Tolkien's Realisticness

durinsbane2244 · 07-22-2005, 09:08 PM

I was just thinking how the good guy always wins and never gets taken to the dark side, blah blah blah. In the LotR, Tolkien had it so a good guy died(boromir), Frodo was corrupt at the end, and Gollum won, but ended up dying anyway by the fall. I love this, it's great! Comments?

mithrand1r · 07-22-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by durinsbane2244

I was just thinking how the good guy always wins and never gets taken to the dark side, blah blah blah. In the LotR, Tolkien had it so a good guy died(boromir), Frodo was corrupt at the end, and Gollum won, but ended up dying anyway by the fall. I love this, it's great! Comments?

That is one way to get the Reader's Digest version of LOTR.

1000+ pages reduced to a paragraph. Brilliant.

Tolkien also had a talent for being able to imply more behind the characters and scenes (than he wrote down on paper) in a way that gets the reader to be drawn into thinking that ME could actually be a real place.

rohirrim TR · 07-22-2005, 09:50 PM

Tolkien has a depth in his books that no book other than the bible can compete with and that is why they are so great and the death of boromir is one of the saddest and the best scenes there is in either book or film in fact it is probably one of the most acurate scenes in the film

brownjenkins · 07-23-2005, 01:02 AM

i think what tolkien realized, as other good writers do, that people appreciate sacrifice for a greater good more than they do the hero who just succeeds because he's the best... it sounds simple, but many authors fall into the trap of making their characters to idealized... tolkien made his characters real

07-22-2005, 09:08 PM	#1
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	Tolkien's Realisticness I was just thinking how the good guy always wins and never gets taken to the dark side, blah blah blah. In the LotR, Tolkien had it so a good guy died(boromir), Frodo was corrupt at the end, and Gollum won, but ended up dying anyway by the fall. I love this, it's great! Comments? __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-23-2005, 01:02 AM	#4
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	i think what tolkien realized, as other good writers do, that people appreciate sacrifice for a greater good more than they do the hero who just succeeds because he's the best... it sounds simple, but many authors fall into the trap of making their characters to idealized... tolkien made his characters real __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

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