earniel*** · 09-19-2005, 12:56 PM

O.o

I'm not sure this is the direction I had in mind for this thread...

Elanor · 09-19-2005, 05:55 PM

M-mn went the little green frog one day,
M-mn went the little green frog,
M-mn went the little green frog one day,
And they all went M-mn-Ah!

But we all know frogs go (clap) ladidadida,
(clap) ladidadida,
(clap) ladidadida,
We all know frogs go (clap) ladidadida,
They don't go M-mn-Ah!

Beep-beep went the big green truck one day,
Squish-squash went the little green frog,
And the little green frog didn't go M-mn,
'Cause he couldn't go M-mn-Ah!

Sad, but fun! On "M" close your eyes, on "mn" stick out your tongue, and on "Ah!" open both your eyes and mouth very wide (still sticking out your tongue). On "ladidadida" wave your hands in the air in alternating directions. On "Beep-beep" mime honking a horn, and on "Squish-squash" make violent squishing motions.

The last sane person · 09-19-2005, 07:52 PM

AHahahaha, I certainly dont htink thats what Earnie had in mind for this thread!

But...I reallly ought to break out my camera! We have so many goofy lookin amphibians here on campus and in hawaii! REALLY GORGEOUS coloerd frogs...I think they are the poisonous ones though, so i dont want to touch...I take pictures for you.

Lotesse · 09-19-2005, 11:37 PM

Elanor, WHAT a cute little song!

Loved it!
Shah - Oh, YES, please do! Take pics, that is! I do love pics of animals. Earniel, would Hawaiian frogs be poisonous? I'm wondering...

***Earniel*** · 09-20-2005, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotesse

Earniel, would Hawaiian frogs be poisonous? I'm wondering...

I wouldn't know so I did a little search and apparently they have the cane toad (buffo marinus) over there which is rather poisonous. I also saw a coqui-frog mentioned and in my mind I always connect those to poison arrow frogs, but I couldn't verify so I could be wrong in that one.

But according to my info the Hawaiian frogs are especially loud.

Am looking forward to the picures, sane. I'll try and scan some of mine as well.

The Gaffer · 09-20-2005, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndÃºril

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7...2custom5ud.jpg

I was thinking more along the lines of

*Kisses Prince Charles *

"Isn't it supposed to work the other way around?"

09-15-2005, 03:31 PM	#1
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Frogs Well, I suppose most people could have guessed I'd make a thread like this some day. But this article: Frog action plan to cost millions provided me with a good set-up. Frogs are common on all populated continents, no mean feat. They're a very versatile sort of animal. Beside your common garden pool, they can be found from desert to thundra to rainforest. Personally I am very fond of frogs and even did my last year's final report on their world-wide decline. So this is something I try to keep up with. And I'm rooting for any programme that wants to preserve frog-species. Not only because, as the article states, frogs are a warning system to environmental changes, but also because they are valuable for medical research (and yes, also ust because I love them bulgy-eyed buggers!). Feel free to discuss. __________________ We are not things.

09-15-2005, 03:33 PM	#2
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Well, I'm not even supposed to still be online (WHAT a moot addict I am ) but I can't resist this thread because I LOVE FROGS so very, very much! I love frogs. Anyway... Tens of millions of dollars a year is a drop in the bucket when one looks at how much friggin' government money is funneled into weapons research, wars, bomb-building, and other stuff like that. I'd happily pay more taxes to save frogs rather than to build bombs. Meh. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Last edited by Lotesse : 09-15-2005 at 05:43 PM.

09-15-2005, 04:25 PM	#3
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Interesting timing for this thread - I just read something last night about frogs! In my son's science book, it described how the Navajo (IIRC) Indians here in the US dissect sheep instead of frogs (usually frogs are dissected in high school biology class) because sheep are considered food animals and frogs aren't, and they would have to do some type of ceremony to restore balance if they killed a frog. And when they're done with the sheep, they make stew, etc. with it. I'll look it up when he gets home. What types of things do frogs provide to the environment? I don't know much about them. __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

09-16-2005, 09:51 PM	#8
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	An incredibly tiny tree frog from Australia... http://rainforest-australia.com/pics...20frog%202.JPG ...but not as tiny as the one from Madagascar... http://www.terrachroma-inc.com/image...scar_lunch.jpg and this adorable, delicate little guy with a tremendously funny name - Boophis viridis frog, at Andasibe Madagascar http://images.wildmadagascar.org/pic...sibe_01502.jpg They were pics, but I put them back as links so Earniel doesn't kill me for filling her thread up with too many pics... __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Last edited by Lotesse : 09-17-2005 at 12:29 AM.

09-16-2005, 10:01 PM	#9
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Look at this really neat looking frog! This is small enough to be just one pic, maybe... Plus he's so interesting, and so cute. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Last edited by Lotesse : 09-17-2005 at 12:29 AM.

09-15-2005, 04:32 PM	#4
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	That's cool, Rian. Not strictly related, being about toads, but in the bulging file labelled "Brits, Quirky" you will find the following road sign: http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/reallywi...ght_toads2.jpg Coz at certain times of year the toads all get the horn and dive across the road to get it on in a mass orgy in their favourite pond.

09-15-2005, 05:26 PM	#6
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Heh. Meantime they've lost the urge. They are cool, they can breathe through their skins. When I was a kid my dad dug a pond in the garden which I put frog spawn in. I loved watching them hatch out, grow legs and turn into frogs. Years (20+) later, there was still a big colony which kept all the slugs down in the gardens all around. Then my parents sold the house and the new owner filled in the pond because she hated frogs.

09-17-2005, 12:27 AM	#11
*KhamÃ»l* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	Speaking of frogs, look what I managed to find... __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

09-19-2005, 12:29 PM	#12
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Oh yes, I was already wondering when that one would resurface... __________________ We are not things.

09-19-2005, 12:35 PM	#13
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Cackle. We should have a caption competition for that one.

09-19-2005, 12:56 PM	#15
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	O.o I'm not sure this is the direction I had in mind for this thread... __________________ We are not things.

09-19-2005, 05:55 PM	#16
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	M-mn went the little green frog one day, M-mn went the little green frog, M-mn went the little green frog one day, And they all went M-mn-Ah! But we all know frogs go (clap) ladidadida, (clap) ladidadida, (clap) ladidadida, We all know frogs go (clap) ladidadida, They don't go M-mn-Ah! Beep-beep went the big green truck one day, Squish-squash went the little green frog, And the little green frog didn't go M-mn, 'Cause he couldn't go M-mn-Ah! Sad, but fun! On "M" close your eyes, on "mn" stick out your tongue, and on "Ah!" open both your eyes and mouth very wide (still sticking out your tongue). On "ladidadida" wave your hands in the air in alternating directions. On "Beep-beep" mime honking a horn, and on "Squish-squash" make violent squishing motions. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

09-19-2005, 07:52 PM	#17
The last sane person The Black NÃºmenÃ³rean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	AHahahaha, I certainly dont htink thats what Earnie had in mind for this thread! But...I reallly ought to break out my camera! We have so many goofy lookin amphibians here on campus and in hawaii! REALLY GORGEOUS coloerd frogs...I think they are the poisonous ones though, so i dont want to touch...I take pictures for you. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

09-19-2005, 11:37 PM	#18
Lotesse of the House of FÃ«anor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Elanor, WHAT a cute little song! Loved it! Shah - Oh, YES, please do! Take pics, that is! I do love pics of animals. Earniel, would Hawaiian frogs be poisonous? I'm wondering... __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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